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Nordhoff-Hope Cliff Dwelling/SiteV:1:170, AZ
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Difficulty 1 of 5
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Distance One Way 0.5 miles
Trailhead Elevation 4,838 feet
Elevation Gain -190 feet
Accumulated Gain 425 feet
Avg Time One Way 1 hour
Kokopelli Seeds 1.92
Interest Off Trail Hiking, Ruins & Historic
Author Grasshopper
Descriptions 35
Routes 420
Photos 7,000
Trips 446 map ( 5,085 miles )
Age 71
Location Scottsdale, AZ
Viewed All Mine Following
36  2016-04-09
Ruins Near NF-203a and Cook Creek
13  2014-02-01 Peakster
1  2013-03-11 shouston2
19  2012-04-01 Darth Stiller
20  2012-04-01 Johnnie
12  2011-12-03 MtnBart01
4  2011-12-03 big_load
20  2011-06-15 CannondaleKid
10  2010-05-09
Coon Spring Trail #124
Randal Schulhaus
26  2010-05-09 Grasshopper
15  2007-06-16
Coon Spring Trail #124
Randal Schulhaus
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Wilderness Sierra Ancha
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Sun  6:32am - 5:44pm
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0.3  Waterslides Canyon
0.8  Upper Deep Creek
0.8  Deep Creek Trail #128
0.9  Moody Point Ruins via Deep Creek TR#128
0.9  Sierra Ancha / The Deep : Streak Sector
1.9  Coon Creek Ruins Overlook via FR3368
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William Hope and Walter Nordhoff visited this Sierra Ancha site on November 19, 1880, while conducting a mineral assessment of the area for the United States Geological Survey(USGS). The Nordhoff-Hope 1880 mineral survey is also evident from abandoned mining adits dotted along the very scenic FR203A driving route. Dr. Richard C. Lange has continued the legacy with the Sierra Ancha Project starting in 1983 and continuing to present day.

This short off trail hike (via a defined use trail)is an interesting side trek to an 800 year old Salado Cliff Dwelling estimated to have approximately 20 rooms which included it's possible interconnecting cliff-cave inner rooms. Due to the very tricky ~25-30 foot sheer cliff climbs required to reach the ledge edge for entrance into these more interesting upper cliff dwellings, this visit will have to leave most with just an imagination of what might reside within...

For this off-trail hike, follow the fence line from the old corral area by working you way downhill along the slope on the obvious but overgrown "use trail" heading west towards the Coon Creek drainage. As you start dropping downhill along this "use trail", a cliff will appear to the right containing this cliff dwelling (at way point N33.75372 W110.87736). This is the Nordhoff-Hope Site V:1:170. From the cliff dwelling you have commanding views of the Coon Creek drainage to the west and south.
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    Map Drive
    High Clearance possible when dry

    To hike
    From the Phoenix area: On Hwy 60 in Globe(MP247.0), take State Hwy 188 northwest toward Lake Roosevelt for 14.7mls to its junction with State Hwy 288(MP229.4); turn Right on State Hwy 288 and drive north for 6.7 mls to signed Cherry Creek Rd(FR203); Turn right(east) on maintained, some washboard, gravel road FR203 and drive for 10.2 mls just past cattle guard to junction with signed FR203A; Turn left(north) on high clearance FR203A and follow this very scenic-narrow, ridgeline climbing, seldom maintained FR203A for 5.0 mls (to way point N33.75378 W110.87177); Park just past the cattle guard at old corral on left side of FR203A for this hikes TH Start; Also Note: Parking for the Sierra Ancha "Bull Canyon TH" and the start of Deep Creek TR#128 (see HAZ hike desc- Moody Point Ruins via Deep Creek TR#128) and HAZ- Coon Springs TR#124 are an additional .8ml drive further up FR203A;
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