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Feb 05 2006
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70 male
 Joined Feb 01 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
Camelback Summit - Cholla TrailPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 05 2006
00Triplogs 3
Hiking3.00 Miles 1,275 AEG
Hiking3.00 Miles   1 Hour   5 Mns   2.77 mph
1,275 ft AEG
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The view from the summit is spectacular, clearly worth the hike. We started at 10AM in early February with a small group up to the top, stoping several places along to enjoy the view. Overall I felt it was a fairly easy trip on the way up, with the only real hazards being a couple of places in the upper stretch where a mis-step could result in a significant and rapid altitude change :) The trek down on the top part was a little tenuious, and probably could become problematic when very large numbers of hikers take toward the summit at the same time.

One of the more interesting aspects of the hike was the apparel found hiking the trail. Some were serious appropriately equiped hikers, but many others ill prepared, without any water, wearing flip flops or low heels.
The view from the top was great in all directions, with the ability to see long distances on a clear day.
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Jan 21 2006
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70 male
 Joined Feb 01 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
Humphreys B-24 Bomber Crash SiteFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 21 2006
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Hiking7.00 Miles 1,680 AEG
Hiking7.00 Miles
1,680 ft AEG
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We decided to make this hike when it looked like it would be a dry winter. The light dusting 2 days before made the last ¼ mile of the trip quite difficult. There was 0.7" of snow at the Humphrey's trailhead, but closer to 1.5" at the site. It took us 3 hours hiking with a group to find the site, of which 1 hour was spent making the 1/2 mile from the switchback to the site. On the return, it took about an hour to get from the wreckage back to the trailhead. We had a difficult time finding the site, but once there, realized there was a very easy way to find it (below). After climbing too high and not far enough north, we ultimately found the site because of a sun glint off a wing and a sharp eyed hiker.

Pictures really can't describe the site, there is wreckage scattered hundreds of yards up and down the rock field, while the fuselage is likely buried below the rocks. The outboard wing segments are somewhat intact, one landing gear is standing vertical, and other smaller components and fragments are scattered in the rocks and amongst the trees. This is a sobering reminder of the inherent risk in flying, and appreciation for those who serve our country, even though this site is 60+ years old. The vista of the surround area is excellent, virtually unobstructed from the West to the North.

:idea: On the return trek, a simple strategy insuring the finding of the site became obvious, with the assistance of a GPS / altimeter: Hike about 1/2 mile N of the 7th switchback, slowly climbing to 11,220 feet. The center of the site is at 11,220 feet and in a large open rock field. (The field extends up and down the mountain for > 1/2 mile, so if you keep going N around the mountain in the proscribed altitude range, you'll hit it. The wreckage is in there.)

First, see the attached map in the photo section. It shows Snowbowl and the Trail 151 trailhead in the parking lot. Also note that the debris field is in a large rock field, indicated as the thin white streak on the map. Starting from the trailhead, start the hike past the first switchback, to a "T" in the trail, the second switchback. Sign in here for safety, then proceed to your left, as the trail to the right takes you back to Snowbowl's lodge. Continue up the trail to the seventh switch back, which is at approximately 11,020 feet altitude. From here, leave the trail and travel 1/2 mile toward the North around the mountain. Over this trek, you'll need to gain approximately 200 feet in altitude, some of it will be challenging, even more so in light snow, including the traversing of a small valley. Once past this, continue across the hill staying close to 11,200 ft altitude. While there are some caroms to mark the path, they're sometimes difficult to see in the shadows. Soon, you'll break out of the forest and into the large open rock field. Once you enter the rock field, walk to the middle, you should be able to see the wreckage in all directions. The distance from the switchback is about 1/2 mile. The Lat/Long coordinates are below in white font. Starting early in the morning, we're going to do this again in the summer, as a side detour from a hike to the peak.
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Jul 04 2005
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70 male
 Joined Feb 01 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
Havasu Canyon TrailNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 04 2005
00Triplogs 3
Hiking21.00 Miles 2,496 AEG
Hiking21.00 Miles
2,496 ft AEG
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Great Hike, spectacular vistas and waterfalls. It's as hard or as easy as you want to make it. For us, the toughest part was hiking in the canyons where there is significant side slope.

One area of concern is communications with the tribal office. We were scheduled to go again to Havasupai in March, after the rains, and only found out the night before that they had closed the canyon.... We had to call, they did not call us, even though they had 3 ways to contact us. Others we found out later, had similar problems. They apparently march to their own drummer.

Worth the trip, but make sure your reservation is good. Getting the refund was also a pain...
We cached a lot of water about 1/3 the way down, which turned out to be a good idea, making the trek in the sun much easier, particularly the last 2 miles back up the hill.
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