Atmosphere Comparison

[Jim]

The endless chatter of weather.

[dysfunction]

locals we knew, none of whom had ever left Hawaii, some having never left the Big Island...

Doesn't surprise me, some of my friends there think 30miles is an amazingly long way to travel Course, much of my wifes family hasn't left Hilo so..

For that matter, San Francisco and Sacramento are not in 'northern California' either

As someone who grew up just south of San Francisco, I disagree with that statement. First, I have no desire to be associated with anything to do with typical southern California (LA). Second of all, drawing a line halfway across California will end up with Suckramento and SF just north of that dividing line.

And that's exactly why people from San Fran like to be "Northern California".. then again.. many folk from Paradise, Ft Brag etc.. don't want to be associated with San Fran either

[chumley]

In a late development ... NWS has issued a Snow Advisory for Flagstaff and areas north and west. Calling now for 8-10" above 7500 feet. Point forecast for 10,000 feet on the peaks calls for 11-19". Could this be one of those "surprises" that dumps 2+ feet on the mountain? I hope so!

[azbackpackr]

That would be fun, but it doesn't sound like my area is going to get much. I am sure there are bare spots in the ski trails at Pole Knoll after today's sunshine, because when I went up there a couple of days ago there were some very thin areas. We need it to snow three feet or more up there like it did 2 years ago. That snow formed a base, and it was a great winter for xc skiing!

[Jim]

Oooo, I hope not, I'm flying to the far east tomorrow.

[azbackpackr]

Ooh, where are you going? Sounds interesting!

[big_load]

This is what 90% of the people I talk to in various areas of the state have to say about other areas:

Those were pretty funny and all too typical. The non-outdoors people in AZ seem oblivious to the wondrous variety of places to go and things to see. Most AZ folks I talk to don't recognize the names of any of the ranges I've hiked in, except maybe the Superstitions. I'm not talking about transplants, either, but real life-long residents.

[Jim]

Ooh, where are you going? Sounds interesting!

It's not. NJ.

[big_load]

The AT should be good hiking this week, but I'd bring traction aids.

[azbackpackr]

I think this is a common syndrome. I have a friend who lived in Reedsport OR for a few years. She says it's on a bay, about 5 miles from the ocean. She knew people who had never been to the beach. Go figger...

On the other hand, the reason so many of the outdoor areas near cities are crowded is because there are legions of folks wanting to have some kind of recreation on the weekend. So it's a good thing there are still legions more who never recreate outside!

[Sredfield]

So it's a good thing there are still legions more who never recreate outside!

Amen! Everyone of those folks crawling the mall is one less potential intruder on "my" trails.

[azbackpackr]

Amen, brother, Hallelujah! ;)

Forecast is specific today: Snow above 7200, rain below. My house sits at 7100, so we may get any combination of snow, sleet, rain, slush, etc. Right now, however, when I went out to get firewood in the backyard, it was very beautiful, with a sliver of moon, a sprinkling of stars. The neighbors' roosters crowing, a very slight breeze. To the east, a hint of dawn, with reddish high clouds. "Red sun in the morning, sailors take warning..."

[PaleoRob]

Wind like crazy, rain, and hail up here.

[Jim]

With a light dusting of snow in Flagstaff, US Airways has canceled my FLG to PHX flight. I guess they must cancel all flights when a light dusting of snow impacts their airports, like Chicago, Philadelphia, Newark, Boston, Albany, Denver, and so on. What a lousy airline, it's not even an inch.

[trekkin_gecko]

i heard that whoever shovels the snow at the flagstaff airport didn't make a wide enough path on the runway. it has to be 150 feet. i work for an air cargo company and our feeder flight to FLG was canceled yesterday. we had to truck everything.
that may or may not have something to do with it, although you would think it would be fixed by now. anything in the news about that?

[Jim]

They canceled my flight, even though the snow stopped and what we had from 10am up to my 12:25 pm departure time didn't do more than put a dusting on car tops. It didn't stick on the bare pavement in my complex 2 miles from the airport. The next 2 flights today out of Flag are listed as on time on the US Airways website. Not too long ago, I heard a plane either landing or taking off from the airport.

[azbackpackr]

It never happened! I don't believe you! Yesterday it was sunny here all day, but cold and windy. I went to a party in the early afternoon. Two of the couples who showed up live over between Snowflake and Concho, and left early because there was a huge cloud bank hovering up on the mountainous horizon to the west, toward Green's Peak. I guess it got that far, anyway. Today when I go to the bus barn I can find out if Show Low got any snow. Maybe also Erock will let us know. Or I can email those people from the party, also.

330 a.m. right now, no wind, cold, stars are out. I walk to work, so I won't worry about scraping the ice off the windshield.

[chumley]

In a late development ... NWS has issued a Snow Advisory for Flagstaff and areas north and west. Calling now for 8-10" above 7500 feet. Point forecast for 10,000 feet on the peaks calls for 11-19". Could this be one of those "surprises" that dumps 2+ feet on the mountain? I hope so!

No. It was one of those "surprises" that did absolutely nothing at all.
Woohoo. A few flurries.

[chumley]

Snowbowl is opening on Thursday! They got 7-13" over the weekend and it was heavy, wet snow so they were able to pack it down and establish a base. Too bad the forecast looks clear for the foreseeable future. They really could use another storm.

[Ckzona]

Snowbowl is opening and they finally opened up sunrise cam up again and it looks like they have a great base. Im surprised there not opening up the lower part yet. Yeh the weather looks warm and dry for the next week.

[Ckzona]

Anyone know if Mount Lemmon is open. I would be surprised if this last storm didnt open them up