Atmosphere Comparison

Jim · Post by **Jim** » May 15 2009 8:25 pm

The endless chatter of weather.

chumley · Post by **chumley** » Oct 09 2011 7:32 pm

big_load wrote:
chumley wrote:I was talking about the ski area.
It's not so much a ski area as a snowy cliff.

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Oct 10 2011 7:29 pm

I did the lower half of Black Mesa and could see the San Juans. Both the highest peaks of the Wilson Group, others?, and the La Platas all had snow on them. Very pretty hiking down while the snow turned pink, as seen from over 100 miles away. The Abajos had a little snow on them, too. I wonder if the snow looked prettier as it was seen with a setting sun and through pollution from the coal plants in Ship Rock?

Trishness · Post by **Trishness** » Oct 11 2011 7:12 pm

chumley wrote:But Silverton is epic. I wouldn't want it to be any bigger than it is. In fact, I'm pretty happy that almost nobody knows it exists.

I agree! Love Silverton.

Alston_Neal · Post by **Alston_Neal** » Oct 12 2011 10:44 am

Xs 2 on Silverton, my wife and I love it, especially after camping a week or so and then going in and pigging out.
My family was from Creede/Wagon Wheel Gap. As a kid I got to spend part of my summer there. A truly great time...

chumley · Post by **chumley** » Oct 12 2011 1:10 pm

Urghh. It's hot.

I liked last week better.

Alston_Neal · Post by **Alston_Neal** » Oct 12 2011 1:29 pm

Well the mornings are still nice and it ain't June.
Got the old evap going last week so at least the house is open.

azbackpackr · Post by **azbackpackr** » Oct 12 2011 3:11 pm

I always liked swamp coolers for that reason, you can leave the screen door open, etc. Sure, they don't work well during monsoon, but they do save on electric bill if you have one as a backup. In Tucson that's all we had, though, and it was usually fine. I don't like a really cold house, anyway.

PaleoRob · Post by **PaleoRob** » Oct 12 2011 4:16 pm

Got burnt on my backpack yesterday, and sitting out in the sun all day today hasn't helped any. Called it early to head in to the campsite and get ready for tomorrow. Warm here in St. George.

outdoor_lover · Post by **outdoor_lover** » Oct 12 2011 4:53 pm

chumley wrote:Urghh. It's hot. I liked last week better.

Ya, great, now they're saying triple digits again by the weekend, unbelievable.... :yuck:

azbackpackr · Post by **azbackpackr** » Oct 12 2011 7:06 pm

Outdoor Lover wrote:
chumley wrote:Urghh. It's hot. I liked last week better.
Ya, great, now they're saying triple digits again by the weekend, unbelievable.... :yuck:

Yes, well, this is also the best time of year to hike in Payson, the White Mtns., Flagstaff, Prescott, etc. Dry, warm, fall weather. Absolutely great up here in Flag! I don't have time to hike, however. Sigh... Another 10 days I will be done with some of this work, so can hopefully get back to hiking daily.

PaleoRob · Post by **PaleoRob** » Oct 13 2011 6:58 am

Supposed to be 89 today in St. George. I feel like it is summer all over again!

Alston_Neal · Post by **Alston_Neal** » Oct 13 2011 10:33 am

The Mrs. and I want to hike Bismark Lake to the ski area Sunday.
How are the aspens up there?

azbackpackr · Post by **azbackpackr** » Oct 13 2011 10:58 am

Alston Neal wrote:The Mrs. and I want to hike Bismark Lake to the ski area Sunday.
How are the aspens up there?

I have no idea. I have been too busy with homework since my Grand Canyon trip. I will be going up 89 today, though, and will be able to have plenty of glimpses up the sides of the mountain. So, I will try to get back with you as to what i can see from 89.

The road to Lockett Meadow apparently has reopened in the last couple of days.

Alston_Neal · Post by **Alston_Neal** » Oct 13 2011 11:13 am

azbackpackr wrote:The road to Lockett Meadow apparently has reopened in the last couple of days.

Yeah I read that but we'll be taking our dog and isn't that closed to dogs?

chumley · Post by **chumley** » Oct 13 2011 11:57 am

Alston Neal wrote:
azbackpackr wrote:The road to Lockett Meadow apparently has reopened in the last couple of days.
Yeah I read that but we'll be taking our dog and isn't that closed to dogs?

Is that a new thing? I've taken my dog on hikes in Lockett Meadow and the Inner Basin before!

I found a photo of the sign that says keep dogs on leash, so... http://hikearizona.com/photo.php?ZIP=29097
And Kai having a blast! http://hikearizona.com/photo.php?ZIP=11940

hippiepunkpirate · Post by **hippiepunkpirate** » Oct 13 2011 12:01 pm

Inner Basin is totally open to dogs...it's not on park service land or anything.

chumley · Post by **chumley** » Oct 13 2011 12:08 pm

A little research: CNF has a forest order limiting the use of domestic livestock (AKA horses) in Lockett Meadow and the Inner Basin. It was enacted in 1991. Some references on the website also say "pets" are prohibited, but the actual order does not.

The web page for the Inner Basin Trail also says

The inner basin is closed to dogs and livestock above the watershed cabin.

but that is also NOT reflected in the forest order.
The web page for Lockett Meadow Campground says that pets must be restrained or on a leash.

So you are at least permitted to have your dog up to the watershed cabin, and I would say it is a gray area at best as to whether it is officially prohibited above the cabin.

Alston_Neal · Post by **Alston_Neal** » Oct 13 2011 12:23 pm

Thanks folks for kinda clearing that up.
I knew somewhere back in the deep recesses of my brain that it was closed because of it being a water source.
But with my luck I'd be the first to be arrested and charged.

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Oct 13 2011 6:34 pm

I would see dogs up there a lot. I think you can bring them and just pick up after them.

Trishness · Post by **Trishness** » Oct 13 2011 6:40 pm

Any color on the Mogollan Rim yet? I'm planning on going in two weeks for my annual "fall color" hike............

Trish

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