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HAZ reminds you to respect the ruins. Please read the Archaeological Resources Protection Act of 1979 & Ruins Etiquette
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Distance Round Trip 8.2 miles
Trailhead Elevation 4,835 feet
Elevation Gain -1,118 feet
Accumulated Gain 1,099 feet
Avg Time Round Trip 5 hours
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Cliff Dwellings!
by HAZ_Hikebot

I almost fear giving out this great hike, but the views are spectacular and the end of the trail holds a great reward. Roger's Canyon Trail will lead you to a pristine cliff dwelling at the end of a 4-mile hike down the canyon trail. Part of the allure and enjoyment of this trail is just getting to the trailhead (you'll start your hike from Rogers Trough trailhead). Your drive in will be packed with great views of the Superstitions, the valley (well at least the east valley), some great rock formations and desert flora. If you're looking for a great Sunday drive to show those visitors from back east the beauty of the desert, this is a great drive in its self. But the hike (over 8 miles round trip) is worth every step.

I cannot stress enough to BRING WATER!!! The trail descends down the canyon to the cliff dwells for 4.1 enjoyable miles. But, remember that what goes down must come up (or something like that). And the hike out is all up hill, and you'll need your water, even if you're a seasoned hiker. On a recent trip one person in our party became partially dehydrated. Lucky for us we had all packed in plenty of water (more than one bottle per person) approximately two large canteens each. The trail leaves the trailhead and travels about 1.6 miles to the junction with Reeves Ranch trailhead. The trails and junction are well marked. The trail drops into Rogers Creek and follows the creek for most of the way to the cliff dwellings. There is an abundance of juniper and manzanita trees along this part of the trail. This means that the trail is shaded for parts of the hike, depending on the time of day.

After leaving the junction it is approximately 2.5 miles to the cliff dwellings (a total of 4.1 miles from the trailhead, so be prepared for the up hill trip back). The dwellings are visible from the trail and there are several there to view. Remember that the Antiquities Act protects these dwellings so treat them with the respect they deserve! They have been there for over 700 years, and we don't want some 20th century moron to destroy them for future generations. So, please explore them, enjoy them, take pictures, imagine what it was like for the people that once lived there, but don't dig around them, and don't climb on the walls or roofs.

Leave only footprints, and only bring back memories of a great hike.

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Rogers Canyon Ruins
Fun Hike today to the Rogers Canyon Ruins. There were 5 or 6 vehicles parked at the Rogers Trough trailhead when we got there at about 10:30. We passed two groups of backpakers on our way to the ruins and another 3 or 4 pairs of hikers. There was another group of hikers at the site when we got there but they were just getting ready to leave so we had the site all to ourselves for the half hour we stayed and explored. The mud that was used for construction seemed extremely hard. Felt more like concrete than mud if you ask me.

Rogers creek had copious amounts of clear running water the entire length of the hike.

The longest part was the drive to the Rogers Trough trailhead. The drive was very scenic and bumpy with lots of ORVs kicking up a of dust on the road. We drove a 2 wheel drive pickup and except for that last hairpin turn (where I had to do a little reversing) we had no problems. I would not attempt this drive without a 4x4 if there was a recent rain or a hint of rain in the forecast
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A small group of us hiked out to the cliff dwellings in Roger's Canyon.

The drive out was long, but scenic. I was able to do it entirely in 2WD in my Ford F-150. When we got to the parking area, we saw other vehicles with less clearance than my truck there. Despite starting early, there were a surprising number of vehicles at the Rogers Trough Trailhead. (I'm sure that several of them had been there overnight.)

The hike in the canyon was also scenic with easy route finding and hiking.

The highlight of this hike is, undoubtedly, the cliff dwellings that can be seen to the right at just over four miles in. The route to the upper room is slightly exposed, but the holds are good and the moves are easy. The structures in that upper level appear to be in mostly good condition, but it was really, really disappointing to see graffiti. I suspect too, that the hole in the roof wasn't due to natural causes.
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My family and I spent three days, two nights in the canyon. It was me, my wife, my daughter, and our dog. Spent one day day hiking in, the next day did a dayhike for water, and hiked back out the third day. The canyon is rugged and gorgeous. Stayed at a nice campsite just past the ruins....

dry dry dry....found two sources of water which was basically two stagnant pools of water...one had a dead horse in it!!!!!glad ours was up "stream".....
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Backpacked Roger's Canyon Ruins (trail #110) with a small group 11/11/2017. The plan was to hike in, explore the ruins, and then camp just beyond at Angel Spring. There were 2 major variables on this trip; whether we could get to the trail head with the available vehicles, and whether any water would be present at the nearby springs.

The first obstacle of getting to the trailhead was neatly handled. Two of the trip participants owned a Jeep Liberty so their vehicles were used for the carpool. To further improve our odds of getting to the trailhead, I researched the available routes and found a report indicating that FR172 had been graded a few years prior and afforded easy access to Woodbury trailhead. The stretch from Woodbury to Roger's Trough (our destination) was reported to be slightly more difficult. Our drive in found those old reports to be largely accurate. The route was easily passable to regular cars until we got past the Woodbury trailhead. There were only a few genuinely rough spots after and the whole route could be managed with a 2wd vehicle of moderate ground clearance in dry weather.

The 2nd variable of water would end up turning our backpacking trip into a day hike despite our best efforts to find a campsite with water. We were well prepared for that possibility with each member of the party carrying 4 liters of water and prepared for the possibility of a hike out the same day

The hike started out easily enough with some early sections of the hike being relatively steep and some slipping on loose gravel was experienced. The were a multitude of creek crossings but all of them were dry. We reached the intersection of Reavis Ranch South (trail #109) 50 minutes after leaving the trailhead and were making good time. The trail was not difficult to follow but was frequently overgrown with thorny vegetation. The members of the party that chose to wear shorts regretted their decision. It did not appear to be a particularly well traveled trail.

We stopped to take a brief rest and eat some lunch just after covering 3 miles. No water was found at Roger's Canyon Spring but the views in this section of the canyon were spectacular. We encountered a few other groups of hikers at this point but the trail was not overly crowded.

Continuing on we soon found ourselves at the ruins. They were not obvious from the trail and a conversation with another hiker is what brought our attention to their exact location. The short path up to the ruins is relatively steep and a placard is there to give some information on the site. A bearing was taken from the main cave which suggest the ruins location I originally had marked on my map was slightly farther east than their actual location.

At first glance there does not appear to be much left of the cliff dwellings. Aside from smoke stains on the walls and a partially collapsed wall there was not much evidence that the cave had been occupied. Further inspection revealed a set of hand and footholds going up an interior cave wall. The holds did not appear to be in rock but rather a surface made from the same mud/mortar material that was used in the stone wall seen nearby. Attempting to use them to ascend was deemed highly risky without protection and likely to cause damage to the historic structure. A sketchy path (probably grade 4 rock) was found that looped around the section with the holds and some careful scrambling revealed a larger cave with a considerably more impressive dwelling in it.

This 2nd floor cave contained a dwelling with 3 rooms. The largest of the three rooms had a mortar covered, flat, thatched roof. The covered room opened up into one of the uncovered rooms which in turn opened up to the rest of the cave. It was not clear whether the 2nd and 3rd rooms were unfinished or were never intended to have a roof. There were not sufficient debris present to suggest that an existing roof collapsed and the slightly lower walls on the open rooms seems to indicate that they never had one. Perhaps the open rooms were for warm weather sleeping with the closed room reserved for winter? At any rate it was fascinating to see such a well preserved and remote piece of history.

As our exploration of the cliff dwellings finished up we began to direct our thoughts towards finding a campsite for the night. Given that the first spring we passed was completely dry, and we had seen no signs of water anywhere along the creek bed, the possibility of there being no water available seemed considerable. I decided to scout ahead with another athletic member of the party to see if the spring at our intended campsite (or any of the springs in the area) were running. That way if there was no water available, and we had to hike back, most of the group would have an opportunity to rest and would be spared an extra 3 miles of hiking with all their gear. So we left our bags with the group, who were still exploring the ruins, and headed out in search of water.

There were two other springs in the area; Angel Spring and Hole Spring. Angel Spring was the closest and according to the topographical map also featured a flat area that would be suitable for camping. There were plenty of good spots for camping. In fact there were several locations with fire pits and logs to sit on but the spring itself was dry. So we continued north to Hole Spring. There was an arete and a series of narrow cliffs to the west of the trail which were well pocketed and might contain additional cliff dwellings. I may explore this area further on a future trip as it appears less well traveled than the earlier parts of the trail. We quickly made it to and past Hole Spring despite the trail being heavily overgrown in several places and forcing us to use the watercourse to proceed for a significant portion of the hike. Hole spring and the entire creek bed was completely dry so we turned back to return the to group with the bad news.

When we arrived back at the ruins we found the rest of the party lounging in hammocks or taking pictures of the fall foliage. They were disappointed to hear that our trip had to be curtailed due to lack of water but I planned to check Roger's Spring on the way back so it was still possible that we might find a suitable campsite for the night. The hike back was not difficult with everyone's pack being ~ 4 lbs lighter due to water consumption. It was getting dark around the time we reached the intersection with Reavis Ranch South and we had to use headlamps to continue on. It also got noticeably colder at this point and extra layers were added by some to keep warm. At this point the trail became steeper and the party needed to stop to rest more frequently.

Seeing that half the party was now proceeding at a slower pace I took the faster portion ahead with the intention of scouting out Roger's Spring for water while the remainder caught up. This worked out nicely as we were able to leave the fast group at the junction of West Pinto (trail #212) to wait for the remainder of the party. Once again I took the most ambitious hiker of the group (who was by now quite footsore) and went in search of a water source. Once again we were disappointed. the hike up the hill was challenging in the dark and the trail was overgrown and difficult to follow once it got into the trees. We were able to find the water pipelines and Roger's spring but it was little more than a muddy puddle. There was also no suitable place in the vicinity to set up camp as the trail was very steep without open or flat areas suitable for tents. Feeling thoroughly defeated we turned back to return to the group, which was completed by the slower members of the party as we were hiking back down to the West Pinto trail junction.

Having failed to find a suitable campsite we returned to Phoenix for a huge dinner as compensation.

On the whole, things went as well as could be expected. The trailhead was easier to get to than anticipated and the route planning for the off-road portion ensured that we got to our intended destination without any trouble. The available data suggested that water might not be available this time of year and everyone carried, and ended up using, their contingency water supplies to hike out the same day. The ruins were intriguing and well worth visiting, I look forward to further expeditions in this area.

When I return to The Superstitions I will bring a few gallons of water and some firewood in the vehicles we drive in. That way we can camp at one of the many car camping spots along the forest road if we end up having to turn a backpacking trip into a day hike due to lack of water.

Link to downloadable topographical maps:
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Link to hike video:
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Foliage
Some trees were displaying fall colors, primarily yellows. probably late in the season.
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What an awesome hike. In my book it ranks up there with West Fork Oak Creek Trail and Horton Creek Trail. Beautiful small waterfalls along most of the trail and the ruins at the end of the trail were outstanding.
The drive up there was also outstanding. We got started a little late on the trail and first finished about an hour before sunset. I had never driven the entire Montana Mountain Loop and on the map it didn't look much longer to just continue and complete the loop since we were already here. Oh boy, was I wrong. That 650 road cutting across was something else. Especially trying to complete it during the last light of the day. Views up there are beautiful too and I will probably try it again when I'm not trying to rush. Only positive was that nobody else were dumb enough to be up there, so I didn't have to try and get around anybody on the single lane road on the side of the mountain that at various points had pretty big pieces missing. Pucker factor was pretty high and I am glad I was in a Jeep.
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Central Supes Loop
Me and Alex headed to the Superstitions to tackle some new areas we haven't visited before. I wanted hit as much new stuff as possible, and I think I did well clocking in at about 75% new trail vs 25% already visited.

I liked Bluff Springs, western end of Peters Trail, JF Trail, and Rogers Canyon. Tortilla Pass to Rogers Trough was the highlight for both of us. Probably won't be visiting Peters Mesa, Woodbury, or Coffee Flats again anytime soon. Alex had similar opinions. We both felt this route was mostly drab and little flash, I probably wouldn't do this route again as it is plotted, I would take the parts I like and combine them with something else.

We checked out the Peralta Map and Rogers Canyon Ruins. Both were well worth the small side trips. Probably the 2 easiest ruins to "find" in the Supes, but still exciting and has us craving more.

The biggest surprise for both of us was how long these fall colors are holding on. Probably another week of good color.

We were fighting against the limited amount daylight the entire trip. Comfortable 20+ mile days this time of year, for me personally, is probably a little too optimistic. 10 hours of daylight, 2 mph, hard to get up early because its cold. You do the math. 15-17 mile per-day would probably be more enjoyable.

Water was not plentiful but the reliable sources are going strong after the rain. Bluff Springs to Kane Spring is pretty wet. Kane Spring to Clove Spring is dry. Pools near Clove Spring. Clove Spring to Reavis Ranch JCT is dry as a bone. Reavis Ranch JCT to Rogers Trough had the most water out of any drainage. Intermittent, varying sized pools along Coffee Flat Trail.

Trail Conditions
Peters Trail generally easy to follow, a couple of hiccups on top of the Mesa and near Tortilla Creek. A few spots of dodging prickly pear and agave on the Mesa, but mostly clean trail.

JF Trail Great trail from Tortilla Creek TH to Hoolie Bacon JCT. Several hiccups along ridge between Clove Spring and Tortilla Pass. Wear long pants.

Rogers Canyon Immaculate from Tortilla Pass to Angel Basin. A little brushy, and a couple hiccups between Roger Canyon Ruins and Reavis Ranch Trail JCT.

Woodbury Trail A couple of hiccups, vague tread at times. Lots of cattle activity...

Coffee Flat Several hiccups, usually just best to follow the wash. Lots of cattle activity...

Foliage
Nice colors at the lowest elevations, near La Barge and along Coffee Flat.
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Interesting hike down a pretty canyon with lots (currently) of flowing water. Lots of stream crossings involving boulder hopping. Riuns are in a series of caves at the destination, and some are very nice. Beautiful cliffs along the way. The wind threatened to blow us away at the beginning, but weather was nice on the return. One member of our party had trouble with the uphill so we stopped frequently on the way back. One important note is that Hewitt Canyon Rd is not in very good shape and very slow; 4WD and high clearance is highly recommended. Took nearly 2 hrs to get to Rogers Trough TH from US 60.

I posted a track but it was very messy and confusing. My Basecamp numbers were 1752 feet aeg, but Joe's routine showed a result of 1307 feet, which is much closer to what it felt like. For some reason, I experienced a lot of signal noise.
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met larry at the trailhead, then the four of us set out for the ruins late morning
reavis ranch trail, then rogers canyon trail
the canyon was very pretty, with some cool rock formations
i don't seek out ruins very often, but enjoy seeing them
it's pretty amazing to see something constructed so long ago
explored all the tiers, three of us climbing up to the sheltered structures
had some lunch in one of the alcoves and headed back
a great hike to start with, a new trail, and some impressive ruins
car camped that night at the trailhead under a full moon
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Kelly, Larry, MJ and I left the trailhead just after 11 on the first hike of our multiday adventure in the Superstitions. Was the first time to the ruins for all four. We wanted to be back at the trailhead before dark to have a chance to set up camp while still spending some time exploring the ruins, so we moved fairly quickly but comfortably down the trail. Lots of water in the upper stretches of Rogers Canyon, but none below the intersection with the Reavis Ranch Trail. We were impressed with the lushness the Canyon floor and the variety of flora. Just a hint of Fall color was peeking through and there were even a very few scattered wild flowers remaining.

Eventually spotted the alcoves housing the Salado Ruins. Climbed up and explored the lower levels. Kelly found the route to the upper ruins. Definitely had a bit of exposure. MJ elected to enjoy the photos when we got home. Kelly assisted Larry and me with the climb. Both Larry and I enjoy ruins, so we were in heaven exploring and photographing these well preserved dwellings. Somehow I doubt my current home will be around 600 years from now. I must say the view up the canyon from the ruins is fantastic. The original residents picked a great place to live.

We had a quick snack on the lower level after a few moments of heart pounding down climb. Thanks again Kelly. MJ went off to find the perfect spot for a bathroom break. She found one slightly outside a half-mile radius. I am so happy to be male.

The hike back is uphill, of course, but we made it back to the vehicles in good time. The ruins had proved a good appetizer to our adventure.

The remainder of the trip is here:http://hikearizona.com...
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Rogers-Frog Tank-Reavis loop
First time on this route, unknown water availability and a solo hike, so went conservative on distance and time. Rogers Canyon was scenic, but a little brushy. Lots of water along Frog tank until it strays from the canyon bottom. Plenty of water at Reavis, but runs out during the ascent to the saddle. Its a great hike, could've finished in 2 days, but then I would have had to go home to the "Honey-do" list...
Saw one group leaving the trail when I arrived, another group getting ready to hike in when I left. No other sightings of human beings during the 3 days!
Camped near Angel Basin on night 1. Some great sites there.
Hiked to Reavis Saddle on day 2 and spent a windy night up on the saddle. Nice campsites, the breeze keeps the flies away.

Wildflowers
Oenothera caespitosa – Tufted Evening Primrose was in full bloom

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To Rogers Trough Trailhead
Take US 60 east out of Apache Junction. A couple miles past Florence Junction turn north onto Queen Valley Road and follow 1.6 miles. Turn right onto FS 357 (Hewlett Station Road) and follow about three miles to FS 172. Turn left onto FS 172 and follow this for 9.1 miles (keep an eye out to your right near the four mile mark for a thin arch) to FS 172A. Turn right onto FS 172A and follow 3.8 miles to the Rogers Trough trailhead. The last mile of FS 172A is definitely four wheel drive due to the washed ruts and some steepness. A high clearance pick up without four wheel drive could probably make it but you'd be in trouble if it rained. Be sure to stop and look over your shoulder. The views are awesome looking down in valley extending below.

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FR 172 - Hewitt Station Road to Rogers Trough TH

From PHX (I-10 & AZ-51) - 68.4 mi, 2 hours 3 mins
From TUC (Jct 1-10 & Grant) - 102 mi, 2 hours 51 mins
From FLG (Jct I-17 & I-40) - 213 mi, 4 hours 19 mins
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