Death by Snake

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Death by Snake

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Originally titled "Death by Mohave", updated to snake in light of new info
I have a question. A man at my husband's work was bitten by a Mojave Green Rattlesnake. Apparently he pulled off the road near Fontana (Lytle Creek area) to use his cell phone. He stepped out of his work van right onto a snake. The snake bit him twice on the leg. It took him about 10 minutes to flag down another motorist. He drove himself to the hospital and the other motorist followed to assure he got there safely. The doctor believed the snake bite to be that of a Mojave Rattlesnake due to the speed that the neurotoxin attacked. The doctor said that he'd never seen venom attack in the manner that it did. At some point after he reached the hospital, he had a heart attack (he is approx 48 to 50 years of age and he'd already had another heart attack a few years earlier). He was given the antivenom and it is speculated that he had an adverse reaction to it. I don't know all the specifics, but he ended up going into respiratory failure and being put on life support. He must have had irreparable damage with no hope because he was removed from life support a day or so later and he died.

Would it have helped if he had tied his leg above the bite to stop the travel of the venom through his bloodstream? Is there any more specific or immediate first aid that can be administered for a Mojave Rattlesnake bite. From what I have read, there doesn't seem to be a lot that can be done except to stay calm, treat for shock and seek medical help.

My husband as well as several at his work are in shock. This was sudden and unexpected. The general consensus is that one shouldn't die from a snake bite. They are trying to find answers and understand what happened.

I don't mind if this message is posted or if the answer shows up in a public area...

Hi Lisa,

My initial thought is he did everything correct. Sounds like he was just one of the small percentages to not accept the venom. Tag in his previous heart issues & it's sad but I don't believe it's a mystery or unbelievable.

My second thought is Rattlers don't usually bite unless provoked. Stepping on one out of a truck is flat out bad luck. I believe the snake needs to coil first. As he drove up the snake probably coiled and when he stepped out it was just unfortunate. Either that snake lost his rattler in a species fight or the man's window was up and he had no forewarning.

It's unfortunate he encountered that mean monster. They are the deadliest! I've seen countless diamondbacks but only a few mohaves. Personally, I've stepped on a Diamondback & was extremely lucky. It was crossing a trail after sunset. I didn't see it and figure it must not have expected me. My friend was behind me and yelled. I jumped and ran before the snake had a chance to coil.

I'll add this to the HAZ-Forum. My thoughts go out to his family & co-workers.
Last edited by joebartels on May 21 2003 9:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post by jimserio »

I've been under the impression that when a snake rattles, what it really wants is for you to move away, not necessarily to strike. Is this accurate?
I believe this is correct. The snake is alerting you to its presence so that you can make distance.

As many have said here, most snakes feel your presence a long distance away and head out of Dodge well before you get there. I wonder just how many snakes we've missed this way. Like most (non Yosemite-garbage) bears... you're fortunate enough if you see one (not rear).

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Post by azhiker96 »

Rattlesnakes evolved sharing the habitat with large hooved animals such as bison, elk, and deer. The rattle is a way to avoid death by being stepped upon. The poison is just a way to make it easier to get a meal. It serves no purpose for the snake to use it's poison on something that is too large to eat. That's why there are many "dry" bites where the snake choses to strike but not inject it's venom. In 3 years of hiking I've seen 4 rattlesnakes. Only one buzzed at me and that was because I surprised him by jogging down his trail. If you are not moving quickly they may never buzz. In fact, two of the snakes I had to point out to my companions because they were not moving or making noise even though one was 12 feet off trail and the other just about 6 feet from being stepped upon. If you watch the trail and enjoy the hike I think you'll be fine.
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