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Jun 02 2018
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34 male
 Joined Oct 26 2014
 Chandler, AZ
Mogollon Creek Trail #153Southwest, NM
Southwest, NM
Backpack avatar Jun 02 2018
gilbertnathanielTriplogs 3
Backpack17.18 Miles 3,986 AEG
Backpack17.18 Miles2 Days         
3,986 ft AEG
 
1st trip
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Led an overnight backpacking trip along the Mogollon Creek Trail with a group of 12.

The road in was fairly smooth, though one truck did inexplicably get a flat tire. There was no water flowing at the creek crossing a mile or two short of the trailhead. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it, but you could probably get a sedan to the trailhead. The road was completely fine for anything with high clearance. It should be noted that the official HAZ_Hikebot GPX track does not start at the trailhead and may not be accurate. I am not sure if there is a trail that matches the HAZ_Hikebot track.

Only 26 people had signed in at the trail register since the beginning of the year. Clearly the trail doesn't get much use. The first six miles of trail are largely uphill. This section of the trail was is in surprisingly good condition and shows evidence of recent trail maintenance. Due to the aforementioned flat tire issue, we got a later start than planned. While the temperatures were only in the 80s F, it was definitely hot and exposed. Near the top, there was a nice patch of woods that you could potentially camp in if you were willing to dry camp. Once you crest over the top, you pass through some burned areas and the condition of the trail declines. There are some downed trees to navigate, but nothing posed too much of an issue. The views from this side as you drop down toward Mogollon Creek are great. It's about a 2 mile decent down to the creek. The area along the creek is a bit overgrown. We lost the trail for a bit after reaching the creek, though we were able to follow it for the return trip. The views and scenery once you start dropping into the canyon are great. We camped for the night among the trees near the junction with Teepee Canyon.

Prior to the trip, I had called the Glenwood Ranger Station and the Gila National Monument to inquire about water availability. The rangers I talked to had no idea if the Mogollon Creek would be reliably flowing. I knew that the creek had an endemic Gila Trout population and had been restocked by the forest service, so I assumed it couldn't possibly entirely dry up. That turned out to be correct. It was flowing and there were pools of nice clear water along the section we hiked. There were some small fish that I assume were Gila Trout in the pools.

In the morning we got an early start to beat the heat and hiked out the way we came and back to the cars. Just north of Cliff, that same truck had yet another tire blow out. That resulted in an 8 hour ordeal involving two tow truck companies shuttling it across the state border to Safford where the nearest compatible tires (available on a Sunday) were found.

Overall it was a good trip. If I were to do it again, I would go earlier in the season. I would also try to make it a three day trip to allow for further exploration up canyon. The best scenery occurs after you crest over the top and start dropping into the canyon. I would have liked to have had more time to enjoy it.
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Dec 16 2017
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 Routes 18
 Photos 39
 Triplogs 3

34 male
 Joined Oct 26 2014
 Chandler, AZ
South Canyon RouteNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Backpack avatar Dec 16 2017
gilbertnathanielTriplogs 3
Backpack13.00 Miles 2,588 AEG
Backpack13.00 Miles2 Days         
2,588 ft AEG
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Backpacked the South Canyon Route with a group of 6.

Drove to the trailhead with an Xterra and Crosstrek. Road conditions were good.

The scrambling, exposure, and difficulty of the route was less than I anticipated. The route was well-cairn-ed. Route finding was definitely required, but I never felt the need to check my GPS. You are exposed to notable drop-offs, but the footing and trail width was always reasonable at these points. Salt Trail, as a point of comparison, was more difficult in my opinion.

We camped on the shelf right above the beach to avoid the sand. There was a private rafting group that set up camp on the down-stream end of the beach. They reported that they were 3 days into their trip.

We went and explored Stanton's Cave and Vasey's paradise. The footing getting out to Vasey's Paradise was a bit treacherous, fortunately the wet rock along the river was grippier than it looked.

There were a couple half-frozen pools of water right where we dropped into South Canyon. Sediment in the Colorado was minimal. Temperatures were in the 20s at night, 30s for much of our time spent hiking below the rim, and topped out in the 50s.

Overall it was a great trip. Bit chilly. The scenery was excellent and we got to explore a part of canyon that is otherwise only accessible to rafters.
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Dec 09 2017
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 Routes 18
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34 male
 Joined Oct 26 2014
 Chandler, AZ
Marsh Valley LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Backpack avatar Dec 09 2017
gilbertnathanielTriplogs 3
Backpack19.00 Miles 2,330 AEG
Backpack19.00 Miles2 Days         
2,330 ft AEG
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1st trip
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Backpacked the Marsh Valley loop. Camped near Charlebois Spring. Perfect weather. Excellent trip.

We were warned by rangers of rabid foxes and coyotes. There was a big pool of water at Second Water and several large flowing pools at Charlebois Spring. Use caution at Charlebois; there was a dead fox floating in the lowest pool. There were several large campsites in the immediate vicinity of Charlebois and along Dutchman where it diverges from the Marsh Valley Loop and occasional campsites elsewhere along the loop.
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Several large pools. It's hard to get a good sense of flow rate, but there is plenty of water. Beware, there was a dead fox floating in the lowest pool and there have been reports of rabid foxes in the Superstitions recently.

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Large/deep pool of water. Obvious from trail.
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