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Oct 16 2021
Hansenaz
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68 male
 Joined Apr 06 2005
 Phoenix, AZ
Sonoran Desert NM stroll, AZ 
Sonoran Desert NM stroll, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 16 2021
Hansenaz
Hiking5.91 Miles 434 AEG
Hiking5.91 Miles   2 Hrs   54 Mns   2.12 mph
434 ft AEG      7 Mns Break
 
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I hadn't been to the Sonoran Desert National Monument before so I headed out to see if I could find any remnants of the Komatke Trail. Archaeologists and historians say it connected the Lower Gila River people with the Phoenix basin and was still in use when the Spanish first passed through. I've walked part of the trail before (further east in the Estrellas [ triplog ] , [ triplog ] ) but the path through the open desert is harder to find. There's a video recently posted on Youtube by Southwest Archaeology (google Komatke Trail) showing some work documenting its location.

Anyway I didn't find a thing, not a sherd. But it's nice open desert out there, no weeds or litter, and just a fine place to walk around.

I spiced it up a little by seeing if I could complete a driving loop on some desert road. That was fun: about 20mi of often sandy and off-camberish driving but almost no rocks. Fun in a Subaru, probably NG for a Corolla. The driving route is here [ gps route ] .

It's good they made a NM out here...the rest of the area seems to be (literally) filling up with giant landfills.
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Oct 09 2021
Hansenaz
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68 male
 Joined Apr 06 2005
 Phoenix, AZ
Peters Mountain and beyond, AZ 
Peters Mountain and beyond, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 09 2021
Hansenaz
Hiking4.10 Miles 1,352 AEG
Hiking4.10 Miles   3 Hrs   10 Mns   1.37 mph
1,352 ft AEG      11 Mns Break
 
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Peters Mountain is a minor highpoint overlooking Roosevelt Lake and attracts few hikers I'm sure. I decided to go because I noticed an interesting-looking stone enclosure in satellite pictures and Peters Mountain was more or less on the way.

I parked off FR445 and just headed up the most direct route/ridge toward Peters Mountain. Though it was overgrown and a little steep at the beginning it was a pretty quick trip to the top, with nice views of Roosevelt Lake to the left and Four Peaks to the right. Nothing much on top (a 2-rock cairn) but I noticed a collapsed, charred "height of light" (blackened stake with guide wires). More interesting was the system for collecting water for wildlife which is near the top.

From here I took the ridge SE toward the enclosure I had spotted. I enjoyed this part of the walk and was a little surprised I saw zero sign that ancient people had been there - no pottery or obvious stacked stone. As I got nearer my target I was a little surprised to see that it was on a small well-defined mesa top and the stone wall was going all the way around the edge - at least the part I could see.

When I got there I confirmed a good sized (2-6' tall) wall completely encircled the mesa edge. The construction was pretty good but probably a little flimsier than most really ancient walls...plus completely enclosing a mesa like this doesn't seem like something the Salado or Hohokam would do. I saw no pottery (though the grass could have been hiding some) but there were 5 or 6 "interior rooms" built against the perimeter wall and some blackened stone which indicated habitation. There was a deliberate opening to the enclosure (perimeter walls offset) which provides strongest evidence that this was used as some sort of corral. If I had to guess I'd go with later natives keeping horses there. Whoever it was they were tough and motivated because all routes to that mesa top are steep and how the heck would you get enough water up there to water animals?

I remember (but can't find) a log from @Flying_Fliver a few years ago where he visited a fairly similar enclosure 20mi SE of here on the other side of the Salt River. I'm thinking the same group of people built both enclosures. I'm curious who they were.

Returned the way I came but detoured to an adjacent ridge for the drop back to the car.
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Oct 02 2021
Hansenaz
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68 male
 Joined Apr 06 2005
 Phoenix, AZ
Morning Glyphs, AZ 
Morning Glyphs, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Oct 02 2021
Hansenaz
Hiking4.09 Miles 1,036 AEG
Hiking4.09 Miles   3 Hrs   53 Mns   1.09 mph
1,036 ft AEG      8 Mns Break
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Looked at a map with some ancient Hohokam sites and picked out a couple that didn't appear to be plowed under. First one wasn't plowed but it looked like it had been scraped with a bulldozer. Only saw two small pieces of pottery. The other one was in the foothills. I found almost no sign of habitation (just a few pottery sherds) but on a stroll through the nearby hills I found some petroglyphs and some rock alignments.
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Sep 25 2021
Hansenaz
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68 male
 Joined Apr 06 2005
 Phoenix, AZ
Salida Gulch and Lynx Ruin, AZ 
Salida Gulch and Lynx Ruin, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Sep 25 2021
Hansenaz
Hiking5.69 Miles 1,029 AEG
Hiking5.69 Miles   2 Hrs   47 Mns   2.12 mph
1,029 ft AEG      6 Mns Break
 
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I thought this would be a pleasant walk past some petroglyphs and a lake, then a separate spur-trail to a park-regulated hilltop ruin. I was partially right: pleasant walk past the lake but I missed seeing any petros and I ended up just bushwacking up the hill as part of the loop.

The little research I'd done made me think the trail passed the petroglyphs but going back now and reading a 2010 triplog indicates that's no longer true. Oh well. The trail is mainly on ridges, I'm guessing the glyphs are down in the gulch.

It was a cool and drizzly day and I hadn't been to Prescott for a while and I enjoyed the trail walk. As I was completing the loop I noticed I wasn't far from the hilltop ruin so I just bushwacked up to it from the east (there is a parking area and trail from the south). The National Forest folks have gone to some trouble to prepare the ruin for tourist visits by constructing a wooden viewing platform with some placards. The ruin itself is not great: maybe 10 collapsed rooms, overgrown so its a little hard to see anything.

Noticed several groups of people poking around in Lynx Creek near my parking spot. They were panning (gold?) and looking in creek side holes - must be stuff to be found.
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Sep 18 2021
Hansenaz
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68 male
 Joined Apr 06 2005
 Phoenix, AZ
South of Wupatki 6, AZ 
South of Wupatki 6, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Sep 18 2021
Hansenaz
Hiking6.12 Miles 484 AEG
Hiking6.12 Miles   4 Hrs   2 Mns   1.65 mph
484 ft AEG      19 Mns Break
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Returned to a favorite area near Wupatki NM, walking some new ground. The cinders had a lot of vegetation today likely due to the monsoon moisture. The ground cover makes it a little harder to find pottery and low walls but the area has plenty of ancient remnants so its always a good day up there.

Found the usual complement of primitive ruins and pottery pieces. Most notable were a couple enclosures built into volcanic protrusions that were different from the usual. Saw one pronghorn and enjoyed the relative cool.
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Sep 04 2021
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68 male
 Joined Apr 06 2005
 Phoenix, AZ
Alder Petroglyph, AZ 
Alder Petroglyph, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Sep 04 2021
Hansenaz
Hiking14.29 Miles 1,737 AEG
Hiking14.29 Miles   8 Hrs   55 Mns   1.86 mph
1,737 ft AEG   1 Hour   13 Mns Break
 
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I have trouble these days finding new interesting places to go particularly in the heat. I was thinking about going back to Hardscrabble Mesa (west of Pine) where I'd been many times and usually enjoyed, though the walks can be tough.

While trying to define an interesting new line to check out I remembered an old PM exchange I had with @Sredfield. He's the AZ Trail Boss and the exchange was about an ancient ruin near the AZ Trail - but in passing he mentioned coming across a nice petroglyph while they were designing the passage 25 re-route to Pine. This is near Hardscrabble Mesa but actually on Alder Ridge.

As I looked into the best way to get there I figured I could use the road approach used by the AZ Trail crew. This would leave me a 6-7mi round trip walk on the nice new trail section. This sounded perfect.

Unfortunately, 50 yds up the power line road I decided it was not compatible with my Subaru - way too rocky. This would add 4mi each way but I had no plan B. So I just started walking thinking I could turn around any time. It wasn't bad at all: road walking (even rocky) and the new trail were much nicer than the usual mesa walking up there. Off-trail would have been particularly bad today with the abundant growth hiding all the rocks. The growth obscured the new trail in quite a few places but following it was no problem (particularly with Toddak's gps track loaded).

I was feeling good and making good time as I got near the petroglyph destination: 7mi in 3hrs is pretty good for me but I was starting to tire out. The petroglyph and a couple neighbors were very nice and you'd have to be pretty lucky to stumble on that location.

The return was no fun for me at all. Probably I had been over-conserving the drinks I was carrying and I'm guessing dehydration slowed me down (something did!). But I made it out. Note to self: 14mi in the heat is more than twice as long as 7mi in the heat.
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Aug 14 2021
Hansenaz
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68 male
 Joined Apr 06 2005
 Phoenix, AZ
NE Black Mesa Loop, AZ 
NE Black Mesa Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Aug 14 2021
Hansenaz
Hiking5.52 Miles 411 AEG
Hiking5.52 Miles   4 Hrs   29 Mns   1.35 mph
411 ft AEG      23 Mns Break
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I thought a walk around on Black Mesa might be fun: no mud on the drive if I used the redneck Richinbar Windmill exit from I-17. And if I remembered right that it had burned, and guessed right that it had not grown back, it'd be easy walking and easy to see stuff.

I lucked out and was right about the mesa conditions. All the cows were huddling in the vicinity of the windmill and corral ruin which makes me think they've been relying on rancher support. But I noticed by the end of the day they had scattered a bit and were nibbling on green shoots popping up thanks to the rain.

The bare ground allowed me to notice a couple one rooms ruins I hadn't seen before on my way to the mesa edge. At the edge I visited some spots I'd been to before: the ruins' "extent" were more obvious this visit with much of the overgrowth gone. On the return I walked some new ground and passed a few areas with some pottery and possible grinding slicks but nothing completely convincing.
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Jul 22 2021
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68 male
 Joined Apr 06 2005
 Phoenix, AZ
out Winslow way, AZ 
out Winslow way, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jul 22 2021
Hansenaz
Hiking5.00 Miles
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Identified 4 or 5 places near Winslow that were worth a look and came up with a plan to get out of town on the forecast temperature dip. Unfortunately I ran into several locked gates which stymied me and by mid-afternoon on day one I was at the last site for my two day plan.

I didn't expect much from that location but it turned out to have nice petroglyphs, saving the day.

I camped out at the Winslow EconoLodge and came up with a new plan for the next day. But once again, locked gates ruined all that and so I just took the long way home enjoying the weather and countryside and arrived in time for Friday Happy Hour.
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Jun 19 2021
Hansenaz
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68 male
 Joined Apr 06 2005
 Phoenix, AZ
SW of Wupatki, AZ 
SW of Wupatki, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jun 19 2021
Hansenaz
Hiking7.63 Miles 753 AEG
Hiking7.63 Miles   4 Hrs   57 Mns   1.64 mph
753 ft AEG      18 Mns Break
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I figured out a walk I could do in cinder country that had a few worthwhile destinations (satellite view) and minimal overlap with previous trips.

The primitive approach roads can be iffy, though usually OK for my Subaru. But today's road went down a steepish loose cinder track, with curves, which made me a little worried about whether I could get back up. This occurred to me when I got to the bottom.

As usual there was pottery on the ground within arms reach of my parking spot and it was a short walk to the first site which was surrounded by pottery. That was the theme of the day: ruins all over the place and interesting pottery everywhere. Every site I'd spotted in the satellite view and marked "maybe" was indeed a ruin, and there were quite a few unexpected small sites in between.

I had several contingency plans for getting my car up the hill but in the end, no problem. Nice to get out of town and even the hour delay getting past the wreck below Sunset Point didn't bother me.
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May 30 2021
Hansenaz
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68 male
 Joined Apr 06 2005
 Phoenix, AZ
NW of Wupatki, AZ 
NW of Wupatki, AZ
 
Hiking avatar May 30 2021
Hansenaz
Hiking4.07 Miles 976 AEG
Hiking4.07 Miles   3 Hrs   47 Mns   1.21 mph
976 ft AEG      25 Mns Break
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Went north to escape the heat and visit the last section near Wupatki I had on my list.

I started in ranch land and went down a steep hill into red-rock country. Very nice walking in the washes and the low hills and buttes and there's plenty of ancient cultural signs. Low stacked stone walls are almost everywhere and I passed 4 or 5 impressive "Wupatki-like" structures. The preservation of these is much better than that of ones of similar age built in central AZ that I'm used to seeing. Probably the nice flat rock lends itself to better and sturdier construction. Good day!
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May 15 2021
Hansenaz
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68 male
 Joined Apr 06 2005
 Phoenix, AZ
Youngs Canyon Loop, AZ 
Youngs Canyon Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar May 15 2021
Hansenaz
Hiking7.87 Miles 738 AEG
Hiking7.87 Miles   4 Hrs   53 Mns   1.69 mph
738 ft AEG      14 Mns Break
 
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Returned to an area east of Flagstaff that had a lot of Sinagua (I think) inhabitants in the past. I had marked some waypoints based on satellite snooping though nothing was real definite. Anyway I mainly wandered around trying to visit waypoints if I got near them.

Waypoint success (i.e. marking something ancient) was about 50:50 and I passed some small ruins. There was pottery almost everywhere I went all day but of course concentrated near the ruins. At the end of the day I passed a fairly large "L-shaped" ruin which I've found to be a common design in the area south of Wupatki. It sits on a small hill with a nice 270deg view, its back to Merriam Crater.

Much of the walk was along Youngs Canyon which made a good impression. It's not very deep, with white rock terraces on the south side and some black basalt on the north side. I was surprised to find petroglyphs (mainly faint) on the basalt. The canyon bottom consisted of black "cinder sand" with reddish sand/dirt just above on both sides.
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May 08 2021
Hansenaz
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68 male
 Joined Apr 06 2005
 Phoenix, AZ
Curve at the Agua Fria, AZ 
Curve at the Agua Fria, AZ
 
Hiking avatar May 08 2021
Hansenaz
Hiking5.37 Miles 1,161 AEG
Hiking5.37 Miles   4 Hrs   39 Mns   1.29 mph
1,161 ft AEG      30 Mns Break
 
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Walked a section of the Agua Fria River today - almost the same route @Flying_Fliver walked 5 years ago. I spent most of my time looking for ancient cultural signs but didn't find much: a couple minor rock alignments and one piece of pottery. Apparently all the ancient action was on the other side of the river.
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Apr 24 2021
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68 male
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 Phoenix, AZ
Palo Verde Hills, AZ 
Palo Verde Hills, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 24 2021
Hansenaz
Hiking4.22 Miles 1,009 AEG
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I had a semi-guided tour of the Palo Verde Hills a few years ago courtesy of @Petrophile. There are a lots of petroglyphs in these dry hills. And there are many little hills so after some research I decided to check out a few more. I drove the desert roads between these hills and had 5 short walks.

First hill is close to the main road and had the expected amount of discarded water bottles, conv. store coffee cups, and Bud Light cans along the crest. I also found some modern rock arranging on top and a (first ever) cigarette cache. But except for a single rock alignment, nothing that looked ancient.

Next was a small hill that I just took a chance on - plenty of petroglyphs there.

The third hill definitely had some ancient signs with some rock arrangements and a cleared (ceremonial?) path. But I saw only one petroglyph. The 4th hill had a few minor petroglyphs.

In researching the area I ran across several pictures of a nice petroglyph near by at Saddle Mountain. There were enough bread crumbs that I figured it'd be easy to find. I was in the area so I detoured over and took some pictures. A very nice and unusual petroglyph.
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Apr 10 2021
Hansenaz
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68 male
 Joined Apr 06 2005
 Phoenix, AZ
Gila Bend Petroglyphs, AZ 
Gila Bend Petroglyphs, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 10 2021
Hansenaz
Hiking4.51 Miles 678 AEG
Hiking4.51 Miles   3 Hrs   25 Mns   1.42 mph
678 ft AEG      14 Mns Break
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Noticed a section of the Gila River that seemed worth looking at before it gets too hot and I was pretty sure access was legal.

I drove a little closer than I thought I could then enjoyed a few hours just walking around finding petroglyphs. Nothing as spectacular as the best ones along the ancient river but there was plenty to see and keep it interesting.
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Apr 03 2021
Hansenaz
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68 male
 Joined Apr 06 2005
 Phoenix, AZ
Gila Bend Mtn Petroglyphs, AZ 
Gila Bend Mtn Petroglyphs, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 03 2021
Hansenaz
Hiking6.09 Miles 772 AEG
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772 ft AEG
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There's a "semi-known" petroglyph site in a canyon of the Gila Bend Mountains. I thought about going there years ago but private property issues dissuaded me. The logical approach from the north is NG - the dirt road on the west side of the Gila River below Gillespie Dam is posted no trespassing though it is heavily used by big trucks heading to a landfill.

A couple months ago I ran into a couple of nice ladies at a petroglyph site on the lower Gila River and they mentioned to me they'd been to this one the day before though they'd only seen one petroglyph. I inferred they approached from the east - and I ought to be able to figure it out.

Well plan A didn't work [ photo ] . Plan B was a sketch I made on the maze of agricultural roads and that didn't work either - fences, canals, etc. I was about ready to give up. I asked a couple Spanish speakers who we're moving siphon tubes and a little sign language encouragement kept me trying and eventually I got across the dry Gila, and further on was amazed to see a little sign saying "entering public land". Nice! though I'm not sure how you're supposed to get there.

The road got a little better for a while but I parked at a sketchy drop into a wash (90% sure my Outback could do it but I was close enough). Nice walking in an open canyon and I passed a section with a lot of modern rock graffiti but nothing ancient. I also had an interesting camera/phone experience: while attempting to increase screen brightness I somehow turned it to zero. Could not see the screen - could not raise brightness - could not reset the phone (I tried holding all the buttons). OK I'm an Android idiot and I almost gave up - but after 10 min of fooling around somehow I got it to reboot.

At the big prominent rock I found a nice post-Spanish petroglyph but was left wondering where are all the glyphs? Luckily I didn't give up (theme of the day!) and with some more effort I found the nice area with the unique ancient petroglyphs. So it turned out to be a good day. Driving out I thought I'd find a better way by staying on the "best road". Nope [ photo ] . Luckily I had the drive in route in my gps and was able to back-track.
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Mar 27 2021
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 Phoenix, AZ
Lake Pleasant North, AZ 
Lake Pleasant North, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 27 2021
Hansenaz
Hiking3.83 Miles 606 AEG
Hiking3.83 Miles   3 Hrs   17 Mns   1.22 mph
606 ft AEG      9 Mns Break
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I've hiked on the north side of Lake Pleasant Regional Park a couple times but it was a little different today. The Agua Fria was dry and I could drive to parking lot at Boulder Creek. I didn't know this existed and maybe it's not well known, but I saw 5-10 vehicles putting boats in here.

The park was manned by three volunteers who I found friendly and helpful (and forgiving since I couldn't pay the $7 fee - I haven't had any cash for months). They explained that eagle closure rules were in effect (2nd week in a row I'd run into this) and I did my best to comply.

I had information there were petroglyphs in the area and I found some - nothing too impressive until the last one of the day which was nice. Happy ending.
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Mar 20 2021
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 Phoenix, AZ
SE of Horseshoe Lake, AZ 
SE of Horseshoe Lake, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 20 2021
Hansenaz
Hiking6.77 Miles 1,000 AEG
Hiking6.77 Miles   5 Hrs   4 Mns   1.48 mph
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Lots of ancient habitation signs near Horseshoe Lake and along the Verde River. I thought I'd check out a ridge on the east side of the Verde I hadn't been to before - first challenge is getting across the river.

In dry times even my Subaru can drive across the cobbles but the river was flowing today. I parked at a big puddle I could have driven because I knew the main channel was still ahead. The crossing was deep enough to raise my voice an octave but then I was surprised to see several vehicles make it.

The ridge I'd picked was a nice walk but I didn't see any ancient stuff - not a sherd (maybe some flaked stone). The crossing coming back was more exciting: tangled sides and deeper water. I noticed signs as I was coming back saying I was exiting a closed eagle breeding area (I hadn't seen any going in). I can say there are a lot of these signs on the west side of the Verde here, about as many as loud ATVs zooming past them.
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Mar 06 2021
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 Phoenix, AZ
Agua Fria Walk, AZ 
Agua Fria Walk, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 06 2021
Hansenaz
Hiking4.61 Miles 1,079 AEG
Hiking4.61 Miles   4 Hrs   50 Mns   0.99 mph
1,079 ft AEG      11 Mns Break
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Loop hike to a ruin near the Agua Fria. This one gets fewer visits than most and so is more interesting having more artifacts lying about. Still I'm sure it's been plundered and dug (they left the shovels!).

I spent a lot of time looking around but could have spent another couple hours. Fun day!
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Feb 27 2021
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 Phoenix, AZ
Agua Fria Places, AZ 
Agua Fria Places, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Feb 27 2021
Hansenaz
Hiking3.73 Miles 787 AEG
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I caught wind of a couple walled sites near the Agua Fria River that I didn't know about so I went out to have a look.

The first site sits on a narrow hilltop and is just two rooms but has fairly tall walls. It's obviously a fort or lookout since it has good views and showed little sign that people lived there. (I noticed one little pottery piece.) It overlooks the river and the other site I was heading for. Possibly this was a lookout location for the lower habitation site.

While going down the hill I did notice a fair amount of pottery and when I got down to a flat "bench" I decided to look around since it appeared to be a good spot to grow crops. The bench area had a lots of plain pottery scattered about but I didn't find another habitation site.

I looped back to the 2nd target site and it has at least 10 rooms with well-defined walls. It's located on a steep hilltop...you wouldn't pick this place to live unless you wanted to sleep more soundly at night.

Coming down from there I passed a petroglyph and so spent some time walking around the low bench just above river level looking for more. Nice area with quite a few glyphs. Seemed like older ones than others in the area. Good day.
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Feb 20 2021
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 Phoenix, AZ
Oatman Redux, AZ 
Oatman Redux, AZ
 
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Hansenaz
Hiking3.91 Miles 539 AEG
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Return to the Oatman area of the Gila River. I think my more recent pandemic Saturday trips are more "outings" than hikes - just getting out of the house for the day hoping to see something new.

My plan was to check out the "edge" for petroglyphs. I've looked in the general area before but there are places I'd skipped and different "paths" along 1) the top edge, 2) just below the cliff bad at top, and 3) in the rock jumble along the bottom, show different things. I was pretty sure there was more to see.

I first checked a new section on top. I didn't expect much because it had been scarred by vehicle tracks (the pristine sections along the river are so much nicer), but I saw a couple formations that might be ancient. No glyphs though.

I went down to walk along the bottom edge of a section I knew had nice petroglyphs on the top cliff band. I saw an upside down petroglyph which I assume fell down from the top (the crumbling of the top-edge is obvious in many places). I headed up here and when I got near the top I heard some buzzing and simultaneously got a couple stings. Quick and undignified retreat which cost me some skin. Usually I hear the bees in advance and dodge them. Of course the fear is that a bunch of them will come after you, so I was lucky, but I can also report the stings weren't that bad.

Anyway after that I went up and down the big rocks on the hillside and found quite a few new (to me) glyphs. The pictures aren't great - forgot my favorite camera/phone but had my cheap super-zoom - and the light was tough.

Took the fast way back on the top past the Oatman massacre sign, and noticed the old Mormon Battalion track sign. The history here is deeper than I'd realized - apparently the Battalion built a wagon road up from the river to the basalt plain just 4 years before the massacre.
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