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by ShatteredArm
Oct 14 2020 7:18 am
Forum: Rim to Rim
Topic: 430+ Doing R2R Last Saturday
Replies: 35
Views: 715

Re: 430+ Doing R2R Last Saturday

You seem to think that restricting corridor access will force people to hike other trails. In my opinion, it will not. Everyone is after their R2R merit badge. It won't force everybody to other trails, but it will force some people to other trails. You can't really paint R2R hikers with such a broa...
by ShatteredArm
Oct 13 2020 8:03 pm
Forum: Rim to Rim
Topic: 430+ Doing R2R Last Saturday
Replies: 35
Views: 715

Re: 430+ Doing R2R Last Saturday

@nonot I'm not sure why availability of bathroom facilities would make them limit traffic? There are only primitive toilets outside the corridor, and only in a few designated campsites. It's easier to increase the capacity of the facilities in the corridor than it is to, for example, pick up poop a...
by ShatteredArm
Oct 13 2020 5:43 pm
Forum: Rim to Rim
Topic: 430+ Doing R2R Last Saturday
Replies: 35
Views: 715

Re: 430+ Doing R2R Last Saturday

I think they're going to be hesitant to limit the numbers in any meaningful way, mainly because they'd rather have those people on the corridor trails than venturing out into other areas where it may not be so easy to rescue them. I honestly don't see the problem with the crowds on those particular ...
by ShatteredArm
Oct 07 2020 9:14 pm
Forum: Grand Canyon Forum
Topic: Nankoweap Drive, Starting Point, Etc.
Replies: 26
Views: 705

Re: Nankoweap Drive, Starting Point, Etc.

@nonot
I had Mystic Falls penciled in last year, but yeah, hard to find any intel on if it would actually be flowing. Seems especially doubtful this year.
by ShatteredArm
Oct 06 2020 7:40 pm
Forum: AZT Hiking
Topic: Passages 11 11b 12 status
Replies: 11
Views: 362

Re: Passages 11 11b 12 status

FWIW, the AZTA's Facebook page has a post dated September 21 stating that the trail is still closed from 0.4 miles east of Hutch's Pool to Campo Bonito Road. The "AZ Trail in a Day" event this weekend is also skipping everything from Hirabayashi to High Jinks Ranch with images that say "closed".
by ShatteredArm
Oct 06 2020 11:12 am
Forum: Grand Canyon Forum
Topic: Nankoweap Drive, Starting Point, Etc.
Replies: 26
Views: 705

Re: Nankoweap Drive, Starting Point, Etc.

Do you have any advice for the OP or is it your intent to simply troll my responses to the forum? I guess you didn't happen to read the thread before you chimed in. I did, in fact, provide the information I had that was not already readily available on the NPS guide. Congrats on your book, I guess....
by ShatteredArm
Oct 06 2020 5:02 am
Forum: Looking for a Hike
Topic: last minute change, looking for suggestions
Replies: 11
Views: 337

Re: last minute change, looking for suggestions

@chumley
Obviously cold water temperature is subjective... My point is if it ever made sense to do a backpacking trip in WCC a week and a half into October, this is the year to do it. If this week's forecast is a deterrent, I'd say the whole plan was extremely unrealistic from the very beginning.
by ShatteredArm
Oct 06 2020 4:42 am
Forum: Grand Canyon Forum
Topic: Nankoweap Drive, Starting Point, Etc.
Replies: 26
Views: 705

Re: Nankoweap Drive, Starting Point, Etc.

When you are leading a hike, base it on the least fit and experienced among the group. That includes water amounts and how fearful to be on a trail. I prefer advice to be objective, and not arbitrarily skewed based on who you may or may not be talking to. Advice like "6L of water minimum" could act...
by ShatteredArm
Oct 05 2020 9:29 pm
Forum: Grand Canyon Forum
Topic: Nankoweap Drive, Starting Point, Etc.
Replies: 26
Views: 705

Re: Nankoweap Drive, Starting Point, Etc.

@Canyonram About 11 miles of this trail is considered ‘exposed’—with inches in some places between you and the edge..... Be ready to relay backpacks across some of the exposure for the more skittish in your group. I think I might have hiked a different Nankoweap Trail, because I can’t think of one ...
by ShatteredArm
Oct 05 2020 9:21 pm
Forum: Looking for a Hike
Topic: last minute change, looking for suggestions
Replies: 11
Views: 337

Re: last minute change, looking for suggestions

@BRichard Temperatures are elevated through Friday, with Saturday just being the start of the cool down. There's still sunlight in that part of the canyon. Water temperatures won't just plummet overnight. You also won't be wet the better part of the day, there's just one or two swims, and very low ...
by ShatteredArm
Oct 05 2020 9:49 am
Forum: Looking for a Hike
Topic: last minute change, looking for suggestions
Replies: 11
Views: 337

Re: last minute change, looking for suggestions

I just did a long stretch of WCC yesterday, and the water was quite chilly early in the morning through the White Box, but down by the falls it was perfect.
by ShatteredArm
Oct 03 2020 12:51 pm
Forum: Fire & Area Closures
Topic: 2020 Fire Season
Replies: 71
Views: 4703

Re: 2020 Fire Season

I'm not going to pretend to understand how the highest was over 100% or how ~82% is actually 90%. Just go with it because #science. Based on the description, it looks like the scale on the y-axis is "BTU/sq ft" not %, but the question remains what those two lines labeled with percentage are percent...
by ShatteredArm
Oct 02 2020 6:51 pm
Forum: Grand Canyon Forum
Topic: Nankoweap Drive, Starting Point, Etc.
Replies: 26
Views: 705

Re: Nankoweap Drive, Starting Point, Etc.

I started from the north TH last October, and high clearance wasn't necessary. I'd recommend camping right where you drop into Nankoweap Creek; don't bother camping on the Colorado. There are at least 3-4 good campsites within a couple hundred yards of where the trail reaches Nankoweap Creek. There ...
by ShatteredArm
Sep 21 2020 7:41 pm
Forum: Trail Chat
Topic: Flagstaff Mt Elden / Dry Lake Hills Recreation Planning
Replies: 19
Views: 1123

Re: Flagstaff Mt Elden / Dry Lake Hills Recreation Planning

@velvetmesquite
I'm curious on the MSO reasoning... If that were the case, wouldn't they have closed it long ago? It has been on the mountain bike maps for years...
by ShatteredArm
Sep 17 2020 8:24 am
Forum: Trail Chat
Topic: Flagstaff Mt Elden / Dry Lake Hills Recreation Planning
Replies: 19
Views: 1123

Re: Flagstaff Mt Elden / Dry Lake Hills Recreation Planning

@Jim_H
As much as I liked it, I'm sure the reason they want to get rid of it is that it goes straight up the mountain with no switchbacks, and as such would be subject to erosion.
by ShatteredArm
Sep 16 2020 6:44 pm
Forum: Trail Chat
Topic: Flagstaff Mt Elden / Dry Lake Hills Recreation Planning
Replies: 19
Views: 1123

Re: Flagstaff Mt Elden / Dry Lake Hills Recreation Planning

@Jim_H
It's the trail that goes straight up the NW side of Mount Elden. It's steep and in the shade. Starts off of Oldham a little ways up from Brookbank.
by ShatteredArm
Sep 15 2020 9:30 pm
Forum: Trail Chat
Topic: Flagstaff Mt Elden / Dry Lake Hills Recreation Planning
Replies: 19
Views: 1123

Re: Flagstaff Mt Elden / Dry Lake Hills Recreation Planning

It looks like they're getting rid of more than they're adding. Not sure what they have against Private Reserve, that's one of my favorite trails on Elden...
by ShatteredArm
Sep 11 2020 8:37 pm
Forum: Grand Canyon Forum
Topic: Silver Bridge closure
Replies: 38
Views: 1289

Re: Silver Bridge closure

@Canyonram How am I guilty of speculation by stating that there is no evidence that HFS is the cause of the issue? Why are you finding it so hard imagine that the fragile and flimsy man-made structure placed within reach of a swollen Colorado River is not going to be impacted? You're speculating tha...
by ShatteredArm
Sep 11 2020 5:12 pm
Forum: Grand Canyon Forum
Topic: Silver Bridge closure
Replies: 38
Views: 1289

Re: Silver Bridge closure

@Canyonram 40 days of high flow is not a lot of time to further a process that normally takes millions of years. It kinda sounds like you read about erosion once and now you think everything happens because of erosion. It's speculative nonsense. And I guess it's reopened, so obviously you were wron...
by ShatteredArm
Sep 10 2020 5:07 pm
Forum: Grand Canyon Forum
Topic: Silver Bridge closure
Replies: 38
Views: 1289

Re: Silver Bridge closure

If the scouring were weakening the actual walls, wouldn't they have to close off the trail near the bridge as well? And yeah, 40 days of high flow doesn't seem like enough to alter something that took hundreds of millions of years to reach its current state naturally...

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