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joebartels wrote:@codyiscool
Segment mileage is at https://hikearizona.com/decoder.php?ZTN=797
Water tab is under the map
Desktop -> right column
Mobile -> water is under Route tab
It depends which ones. Some are pretty reliable, others less so. I think of General Springs, Aspen Spring, and Pinchot Spring as always having water (which covers the trip pretty well for me), but you'll have to make your own judgment based on the reports.codyiscool wrote:Do I ever neeed to worry about water sources being dry?
In general when hiking how can I know if a trail has water for sure?big_load wrote:It depends which ones. Some are pretty reliable, others less so. I think of General Springs, Aspen Spring, and Pinchot Spring as always having water (which covers the trip pretty well for me), but you'll have to make your own judgment based on the reports.codyiscool wrote:Do I ever neeed to worry about water sources being dry?
codyiscool wrote:In general when hiking how can I know if a trail has water for sure?
big_load wrote:you'll have to make your own judgment based on the reports
I forgot, that was a good one.rcorfman wrote:Dane Spring
Keep in mind above all you are responsible for yourself and there are often no absolute guarantees. If you are hiking along a creek or stream that is permanent all year round, then there is little to worry about. But in Arizona those aren't as common as other states, and furthermore the closer you are to a city, they tend to be more crowded and trashed. Your odds are greatly increased by checking for recent triplogs, doing research, and especially checking for anyone that has logged water reports. However, this can limit you to only going places that others have recently visited.codyiscool wrote:In general when hiking how can I know if a trail has water for sure?big_load wrote:It depends which ones. Some are pretty reliable, others less so. I think of General Springs, Aspen Spring, and Pinchot Spring as always having water (which covers the trip pretty well for me), but you'll have to make your own judgment based on the reports.codyiscool wrote:Do I ever neeed to worry about water sources being dry?
Plus many opportunities to do a 'beer drop' beforehand near the FR crossings too!chumley wrote:@codyiscool
I like the east loop. It's 18 miles if you just do the loop, or 20 if you start and end at Buck Springs Cabin. You can go in either direction, and you'll end up on the northern half of the Houston Brothers trail at about the halfway point in mileage, making it a nice place to spend the night. There are nice places to camp from Pinchot guard station to McFarland spring, and several sources of water as well (as has been explained in previous replies above).
I have no idea the speed you hike, but I think average is about 2mph, so I would guesstimate 6 hours +/- for each day with breaks factored in.
Here's a https://hikearizona.com/map.php?GPS=12479 of the east loop to follow.
Thanks so much!!! They’ll be parking there? How do I know where I can start and not start? This is the image I was looking at:chumley wrote:@codyiscool
I like the east loop. It's 18 miles if you just do the loop, or 20 if you start and end at Buck Springs Cabin. You can go in either direction, and you'll end up on the northern half of the Houston Brothers trail at about the halfway point in mileage, making it a nice place to spend the night. There are nice places to camp from Pinchot guard station to McFarland spring, and several sources of water as well (as has been explained in previous replies above).
I have no idea the speed you hike, but I think average is about 2mph, so I would guesstimate 6 hours +/- for each day with breaks factored in.
Here's a https://hikearizona.com/map.php?GPS=12479 of the east loop to follow.
hikeaz wrote:Plus many opportunities to do a 'beer drop' beforehand near the FR crossings too!chumley wrote:@codyiscool
I like the east loop. It's 18 miles if you just do the loop, or 20 if you start and end at Buck Springs Cabin. You can go in either direction, and you'll end up on the northern half of the Houston Brothers trail at about the halfway point in mileage, making it a nice place to spend the night. There are nice places to camp from Pinchot guard station to McFarland spring, and several sources of water as well (as has been explained in previous replies above).
I have no idea the speed you hike, but I think average is about 2mph, so I would guesstimate 6 hours +/- for each day with breaks factored in.
Here's a https://hikearizona.com/map.php?GPS=12479 of the east loop to follow.
The places where people park are pretty recognizable. I've never had problem finding a spot near where I want.codyiscool wrote:They’ll be parking there? How do I know where I can start and not start?
chumley wrote:As I posted above, here is a GPS track of the 18 or 20 mile east loop: https://hikearizona.com/map.php?GPS=12479
Here's the 18 mile west loop: https://hikearizona.com/map.php?GPS=1081
Here's the complete 27-mile outer Loop: https://hikearizona.com/map.php?GPS=37086
These GPS tracks (and many others) are all available under the "Route" tab on the hike description page linked in the first reply. If you're doing hike research, you may want to check out the "official route", "other routes" and "alt routes" to see how other people have hiked the loop.
When you view a route, it will show the elevation profile of the hike (left side on desktop, click "menu" on mobile to see it). This will help you easily view the uphill/downhill profile, and you can choose which direction you would rather hike based on your personal preferences.