@hikeaz Far west and came up just west of Boynton Needle by the granary there. There was a faint social trail most of the way. Up on the mesa though it was hard to follow out to the Dreamspeaker, I'm used to being able to brute force where to go if I need to but there's no pushing through all that ...

@hikeaz
I have the same map but was trying to pick which side to approach from- west, middle, or east. When I plotted gps on Garmin the west looked a little less steep so I ended up taking the west... Man that ended up being a doozy of a climb! So steep

Planning a day trip to Sedona soon, plotting out a couple GPS courses mostly to ruins and stuff. One I was interested in is referred to as "Dreamspeaker ruins", it's very close to the Boynton Needle in Boynton Pass. Has anyone here been there? The ruins are up on a very large "ledge&q...

@Hansenaz
Haha that's great! I saw one of your other pics captioned that it was the only one you found up on the mesa, was the x rated not on skull mesa then?

@LosDosSloFolks Thanks!! So much to work with here. I do recall rumors of an x rated one on the mesa. The only x rated I've seen so far are 2 supposed panels at South Mountain (takes some imagination), and the one at Rarick Canyon but that's animals so not sure it counts. Ha I read through a lot of...

I went solo back in Dec 2023, and was able to locate the petros in the middle of the mesa on the way out to the fort/ruins. I'm going back very soon now. I believe there's others up there, can anyone give any hints which part of the mesa to look? I only found 1 spot in the middle of the mesa, so may...

It turns out my Landscape of the Spirits book also had found the glyph. They mislabeled it to the 24th street locality which is why I didn't find it when I checked all of their 32nd street drawings. I've found about 100 glyphs in the 32nd street area by now and I'm still missing at least 6 or 7 feat...

@Hansenaz
That is interesting! Good eye on your part and the image search.
I spent a few hrs skimming that thesis and overlaying maps and took my 7th or 8th shot at the 32nd street area and hit a jackpot I was looking for the last few weeks. Success!

@Hansenaz
I found his thesis and even found the figure of the same petro, listed as AZ T:12:339.4A. I can tell he listed them east to west and by area, gives me lots of targets to go look for!

@Hansenaz Ahh as I was looking that up, I saw he is also the author of Religion On The Rocks which I do own. That has very detailed maps but of only 3 localities of south mountain. I also have no idea what he was tagging, I have to assume artifacts and sherds and maybe more because he has way more ...

@wallyfrack
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I don't see it on the homepage anymore.
Forgot to mention I discovered some patterned pottery sherds at the base of the mountain nearby this area too, maybe a half mile away plus the vert

@Hansenaz I did try LinkedIn once and I recall I found some way to try contacting him I think but never heard back. I found a mistake in the book where one of the figures says it's in box canyon but it's really in beverly. Also noticed a couple places they renamed a locality and forgot to change it...

@big_load
I've only heard of these petros in stories, and I'm only holding these pictures for a friend. No, I don't even know his name.

@Hansenaz I've found about 700 of them at South Mountain so far. Landscape of the Spirits features around 240 panels with a hand drawn, numbered figure. I've found around 130 of them. The one I found the other day didn't match any of them which I found strange given every other panel of that qualit...

This is the best book I've come across about the petroglyphs and other history of South Mountain. Does anyone know how to reach the author or photographer? Todd Bostwick and Peter Krocek. They have very little online presence. I found a pretty nice panel I think they may have missed, impressive enou...

@xsproutx You mean that would be on the knowledgeable employee who was supposed to be helping me, right? Anyways, here is a plain old sack for 170 dollars. https://www.rei.com/product/124165/ursack-allmitey-bear-and-critter-sack-10-liters They have stools for 60 dollars. Etc. I could go on and on. ...

@xsproutx I dunno man I stopped over there and asked about a bear bag and REI rep told me the one they had was 200+ dollars. It's a bag and a rope, how much quality do ya need? So I got one off Amazon for 19 bucks instead Similarly got a puffy blanket for 70 off Amazon, REI's were all heavier and a...

I was getting REI gift cards from family members for bday/holidays for a few years but now I've almost run out of anything reasonable to buy. Stopped over before a recent backpacking trip to check out a few items and everything was 5-10x what I wanted to spend. Fiddled with it, set it down, and left...

Any idea how big the ticket is for getting caught? South mountain is really big, and I'm pretty fast... Seems like an enforcement problem.

The only one I've ever seen was out the window of the restaurant at Marriott Phoenix resort, well away from south mountain, and it definitely had the orange tail