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Looking for short scenic Supes route
Posted: Mar 29 2019 11:39 am
by sajor75
Never been to the Supes, thought i should check it out before it starts getting too hot, in the past i mostly backpacked the Payson, Heber and Showlow areas, would i enjoy the Supes coming from backpacking where its mostly forest type backpacking.
Looking for an over nighter , between 15 and 20 miles, preferably a loop route, what i liked about hiking/backpacking up North is that most times you have the trail to yourself especially if you go on a weekday is this also the case in the Supes.
Re: Looking for short scenic Supes route
Posted: Mar 29 2019 12:45 pm
by wildwesthikes
If there was one overnighter to rule them all in the superstitions, this would be my pick:
[ Route Editor ]
In the next two weeks most of the flowing water will be dried up, limiting your camping options unless you want to carry a bunch of water. However, you will find water at Charlebois Spring year round. 2nd Water Spring is also pretty reliable.
Just be aware that the campsites right next to the springs can be pretty competitive any time of year; they are also where the big groups tend to go, so you may have a noise problem to deal with. You will probably get visitors walking up who have the same idea as you, probably there to get water as well. What I do normally in the dry season is do my hiking with a couple liters of water, walk up to the spring - top off and collect for a total of 5 liters and then camp another mile or so down the trail where I won't be bothered.
Re: Looking for short scenic Supes route
Posted: Mar 29 2019 12:50 pm
by ALMAL
@sajor75
The
[ Marsh Valley Loop ] from First Water should fit the bill. About 16 miles depending on how you wander around. You'll see people out but not many once you turn off on
[ Cavalry Trail #239 ] . Nice campsites along Cavalry trail, water o' plenty right now. I prefer to hike this one clockwise.
And, luckily no fire restrictions yet...
Re: Looking for short scenic Supes route
Posted: Mar 29 2019 1:04 pm
by chumley
isnt the superstitions desert like terrain with mountains, if that is your cup of tea go for it but i much prefer the green pine trees of up north.
Re: Looking for short scenic Supes route
Posted: Mar 29 2019 2:46 pm
by hikeaz
The eastern Sups are much less-traveled and have more trees (although not up to the Rim's crop). Loop hikes are possible. You may consider heading there.
Re: Looking for short scenic Supes route
Posted: Mar 29 2019 3:37 pm
by SAMBA
IMHO, trees are simply view killers. It's nothing a good wild fire or an Agent Orange strike can't cure, but barring those two gifts from God, I like my hikin' "desert style". The western portion of the Supes definitely qualifies.
Re: Looking for short scenic Supes route
Posted: Apr 01 2019 4:01 pm
by herdbull
elleryjk wrote: ↑Mar 29 2019 12:45 pm
If there was one overnighter to rule them all in the superstitions, this would be my pick:
[ Route Editor ]
In the next two weeks most of the flowing water will be dried up, limiting your camping options unless you want to carry a bunch of water. However, you will find water at Charlebois Spring year round. 2nd Water Spring is also pretty reliable.
Just be aware that the campsites right next to the springs can be pretty competitive any time of year; they are also where the big groups tend to go, so you may have a noise problem to deal with. You will probably get visitors walking up who have the same idea as you, probably there to get water as well. What I do normally in the dry season is do my hiking with a couple liters of water, walk up to the spring - top off and collect for a total of 5 liters and then camp another mile or so down the trail where I won't be bothered.
Being from Wisconsin with limited time in the area I have managed to cover a lot of ground trail running out there the last 3-4 years. I like the end result of elleryjk's trip, IMO a better start point would be from the north at the marina. I think it's trail 103. Some of the best scenery I've come across once you get in a few miles.
I ran it from Peralta Trailhead and once I got through Boulder canyon and "up top" I couldn't stop turning back to see the view. It was so neat I returned the next day with the other half and we hiked in from the marina. Plenty of parking at the trailhead in the Marina and decent food once you return to your car at the end of the trip. Not to mention a nice ride out to scout for the next adventure.
If I can track down a pic or 2 I'll post later.
Re: Looking for short scenic Supes route
Posted: Apr 02 2019 8:32 am
by wildwesthikes
@herdbull
I love the hike from the Marina - through
[ Boulder Canyon Trail #103 ] from there would be great this time of year with water still running but not as deep.
Re: Looking for short scenic Supes route
Posted: Apr 02 2019 3:26 pm
by herdbull
pics as promised.
Re: Looking for short scenic Supes route
Posted: Apr 02 2019 3:28 pm
by herdbull
well that didn't work
whats the key to adding pics on this site? I'll never understand why it's so hard to upload pics on certain forums lol
Re: Looking for short scenic Supes route
Posted: Apr 02 2019 3:29 pm
by joebartels
Re: Looking for short scenic Supes route
Posted: Apr 03 2019 3:34 pm
by herdbull
I only have 2 of them I was going to post to this thread but I don't think it likes the shape/ratio. It won't upload them.
I get this error when attempting to add this post. "It was not possible to determine the dimensions of the image. Please verify that the URL you entered is correct."
Re: Looking for short scenic Supes route
Posted: Apr 03 2019 3:41 pm
by chumley
@herdbull The forum is for questions, comments, discussion. Not photos or trip reports.
HAZ Forum Guidelines
4) Do not post photos or a journal of a trip in the forum.
Use the +Add found at the top of every page.
We would love to see your photos. If you click the +Add at the top of the page, it should be pretty straightforward. If you have trouble posting photos using the +Add function above, more detailed instructions are available.
Re: Looking for short scenic Supes route
Posted: Apr 03 2019 3:56 pm
by chumley
@herdbull
Also, just for your information (and of those reading this forum later with similar queries), there are quite a few photos of this trail already posted on site. If you navigate over to the description page for that hike (here:
[ Boulder Canyon Trail #103 ] ), you'll have the option to peruse some of the views that you and other hikers before and after you also experienced.
While it is encouraged that everybody share their photos and triplogs, sometimes it's easier just to find a photo of a trail that somebody already posted. A couple of good ones of this trail from a similar angle are
[ photo ] and
[ photo ]
Happy trails!
Re: Looking for short scenic Supes route
Posted: Apr 04 2019 3:43 pm
by herdbull
sorry. for me I don't see the point in not being to add a pic or 2 to a post or thread. I've been on or belong to dozens of forums and this is the only one that doesn't allow pics within the individual posts.
I lose all interest in having to go up here, click over there, search for this trail..... oops wrong one, search again, sort through pics. Mehhh, by then I'm over it.
For what it's worth I did upload 2 pics to the trail 103 photo set or some odd ball thing. Heck, who knows where they went. lol.
Re: Looking for short scenic Supes route
Posted: Apr 04 2019 6:21 pm
by CannondaleKid
herdbull wrote:Heck, who knows where they went. lol.
Just go to your profile, which is here:
[ herdbull Profile ]
Then click on Boulder Canyon Trail #103:
[ photoset ]
Voila! There's your photoset.
Re: Looking for short scenic Supes route
Posted: Apr 05 2019 9:34 am
by SAMBA
@herdbull
HikeArizona.com does a lot of "stuff" right. "User friendliness" ain't one of them. As was said about older versions of Linux, "it's expert friendly" (not so now). While it would be a stretch to say the same about HA's interface , it takes some "getting used to". Be patient. If you're a serious outdoors guy, you'll be happy you did.