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Toxaway - Pettit LoopCentral Idaho, ID
Central Idaho, ID
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Backpack22.35 Miles 3,480 AEG
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After wrapping up a great overnighter in the White Clouds, I was ready to tackle the Alice Toxaway Loop in the Sawtooths—on my radar since last year, despite concerns about the likely crowds.

TL;DR: Fantastic trip—great trails, stunning views, and I mostly avoided the smoke until the last day.

Day 1 - Sunday, August 19th: Pettit Lake to Farley Lake (~4.5 miles, 1300' gain)

I arrived at the Tin Cup Trailhead just before 2:30 PM, after an hour's drive from the Fourth of July Creek Trailhead. Luckily, I found a parking spot in the main lot, which was about 80% full. By 3 PM, I was on the trail in 91-degree heat, but a steady breeze kept it manageable. I decided last minute to hike counterclockwise, aiming to camp at Farley Lake. On the way, I passed a group of fast-packers also headed there.

As I entered the Toxaway Basin, a trail runner mentioned that Farley Lake was crowded and suggested continuing to Toxaway, but I was too tired to push on. About half a mile further, I found a perfect campsite near the creek. Exhausted, I decided to camp there rather than deal with the crowds. The night was warm, dipping only to 56 degrees, and the sound of the creek made for a restful sleep.

Day 2 - Monday, August 20th: Po-Dunk Campsite to 8165 Lake (~3.0 miles, 650' gain)

I woke up early, packed up, and hit the trail just before 6 AM. The day started with a climb, but the trail soon leveled out as I reached Farley Lake, which was packed with people—even a group blasting music at 6:45 AM. I was glad I hadn't camped there. After a steep climb back to the main trail, I continued toward Lake 8165, my next planned stop.

Just before the junction to Edna and Imogene Lakes, I passed a caravan of horses descending from Imogene. The horsemen mentioned that Imogene was also packed, with people even camping on or near the trail. Lake 8165, just past the junction, turned out to be a hidden gem—deserted, with a beautiful cascade of cold water. I claimed a private campsite by the cascade. Though I initially planned a day hike to Imogene, I ended up relaxing by the lake instead. The night was cooler, dipping into the high 40s, making for another peaceful sleep.

Day 3 - Tuesday, August 21st: 8165 Lake to Alice Lake (~7.0 miles, 1400' gain)

I broke camp around 9:30 AM, aiming to spend my final night at Alice Lake. I knew it would be crowded, but with many campsites, I hoped to find a good spot. Passing Toxaway Lake, I noticed it was busy with hikers heading in the same direction. The climb to Snowyside Pass was easier than expected, with 36 gentle switchbacks and excellent trail conditions. The views from the top were stunning, especially of Twin Lakes below. The pass was windy but warm, and I caught occasional whiffs of smoke from a wildfire to the north.

I reached Alice Lake by 1:30 PM and was surprised to find only two other campers. I set up camp near the peninsula, preparing for some cowboy camping on my final night. By evening, the clear skies turned smoky, and temperatures dropped to 41 degrees. Despite the smoke, ending the trip at Alice Lake was a great decision—the views were incredible, and wildlife was abundant.

Day 4 - Wednesday, August 22nd: Alice Lake to Tin Cup Trailhead (~7.0 miles, ~300' gain, and ~1600' loss)

The smoke lingered until about 10 AM, so I waited to start hiking. Once the wind cleared the air, I was eager to get back to the car, as I had obligations in Idaho Falls that evening. I pushed the pace, taking advantage of my lighter pack, and made it back to Tin Cup in just over two hours. The trail was mostly downhill, though the rocky switchbacks slowed me down a bit.

Overall, it was an amazing trip, but be prepared for heavy traffic on the loop—crowds are almost guaranteed, privacy is minimal, and a wag bag is essential. Water sources are conveniently spaced about every half to 2 miles along the route. And a word to the wise: hang your food right away; those chipmunks are audacious little thieves!
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The whole SNRA is very dry.

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You can collect water here but it's pretty muddy getting out to the shore where you can collect water.

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Toxaway - Pettit LoopCentral Idaho, ID
Central Idaho, ID
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Pettit Lake / Hell Roaring - Mega LoopCentral Idaho, ID
Central Idaho, ID
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This backpack was the culminating event of our time in the Sawtooths and our hiking and backpacking tour of Montana and Idaho. We completed the loop in a counterclockwise direction. We started at the Lower Hells Roaring Creek Trailhead and then continued on to Hells Roaring Lake and then on to Imogene for our first night. On day two we hung our packs at Sandy Mountain Pass and I day hiked to Ardeth Lake while Carrie and Chloe turned around at Vernon Lake. We met up later on and camped at Alice Lake for our second night. Day three was suppose to be easy, but the final connector trail we chose to complete our loop turned out to be a most likely decomissioned trail and it was a bit of a deadfall nightmare. This backpack was pretty amazing and was an awesome way to finish our time on the road up there.

Day one was a pretty easy day. We really took our time getting to Imogene Lake and then after setting up camp, set off for a hike around the lake via the Imogene Lake Trail. The trail looks to no longer be receiving maintenance and there was no longer a trail sign for it, so this leads me to believe the forest service is no longer promoting its use, probably in an attempt to lessen the human impact on the heavily visited lake. After our hike around the lake, it was a quick swim, some camp chores and then just enjoying our premier spot on the lake.

Day two began with the climb to the pass guarding Imogene Lake and then the climb to Sand Mountain Pass. We hung our packs there and grabbed our day packs for a detour to Edna and Vernon Lakes, which we both found to be relatively scenic. At Vernon, Carrie turned around and headed back to the pass and on to Alice Lake with Chloe, while I continued on to Ardeth Lake. The hike to Ardeth was nice, in particular, the unnamed lake above Vernon provides a very scenic setting. The drop down into Ardeth was more than I wanted to do, but I did it anyways. Ardeth was a pretty large scenic lake, but it would not compare to the lakes that I would run across later in my day. After a quick look at the lake, I returned the way I came and put the heavy pack back on. The hike down to Toxaway Lake was simply spectacular and was certainly the highlight of the backpack for me and possible the trip. There were wildflower meadows and great view after great view of the very scenic lake. From Toxaway, I began the climb up to the pass above the Twin Lakes and Alice Lake. The climb became a bit of a slog for me, but I eventually made it. The views from the pass were absolutely superb with the best view being towards the Twin Lakes with their nice backdrop of ragged snow patched mountains. The hike to Alice went pretty quickly and after walking by them a few times, I was reunited with Carrie and Chloe. Carrie had snagged us a pretty amazing site right on the lake.

Day three was suppose to be a pretty standard easy hike out and it was going that way until we got to our final connector trail to complete our ambitious loop. The May Creek Trail ended up being a bit of a deadfall nightmare, especially, for Carrie and her shorter legs. We should have known from the deadfall we encountered in the first 20 feet of this trail that it was going to be bad, as all of the other trails in the area are in immaculate condition. We spent so much time researching all of the other trails that we did not think to wonder if a 3 mile connector trail was going to be nearly impassable. My guess is the trail is on its way to being decommissioned and does not see much use anymore. If completing this loop in the future, I would rely on a prearranged shuttle, or take your chances with hitching or bumming a ride to complete this loop. That is unless you get confirmation that the trail has been cleared, then its a perfect ending trail to complete the loop for this backpack.





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Toxaway - Pettit LoopCentral Idaho, ID
Central Idaho, ID
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This is one of the most popular hikes in Idaho, and deservedly so. I first did it as part of a much longer trip, 8 years ago to the day, in a year when visitation was greatly reduced by two fires in progress and temps over 100F, even at altitude. We were out for a week on that trip and only saw three people before the last day. This time I brought Mrs. big_load for a shorter jaunt among the Alpine Lakes.

We spent the night before at the USFS campground at Pettit Lake. Clouds rolled in at dusk, and it rained hard overnight, but it was clearing in the morning. We thought the rain might hold off the crowds, but were informed by a ranger at the TH that a group of 14 first-time backpackers was on its way. After getting the "since we're all here" LNT talk, we scurried up the trail as fast as possible to outdistance the throngs. Life was great until halfway up the first ascent, when fresh clouds poured over the pass in a brisk wind and it started raining sideways. Dayhikers in shorts breezed past us with little concern for the weather, but we broke out the rain gear. Moments later, the rain turned to snow.

We rested until the snow eased, then pressed on, but it came back harder. As we neared Alice Lake, where the group of 14 would be staying, the dayhikers were turning back and advised us to do the same. Then came two groups of backpackers, who thought we were nuts to continue. It really wasn't too bad, though. We reached Twin Lakes in a brief clear moment and picked a wonderful site on the peninsula. Mrs. big_load was getting chilled, so I gave her my jacket and she curled up in her sleeping bag, although it was only mid-afternoon. I fired up some cocoa and explored for a while. She eventually warmed up and cheered for the occasional patches of blue between snow squalls. Nearly all the snow melted soon after landing.

Meanwhile, the hordes were arriving. We apparently weren't the only ones who brushed off the dire warnings. First there was a group of four geezers, possibly younger than me, then a group of seven scouts and their leader, and a few other isolated arrivals. Our quiet lake was now as crowded as Alice a few hundred feet below. It was a far cry from seeing only three other hikers in a week. Even so, it couldn't detract from the beauty around us. We had a great dinner and although clouds and fog poured in from the pass above, it soon retreated. After a few more cups of hot chocolate, it was time for bed, and we were almost tired enough to sleep through the whooping boy scouts.

After dark, the clouds blew off, stars filled the sky, and temps plummeted to the low 20s. The moon came out and the scouts ran out of gas. We rose at dawn, scarfed down breakfast, and hit the trail while they were still snoring. It's a steep climb over the headwall, but not too bad in the cool of the morning. The second day would be about 14 miles with all the switchbacks, so we kept moving. There were plenty of deer and birds about, and we had the place to ourselves most of the day, which was mostly downhill.

There was nobody at Toxaway, which was bigger than I remember it. I had also forgotten how the trail goes up several hundred feet on the bench above the lake to get around numerous marshes and to gain easier stream crossings. By late morning it was pretty warm, probably around 80F. As we approached the lower lakes, opposing traffic started to build, including a few strings of pack horses, a herd of backpackers, and some fishermen. Pushing uphill in the heat was taking quite a toll on them. Going downhill was taking a toll on Mrs. big_load, who has more than a few years on most of them, and probably hasn't made more than 11 miles with a pack on before. She help up well, even through the 450 ft climb and matching descent right at the end.

Passing the trailhead in high spirits, we met a USFS rep who was taking a survey of exiting hikers. We answered questions and gabbed for 20 minutes about berries, flowers, and favorite forests before rushing off to Stanley for some town food, and returning for another quiet night at Pettit Lake. In the morning, we splurged for pay showers at Redfish Lake and ate a fancy breakfast at Redfish Lake Lodge, with an outstanding view of the Sawtooths through the wall of windows.

Mrs. big_load disliked the cold and the long second day, but this was her first real excursion into the alpine, and she considered it well worth the trouble. Next time, I'm going for a less popular route, though.

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Lupines, Mariposa Lilies, Penstemons, many Asteracaea, other typical alpine flowers. Currants and Raspberries were in fruit, Strawberries long gone.
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