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JimGuides: 73 | Official Routes: 36Triplogs Last: 7 d | RS: 67Water Reports 1Y: 10 | Last: 143 d
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The endless chatter of weather.
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chumleyGuides: 94 | Official Routes: 241Triplogs Last: 6 d | RS: 65Water Reports 1Y: 78 | Last: 8 d
- Joined: Sep 18 2002 8:59 am
- City, State: Tempe, AZ
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JasonCleghornGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 4Triplogs Last: 833 d | RS: 8Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 833 d
- Joined: Nov 11 2014 1:03 pm
- City, State: Manchester, NH
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Re: El Niño's revenge.
Yeah, that ain't good...chumley wrote:
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"It's not the mountains that we conquer, but ourselves"
"It's not the mountains that we conquer, but ourselves"
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The_DudeGuides: 1 | Official Routes: 10Triplogs Last: 561 d | RS: 22Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 1,694 d
- Joined: Jun 10 2011 11:19 am
- City, State: Phoenix, AZ
Re: El Niño's revenge.
I think this El Nino guy needs to check his data. Either that or our weather reporters have gone the same way of the 24 hour news cycle... :STP:
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chumleyGuides: 94 | Official Routes: 241Triplogs Last: 6 d | RS: 65Water Reports 1Y: 78 | Last: 8 d
- Joined: Sep 18 2002 8:59 am
- City, State: Tempe, AZ
Re: El Niño's revenge.
Funniest thing I've read in a while. From NWS Tucson. Emphasis mine.

If you can believe it, we've actually got some non-zero rain chances in the forecast Thursday evening into Friday!

I'm not sure what my spirit animal is, but I'm confident it has rabies.
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big_loadGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 1Triplogs Last: 595 d | RS: 3Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 2,484 d
- Joined: Oct 28 2003 11:20 am
- City, State: Andover, NJ
Re: El Niño's revenge.
Winter has returned to NJ. We had snow on Sunday and Monday (washed out by subsequent rain). Temps tonight will be in the teens, and snow is predicted again on Saturday. I wouldn't mind being in Tucson right now.
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JimGuides: 73 | Official Routes: 36Triplogs Last: 7 d | RS: 67Water Reports 1Y: 10 | Last: 143 d
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Re: El Niño's revenge.
Yes, the models do show some promising QPF for the next 120 and 168 hours. The models may be less and less accurate as we progress thru April and May, but this might be the first real rain in months, for us and southern California, too. They had some last month, anything for us is probably good, at this point.
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johnlpGuides: 1 | Official Routes: 5Triplogs Last: 5 d | RS: 2Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 1,743 d
- Joined: Mar 16 2008 7:12 pm
- City, State: chandler,az
Re: El Niño's revenge.
Life was so much simpler when it didn't rain.
“Good people drink good beer.” Hunter S Thompson
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chumleyGuides: 94 | Official Routes: 241Triplogs Last: 6 d | RS: 65Water Reports 1Y: 78 | Last: 8 d
- Joined: Sep 18 2002 8:59 am
- City, State: Tempe, AZ
Re: El Niño's revenge.
@johnlp
I purposely did laundry and hung it outside tonight. Then I went for a bike ride. I did my part! Only got a few drops on the bike and rescued the clothes before they got wet again. Tomorrow I'm gonna take my truck to get washed!
I purposely did laundry and hung it outside tonight. Then I went for a bike ride. I did my part! Only got a few drops on the bike and rescued the clothes before they got wet again. Tomorrow I'm gonna take my truck to get washed!

I'm not sure what my spirit animal is, but I'm confident it has rabies.
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arizona_waterGuides: 9 | Official Routes: 7Triplogs Last: 2,142 d | RS: 1Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 2,339 d
- Joined: Mar 06 2016 2:02 am
- City, State: Salt River Valley
Re: El Niño's revenge.
From a statewide perspective, precipitation is more critical for Lower Colorado River Basin Supply than to wildfire suppression. Of course these two things are not mutually exclusive, but supply affects all of us in AZ - every single day.
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chumleyGuides: 94 | Official Routes: 241Triplogs Last: 6 d | RS: 65Water Reports 1Y: 78 | Last: 8 d
- Joined: Sep 18 2002 8:59 am
- City, State: Tempe, AZ
Re: El Niño's revenge.
@arizona_water
Interesting. What is considered to be lower Colorado?
I'll defer to you as the water guy, but what hits the Colorado below Lake Havasu/CAP can't feed much of Arizona besides Yuma?
Wildfire suppression is an added bonus, but I've always thought that rain/snow over the watersheds feeding the Verde/Salt/Gila Rivers are most important for the population centers in Arizona.
Not my area of expertise though...I'd love to learn more about AZ hydrology!
Interesting. What is considered to be lower Colorado?
I'll defer to you as the water guy, but what hits the Colorado below Lake Havasu/CAP can't feed much of Arizona besides Yuma?
Wildfire suppression is an added bonus, but I've always thought that rain/snow over the watersheds feeding the Verde/Salt/Gila Rivers are most important for the population centers in Arizona.
Not my area of expertise though...I'd love to learn more about AZ hydrology!
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RedRoxx44Guides: 5 | Official Routes: 0Triplogs Last: 7 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 6,293 d
- Joined: Feb 15 2003 8:07 am
- City, State: outside, anywhere
Re: El Niño's revenge.
Had some rain last night and a nice odour to the desert this morning
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johnlpGuides: 1 | Official Routes: 5Triplogs Last: 5 d | RS: 2Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 1,743 d
- Joined: Mar 16 2008 7:12 pm
- City, State: chandler,az
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FOTGGuides: 37 | Official Routes: 103Triplogs Last: 15 d | RS: 190Water Reports 1Y: 50 | Last: 7 d
- Joined: Jan 21 2013 10:47 am
- City, State: AZ
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Re: El Niño's revenge.
@chumley
I also took matters into my own hand and watered the front lawn last night. I am going to up the anty tonight though and park outside of the garage with my windows down ;)
I also took matters into my own hand and watered the front lawn last night. I am going to up the anty tonight though and park outside of the garage with my windows down ;)
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rwstormGuides: 1 | Official Routes: 12Triplogs Last: 376 d | RS: 1Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 2,590 d
- Joined: Feb 28 2003 5:45 pm
- City, State: Tucson, AZ
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Re: El Niño's revenge.
.34 inch SW Tucson overnight (from 8 PM to 1 AM). Wonderful. 

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azbackpackrGuides: 27 | Official Routes: 23Triplogs Last: 78 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 771 d
- Joined: Jan 21 2006 6:46 am
- City, State: Eagar AZ
Re: El Niño's revenge.
@chumley
If I may: The Lower Colorado River basin is supplied largely by the snow in the Rockies, via the Green and Colorado River, and the San Juan River, and other tributaries. The Lower Colorado River officially begins at Lees Ferry. So, even though the snowmelt is mostly from Colorado and Wyoming, and some from New Mexico, there is a certain amount allotted to the Lower Basin states, which are Arizona, Nevada and California.
Here is info about the Colorado River Compact of 1922, and more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_River_Compact
http://www.usbr.gov/lc/region/g1000/lawofrvr.html
If I may: The Lower Colorado River basin is supplied largely by the snow in the Rockies, via the Green and Colorado River, and the San Juan River, and other tributaries. The Lower Colorado River officially begins at Lees Ferry. So, even though the snowmelt is mostly from Colorado and Wyoming, and some from New Mexico, there is a certain amount allotted to the Lower Basin states, which are Arizona, Nevada and California.
Here is info about the Colorado River Compact of 1922, and more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_River_Compact
http://www.usbr.gov/lc/region/g1000/lawofrvr.html
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JimGuides: 73 | Official Routes: 36Triplogs Last: 7 d | RS: 67Water Reports 1Y: 10 | Last: 143 d
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Re: El Niño's revenge.
And if one looks at the map of the snowpack produced by the Bureau of Reclamation, the San Juan Basin is well below the median or mean for this date, so this storm series may help bring up some of the seasonal totals in places that were drier this winter. That includes southern California, and the southern and central Sierra Nevada. The Salt-Verde-Gila Rivers are also Lower Colorado tributaries, and so more precipitation in Arizona is helpful for local reservoirs.
A sampling of official and rainlog reported totals I noticed:
NWS Phoenix Sky Harbor reports 1/4 of an inch (0.25")
PIMA Flood Control, Mount Lemmon recorded 0.83", but a station near the WoR had 0.31"
Rainlog, someone near Glendale and 16th ST reports 0.75"
Most reporting places were around 0.15 to .3" in the desert.
A sampling of official and rainlog reported totals I noticed:
NWS Phoenix Sky Harbor reports 1/4 of an inch (0.25")
PIMA Flood Control, Mount Lemmon recorded 0.83", but a station near the WoR had 0.31"
Rainlog, someone near Glendale and 16th ST reports 0.75"
Most reporting places were around 0.15 to .3" in the desert.
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tibberGuides: 21 | Official Routes: 51Triplogs Last: 47 d | RS: 532Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 781 d
- Joined: Feb 26 2004 1:27 pm
- City, State: Phoenix, AZ
Re: El Niño's revenge.

Update: slightly more than an inch for the weekend.
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For me, sometimes it's just as much about the journey as the destination.
Oh, and once in awhile, don't forget to look back at the trail you've traveled.
Oh, and once in awhile, don't forget to look back at the trail you've traveled.
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chumleyGuides: 94 | Official Routes: 241Triplogs Last: 6 d | RS: 65Water Reports 1Y: 78 | Last: 8 d
- Joined: Sep 18 2002 8:59 am
- City, State: Tempe, AZ
Re: El Niño's revenge.
.59 at my house. Much more than expected. Looks like a small area east of downtown into Tempe and south Scottsdale got a nice band of steady rain from 10-1 or so last night. Much lower amounts in other parts of the valley.
I'm not sure what my spirit animal is, but I'm confident it has rabies.
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FOTGGuides: 37 | Official Routes: 103Triplogs Last: 15 d | RS: 190Water Reports 1Y: 50 | Last: 7 d
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Re: El Niño's revenge.
@chumley
Got any totals for the mountains? Mazzys, Supes, Ancha...
Got any totals for the mountains? Mazzys, Supes, Ancha...
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chumleyGuides: 94 | Official Routes: 241Triplogs Last: 6 d | RS: 65Water Reports 1Y: 78 | Last: 8 d
- Joined: Sep 18 2002 8:59 am
- City, State: Tempe, AZ
Re: El Niño's revenge.
@friendofThundergod
All less than my backyard.
Mountains south of Tucson look like they got set up in a nice rain band last night too though. I don't think there's anywhere in AZ that got even 1"
All less than my backyard.
Mountains south of Tucson look like they got set up in a nice rain band last night too though. I don't think there's anywhere in AZ that got even 1"
I'm not sure what my spirit animal is, but I'm confident it has rabies.
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