@discobob https://hikearizona.com/map.php?QX=6365 I just remember a broad leaved tree at the bottom, extremely steep but enough roots and/or brush for hand holds, a few seemingly gymnastic moves around cacti then we were on top without incident, hint of a use-trail for a short section Thanks. That ...

joebartels wrote:I've hiked straight up out of the immediate left where Meadow Canyon begins.

Could you by chance give me a GPS coordinate for where that route starts? Is it on the east or west rim of Meadow Canyon?

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True. I'd rather not get drowned in flash flood or struck by lightning, though. More importantly, I'd rather none of my boys does so.

I was planning on taking my small boy scout troop of three 14-to-15-year-olds to West Clear Creek for a 3-day backpacking trip next week, but it's looking like the weather's not going to cooperate. I know, shocker. I wanted to do this in June but it just wasn't in the cards, schedule-wise. The dates...

Welp, any ideas on a good place for a 2 night backpacking trip next week? I'm thinking Mt. Baldy looks nice. It will still probably be rainy, but at least no flash floods. Anyone know how hard it is to get a permit to the top on short notice?

ALMAL wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UEVoVl9zO4
Love the sound of the creek in this video...

Holy crap! Looking at the weather forecast it seems like it's just a bad idea to head into WCC next week. >50% chance of T-storms every day.

Are you planning to continue downstream past Hanging Gardens to exit at Bull Pen? Like chumley said, most of the canyon is fairly wide and you could get up and away from the creek in the event of a flood. But there are also a few more narrows sections below Hanging Gardens, and there are no establi...

I was planning on doing a backpacking trip through this section in a couple of weeks. Would that be a bad idea considering the recent fire just north of the canyon plus monsoon season? Would we be walking right into a potential flash flood?