@nonot
Thank you! I Have high clearance just not 4x4 ☺

Hmmmm I'm confused because on this site for directions to the trailhead from Peoria it directs me to go 618 to cedar flats. I did do a satellite follow along with the route and it checks out. But it does take you to the opposite side of the creek and the trail down is not described from that side.

Hi I am interested in hiking to the hanging gardens and was told the route on FR142 requires 4x4. So I was wondering how the drive of FR 618 to cedar flats is.....does it need 4x4? And then what is the trail like from that side? Thanks in advance for any help.