Snake bite last night - Watch your kids.

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Snake bite last night - Watch your kids.

Post by burntlizard » Mar 23 2012 4:56 pm

A 5 year old girl received a bite from a Rattlesnake last night. This happened around I-17 and Carefree Hwy.

Watch you little ones while hiking.

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Post by WilliamnWendi » Mar 23 2012 5:08 pm

I heard about this on kjzz. I am glad she is doing good.
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Post by Alston_Neal » Mar 26 2012 10:25 am

We saw a very healthy, although slow rattler right next to the main Spur Cross trail Sunday.
I always worry about kids and dogs here cuz so many folks are oblivious and think it's Disneyland.
One family who were definately not from around here asked..What do we do if we run into one?
Uh, leave it alone and go around it?
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Post by big_load » Mar 26 2012 11:30 am

I saw the first snake of the year in NJ in February. It was a freakishly warm winter. I don't usually see Timber Rattlesnakes or Copperheads until mid-May.

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Post by azbackpackr » Mar 26 2012 2:18 pm

In Costa Rica the fer-de-lance is far more dangerous, poisonous and aggressive than our rattlesnakes. I am told you have four hours to get yourself to treatment with the anti-venin, or you will die. That may be some hyperbole, but I did read up on it a bit, and it seems it is a pit viper, similar to a rattlesnake, but with deadlier venom.
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Post by Alston_Neal » Mar 26 2012 2:48 pm

Holy snickers I will take a noise making rattler any day.
Btw, I went to wikipedia for your Bothrops asper aka the "ultimate pit viper" to read up on it.
I chose not to link the snake victim photo they had...... :o :o :sk:
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Post by outdoor_lover » Mar 26 2012 3:05 pm

@azbackpackr
It probably uses a neurotoxin as the main makeup of it's venom. That's why some of the non U.S. Vipers are among the most dangerous and deadly in the world. It works as a paralytic, thus breathing and heart can stop within hours of being bitten, depending on the size of the person and how much venom is delivered. There are only two snakes in AZ that have this type of venom. The Coral Snake, which is small by viper standards and does not deliver nearly the amount of venom as some of the other world's vipers do, and the Mohave Rattlesnake, which can be confused with the Western Diamondback. It is the deadliest rattlesnake you will encounter in AZ, as it carries both the more familiar toxin of most of the other Rattlesnakes in the Southwest, but also the neurotoxin that causes paralysis. And can deliver a very unhealthy dose....
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Post by azbackpackr » Mar 26 2012 4:57 pm

Alston Neal wrote:Holy snickers I will take a noise making rattler any day.
Btw, I went to wikipedia for your Bothrops asper aka the "ultimate pit viper" to read up on it.
I chose not to link the snake victim photo they had...... :o :o :sk:
But now that everyone is dying of curiosity, you can look if you want to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bothrops_a ... C.26L04-15

The landscapes, trees, etc. in Costa Rica often remind me of Hawaii, where I lived for 8 years. But in Hawaii you never have to watch out for snakes, because there aren't any!
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Post by Sun_Ray » Mar 26 2012 6:59 pm

Just looked at pic on website above...OMG :scared:
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Post by base871 » Apr 03 2012 12:33 am

That looks like it stings a bit.....
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Post by kingsnake » Apr 03 2012 5:57 am

Deadly, inbred -- never a good combination as "Deliverance" taught us -- and one of them every square meter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilha_da_Queimada_Grande
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Post by gummo » Apr 03 2012 7:54 am

azbackpackr wrote:
Alston Neal wrote:Holy snickers I will take a noise making rattler any day.
Btw, I went to wikipedia for your Bothrops asper aka the "ultimate pit viper" to read up on it.
I chose not to link the snake victim photo they had...... :o :o :sk:
But now that everyone is dying of curiosity, you can look if you want to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bothrops_a ... C.26L04-15

The landscapes, trees, etc. in Costa Rica often remind me of Hawaii, where I lived for 8 years. But in Hawaii you never have to watch out for snakes, because there aren't any!
Hawaii has blind snakes (an invasive species that appears not to be harmful to the ecosystem) and will occasionally will get sea snakes, but sea snakes sightings are very rare and not a stable population exists.

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Post by kingsnake » Apr 03 2012 10:00 am

But wait! It get's scarier! I present the Titanoboa, a snake that could swallow alligators. (Without bursting, unlike that famous Florida golf course photo ...)

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Post by chumley » Apr 03 2012 10:39 am

OK, now you're moving back into the invasive species thread. I still think that any snake that can eat a deer is no friend of mine.
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Post by Alston_Neal » Apr 03 2012 11:11 am

My wife and I were talking about rattlers the other night and realized that even though we're seeing them on our hikes, we've seen more at Spur Cross than average.
Is it just a perfect little ecology for them?
Or with the explosive growth in North Scotts. and Cavecreek/Carefree the snake and pest control folks are moving them not that far out.
Afterall with the price of gas being what it is and time is money, just how far away are these people relocating the snakes?
Looking at G.E. at the amount of desert being built upon and figuring out how many rattlers per square mile there are, that would be a huge amount of rattlers moved just to the edge of current growth.
Btw, the great mural at Spur Cross on the parks building has no rattlers on it....hmmmmm....curious.
I would of put at least 3 in the mural as a wake call to folks not familiar with the what the desert has.
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Post by big_load » Apr 03 2012 11:46 am

chumley wrote: I still think that any snake that can eat a deer is no friend of mine.
It depends how bad your deer infestation is. I'm still trying to convince the bears to eat deer, but they seem to prefer grubs and raspberries, with a can of garbage whenever they can get one.

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Post by outdoor_lover » May 14 2012 5:17 pm

Just when you thought it was safe to be indoors.....

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Post by chumley » May 14 2012 7:28 pm

Stupid people aren't safe anywhere.
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Post by JoelHazelton » May 15 2012 9:09 am

He thought it was a stick???
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Post by CannondaleKid » May 15 2012 9:40 am

A vibrating stick :whistle:
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