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Aug 22 2021
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Bear Cyn Main at East Bear FM FR139A- Mogollon, AZ 
Bear Cyn Main at East Bear FM FR139A- Mogollon, AZ
 
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Hiking1.51 Miles 458 AEG
Hiking1.51 Miles   2 Hrs   44 Mns   0.69 mph
458 ft AEG      32 Mns Break
 
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On an eight day Monsoon August'21 Vehicle Camping Trip, this was my second planned "off-trail" dayhike within the Cabin Loop Area of our Mogollon Rim. This day I had plans to reach a very special, scenic section of Bear Canyon Main [ photo ] located between the intersections of Bear Cyn Main at Lwr East Bear Cyn and Bear Cyn Main at Lwr West Bear Canyon.

In previous years I had plotted on HAZ- Route Editor (using the Satellite View and the HAZ Topo View), two different Gps Routes into and back out of this area. Both of which have be less than ideal due to the required bushwhacking, some loose, rocky, steep exposure sections, and just too many down trees requiring difficult navigation out and back. For this August'21 attempt, I again viewed our HAZ- Route Editor Map/Satellite options and came up with a new third Gps planning route out and back. This third route would head in from an easy to access Park/TH Start only a short drive down FR139A (see posted Gps Route) and enter Bear Canyon Main only a short distance from the intersection of Bear Canyon Main at Lower East Bear Canyon.

Well, this third route out and back had a nice, shaded Park/TH Start location :) but my planned "off-trail" Gps Route in was a real mess with the bushwhacking and exposure being even worse than my previous two routes :( Being alone on this hike with concerns of safely exiting back UP, I decided to only hike to the lower start of the section I had planned to visit up from Bear Canyon Main at Lower East Bear Canyon X.

So, not recommended!

My posted photoset with captions tells the story best. Hopefully, a fourth off-trail route plan attempt to next time hike in from a Park/TH Start off of FR95, will hopefully be the best solution. Still TBD..
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Aug 20 2021
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Maverick Cyn Spur Maples - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Hiking1.90 Miles 210 AEG
Hiking1.90 Miles   2 Hrs   30 Mns   0.76 mph
210 ft AEG
 
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This very pleasant short, scenic, and easy to off-trail navigate hike within the area of our Mogollon Rim- Cabin Loop Trails, has been on my "to check out list" for almost a year now.

As part of a 7 night/8 day planned AZ Monsoon Season vehicle camping/hiking trip, today was my day to checkout and view this new (to me) area for a hopeful return hiking trip during our upcoming Prime Autumn Season.

I confirmed within a 0.7 mile hike in, this Spur Canyon Drainage off of Maverick Canyon, has some of the largest continuous stands of [ Bigtooth Maple ] that I have previously viewed within our Mogollon Rim - Cabin Loop Area :DANCE:

I was impressed with my "out of season" first viewing visit and thought a new HAZ- Hike Guide was in-order to further document for all interested to also enjoy.
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Aug 17 2021
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Camp Grasshopper - Mogollon Rim-C/Site#3Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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It had been two months since my last, but shorter week camping / hiking trip to our Mogollon Rim and I was much looking forward to a return, longer 7 night / 8 day (8/17 to 8/24) visit during our very active AZ Monsoon Season this August'21.

I arrived on a Tuesday at 10:30am and with storm clouds already churning, I immediately needed to hustle setting up my always over-the-top and time consuming Camp G/H Campsite. Fortunately I managed to have my two main shelters (Tent and 10x10 Kitchen Screenhouse) up before the sky let loose at 2:30pm and really hardly let up at all for the next twenty-four hours. Except for the off and on overnight and early next morning lighting strikes (one at 6:15am too close for comfort :o ), it was a wonderful first night of R & R :zzz:

I only had two short, close area, day hikes planned for my entire six full days of camping and I was good with that. I am better than most at just tinkering around a camp area and never being bored doing so. At almost age 76 now and slowing down, it was a joy being able to camp for eight days and having really no time schedule to adhere to.

I do believe that I would just live here if I could find a way to keep the ice from not melting and I had a ready supply of fresh H2O :D
(I'm certain in a short period of time I would miss a few other life essentials that I now take for granted, but presently camp ice and water is what mainly gates the length of my trips)
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Jun 19 2021
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 Scottsdale, AZ
M-Rim FR398End2W BearLwr2MainBearExplore, AZ 
M-Rim FR398End2W BearLwr2MainBearExplore, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jun 19 2021
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Hiking3.00 Miles 350 AEG
Hiking3.00 Miles   4 Hrs   10 Mns   0.72 mph
350 ft AEG
 
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This was our (my visiting TX Granddaughter and my) third full day (day 4) of a planned 4nt/5day camping-hiking trip to our Mogollon Rim- The Cabin Loop hiking area.

I first hiked to this awesome riparian, less visited, more secluded, and more difficult to directly access section of Bear Canyon Main/Lower West Bear Canyon on 9/28/14 [ photoset ] while vehicle camping on FR398 for an Autumn area week visit.

Since 2014, the off-trail access route that I had plotted and then followed had either become more difficult through the years or either I had slowed down-aged a lot or maybe both :D Anyway, this really special section of Bear Canyon Main had left a good impression on me through the years and now with my Texas Granddaughter visiting me for a long week this June'21, I wanted to share the area with her for a return visit this ~7 years later.

As I previously alluded too, I have yet to find an easy (with minimal bushwhacking & without a lot of miles for an old guy) off-trail hike route to access this special section of Bear Canyon but access via this posted 6/19 Gps Route or via West Bear Canyon or via East Bear Canyon, this awesome section of Bear Canyon Main is worth the effort :DANCE:

It was a great choice for our last full hike day before needing to depart back to my place in South Scottsdale on June 20th.

I should note that my posted 6/19 Gps Route has some pertinent "Information Notes" posted on it that bare repeating here if considering downloading and following:
Please Note:
This GPS Route and Stats does not clearly provide the serious "off-trail" bushwhacking/route finding required from TH Start until entering W. Bear Cyn Lower at Upper Bear intersection. Nor does it clearly provide the serious "off-trail" bushwhacking/route finding required on the return hike up Lower W. Bear Canyon to TH Start.

This posted Gps hike route is correct, but it is missing the needed route detail due to not including enough posted track points (my Garmin GPS Receiver was set on the wrong recording method option and wrong interval option).
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Bear Canyon West Bear Canyon
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Jun 18 2021
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 Scottsdale, AZ
M-Rim-DaneCynLOOP fm 321A-TH, AZ 
M-Rim-DaneCynLOOP fm 321A-TH, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jun 18 2021
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Hiking6.50 Miles 746 AEG
Hiking6.50 Miles   5 Hrs   45 Mns   1.13 mph
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This was our (my visiting TX Granddaughter and my) second full day (day 3) of a planned 4nt/5day camping-hiking trip to our Mogollon Rim- The Cabin Loop hiking area.

This partial off-trail and on-trail ~6.5 mile loop hike which begins at the back entrance Park/TH Start to Perennial Dane Spring on FR321A, is one of my very favorite Cabin Loop area hike sections. The off-trail Dane Canyon Drainage section of this hike at ~2.3mls in distance is exceptionally nice with relatively easy navigation hiking up the canyon with beautiful canyon views, water, and a whole lot of solitude. Also, there are various options for nice backpack campsites with lots of privacy hiking up the canyon drainage. On my posted Gps Route with all "key" waypoints noted, I did include one backpack campsite location (see WP) that caught my attention for a good overnight choice.

It should also be noted that even though the off-trail navigation within this section of Dane Canyon is not difficult, the off-trail drainage entrance route from the U-Bar Tr #28 and especially the off-trail drainage exit route out of the canyon UP to intersect closed to vehicle traffic FR9616B requires some decent navigation skills and ideally downloading my posted Gps Route and following it closely at an ~80ft to 120ft interval level. It goes UP and there is downfall to navigate over, under, and around before reaching the more open top.

Kudos also to my amAZing Granddaughter on a very successful (no falls and no blood loss), always smiling, and first time ever more involved off-trail loop hike like this one.. :yr: still!!
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Jun 17 2021
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M-Rim-FR139C-Out-Back Merritt Draw-Merritt Spr, AZ 
M-Rim-FR139C-Out-Back Merritt Draw-Merritt Spr, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jun 17 2021
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Hiking1.80 Miles 217 AEG
Hiking1.80 Miles   1 Hour   45 Mns   1.03 mph
217 ft AEG
 
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This was our first full day (day 2) of a planned 4nt/5day camping-hiking trip to our Mogollon Rim.

From Camp Grasshopper, I always enjoy this out and back hike to the Merritt Draw Riparian Area with a continuing short off-trail to check out Historic and Perennial Merritt Spring Box.

This day I was especially looking forward to our hike here as it would give me the opportunity to show my visiting TX Granddaughter how to correctly use a water filter at a spring source like Merritt Spring. She passed with flying colors and is now the proud owner of my old, but still new MSR Waterworks Ceramic Water Filter! Hopefully, she will have more valuable use with it than I ever did :D
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No water flow outside Spring Box this visit but ~2" deep of H2O in accessible Spring Box (best to use an extension tube type filter, like an MSR to access water within Spring Box).
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Jun 16 2021
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Camp Grasshopper - Mogollon Rim-C/Site#3Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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My middle Granddaughter from TX, now a Sophomore at The University of Arkansas (a Razorback 🙌) and hopefully to soon be accepted in their highly accredited School of Nursing, has been interested for a few years in visiting her Grandpa in AZ for a planned summer week "Camp Grasshopper" Camping/Hiking Trip to our Mogollon Rim. This would be her very first ever- remote, primitive, multi-night tent camping trip in the woods at 7435ft elevation :)

We began planning this trip over nine months ago which gave me plenty of time to deal with all the necessary planning, logistics, and gathering for her of all the necessary duplication of additional vehicle camping and hiking gear to hopefully assure a safe, fun, rewarding, and successful week trip to my Arizona high country most favorite place to camp and hike this time of year.

Airplane tickets to AZ were confirmed about 5 weeks prior-to our planned Mogollon Rim exit early morning on Wed-6/16 and we had numerous text and phone conversations to further confirm other necessary details. My biggest concern for a successful trip was whether or not the Coconino NF might close the forest due to extreme fire danger. As the weeks passed prior-to my Granddaughter's arrival on Mon-6/14, I watched the forest fire restrictions go from Stage 1, then to Stage 2 :sweat:

Also, we would need two vehicles for this trip- my older Toyota 4Runner fully loaded with all my normal camping/hiking stuff + I needed to coordinate borrowing my old, highly modified '92YJ Jeep Wrangler (the original "Grasshopper") that I had gifted to some local good friends of mine back in YR2016. The plan was that I would drive my old, open "Grasshopper" (without a spare tire and with the 4 tires on the ground being at least 15+ years old) and my Granddaughter would drive my 4Runner behind me for the trip up and back. For a first time, she would also be driving 16 miles of off-pavement, narrow with blind turns Rim Road (FR300) 8-[ .

Our departure date for the Mogollon Rim on 6/16am arrived with the Coconino NF still at Stage 2, but this very same afternoon, after our safe late morning arrival at Camp Grasshopper #3, the lighting ignited Backbone Wild Fire with high winds erupted this same day 12 miles West of Strawberry, AZ (at the [ Ikes Backbone ] area).

We had an awesome, outstanding 4nts/5days camping, R&R, good food, and valuable time together sharing wonderful memories (new and old) which included 2.5 days of hiking.. three different on trail and off trail hike areas that I was looking forward to introducing to my Granddaughter. I am so very impressed with her much appreciated help around the campsite (setup/teardown/pack up) and her natural hiking ability on and off trail with a great sense of humor when things did not go as planned. For a first time extended stay, primitive camping/hiking trip, Granddaughter--> :yr:

On our exit day, Sun-6/20, all our preferred exit routes back home (Hwy 87 and Hwy 260) were closed due to the still raging Backbone Wild Fire. We exited the Rim on the only route available which was to continue an additional 32 miles South and East on the Rim Road to Woods Canyon Lake at Hwy 260 then West to Payson to Hwy 87 South.. We stopped in Payson for Mexican Food and Ice Tea before I had to endure 116F driving the open Grasshopper Jeep back to South Scottsdale. I was pretty much wasted upon home arrival with two loaded vehicles in our outside furnace that needed unloading.. without even me asking for help, my Granddaughter proceeded to unload both :worthy: thank you!

This trip was meant to be and timing was everything. As it turned-out, our planned trip return was on 6/20 and on 6/23 the Coconino National Forest went to a Stage 3 status which closed the entire NF.
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Mar 24 2021
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Upr Indian Camp Canyon Crk Explore 2, AZ 
Upr Indian Camp Canyon Crk Explore 2, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 24 2021
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Hiking2.00 Miles 197 AEG
Hiking2.00 Miles   1 Hour   30 Mns   1.33 mph
197 ft AEG
 
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Our last full day of eight (from 3/18 to 3/25) and due to a bad weather morning starting off at 5734ft (cold, rain, and snow flurries) until after 9am to start breakfast, we had a later start out of camp.

Fortunately, all we had planned for this day was to do some additional exploring down Upper Indian Camp Canyon Creek to check out some possible areas out of the creek, on higher ground that might offer some possibilities for Ancient Dwelling Sites.

A leisurely, short day of exploring within one mile off-trail, down creek and only 1.3 miles from our Camp G/H- Redman Mesa campsite.
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Mar 22 2021
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Greenback Peak 6535 from Dupont Cabin, AZ 
Greenback Peak 6535 from Dupont Cabin, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 22 2021
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Hiking5.20 Miles 1,357 AEG
Hiking5.20 Miles   5 Hrs   42 Mns   1.05 mph
1,357 ft AEG      45 Mns Break
 
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This day five of an eight day Vehicle Camping / Hike Exploration trip camping at Camp GH- Redman Mesa was our chosen day to summit off-trail Greenback Peak at 6535ft. Since our arrival on Thurs-4/18, the 4WD roads from our campsite area to historic Dupont Cabin had now dried-out enough from rains and snow earlier in the week.

This remote, interesting, historic, and very scenic 6535 feet peak summit that borders our Tonto National Forest- Salome Wilderness, first peeked my interest in April-2011 [ photo ] when HAZ-ssk44 (Eric) and I hiked the Dupont Rim deathmarch loop from Dupont Cabin.

With some minor exception to HAZ- @PrestonSands Official Gps Route, our todays hike in to summit was from the Dupont Cabin and on our return from the summit, we hiked a no longer used two track off of FR2731 (with some bushwhacking required), to safely complete (I was questioning [ photo ] ? ) a lollypop loop back to Dupont Cabin.

Happy to finally mark this remote summit off the "to do" list and to find out what all was up there which also included some outstanding near and distant Salome Wilderness and Sierra Ancha Wilderness views 👍
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Mar 21 2021
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Upr Indian Camp Canyon Crk Explore 1, AZ 
Upr Indian Camp Canyon Crk Explore 1, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 21 2021
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Hiking2.70 Miles 207 AEG
Hiking2.70 Miles   2 Hrs   45 Mns   0.98 mph
207 ft AEG
 
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This was Day 4 of 8 of Oregon_Hiker and my planned Vehicle Camping / Hike Explore trip to the remote and scenic Redman Mesa area which borders the Salome Wilderness in our vast Tonto National Forest.

Due to extremely wet (mud and snow) area road conditions on our arrival day 3/18/21, we decided to explore close to our camp for a few days to allow the roads to dry some for needed later in the week 4WDing to reach some planned, further away THs. We also needed to cancel one of our more challenging off-trail day hikes for the week due to earlier confirmed road access concerns, so this very pleasant, scenic, and easy to navigate unplanned "Upper Indian Camp Canyon Creek Hike" with some flowing water and interesting geology was a nice surprise :)
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Mar 20 2021
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 Scottsdale, AZ
J R Ranch Views from Buckaroo Flats, AZ 
J R Ranch Views from Buckaroo Flats, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 20 2021
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Hiking0.50 Miles 55 AEG
Hiking0.50 Miles   15 Hrs      0.03 mph
55 ft AEG      20 Mns Break
 
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This was our scheduled drive and short off-trail exploratory view hike #2 on the third day of an eight day vehicle camping trip to the remote Redman Mesa area, eight miles drive in from the Young Highway- Hwy 288.

The historic and interesting [ J R Ranch - Copper Mtn 7.5 Topo ] property has intrigued Oregon_Hiker and myself ever since our first daytrip visit 11/26/2018 to this very remote, historic, and scenic area bordering the Salome Wilderness.

On our first week camping/hiking visit to this Redman Mesa area in April'19, we had many long distance views to the J R Property from the NE facing side, but not any close-up views (without zoom) from the NW facing side.

This day was our opportunity to solve that mystery and we did :)
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Mar 20 2021
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Middle Mtn Explore - NW Sierra Ancha, AZ 
Middle Mtn Explore - NW Sierra Ancha, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 20 2021
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Hiking2.40 Miles 276 AEG
Hiking2.40 Miles   2 Hrs   30 Mns   0.96 mph
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Including our arrival/vehicle camp setup day, this was Day 3 of our planned 8 day camp/hike explore trip return to
[ Camp Grasshopper- Redman Mesa- Sierra Ancha NW ] area, bordering the Salome Wilderness and NW Sierra Ancha.

This planned trip visit is an awesome, remote area to vehicle camp and explore in the AZ Springtime was our "Plan B" and not decided until mid-February'21. We followed the HAZ- National Weather Service Point Forecast daily for this area (at 5734ft elevation) into mid-March as our originally planned camp arrival dates were closer. It continued to be cold, wet, with wind and snow in the forecast for days right up to our two day delayed arrival date on Thurs-3/18.

Due to the area wetness on this second visit (first was April'19) and our need to do a lot more area 4WDing to reach our planned hike Parking and TH Starts, we really needed a few days for the roads to dry-out some, so we stayed relatively close to camp for our initial planned hikes on the first three days. I first needed a few easy, leg stretcher hikes anyway since I had basically done nothing for exercise since Dec'20 and that was minimal 8-[

Oregon_Hiker and I had two different relatively short driving hikes planned for this day. This first morning hike at Middle Mountain and off 4WD FR236 was to explore up an old Uranium Mining Road visible only on Google Earth, and most likely not known to many other area travelers.

It was just what I needed- remote, easy to navigate, short, and with scenic near and distant views, plus historical value :D
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Mar 19 2021
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Cataract Canyon Views - FR486, AZ 
Cataract Canyon Views - FR486, AZ
 
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Hiking0.60 Miles 63 AEG
Hiking0.60 Miles   1 Hour   20 Mns   0.45 mph
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This remote, less visited [ Cataract Canyon ] is located in the North section of our Tonto National Forest, bordering the Salome Wilderness, 8+ miles in and off of Hwy288 (the Young Highway) requiring some roads with 4WD to access.

This was Oregon_Hiker and my first planned (day 2 of an ~8 day vehicle camping/hike exploration trip), a very short drive and off-trail hike from FR486 to a bluff / cliffs area to check-out the 8) views.
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Mar 18 2021
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Camp Grasshopper- Redman Mesa- Sierra Ancha NWGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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It had been a long ~six months since my last Camp Grasshopper Vehicle Camping / Hike Explore trip.

Originally, this early Spring'21 trip was planned for the remote Salome Wilderness - Thompson Mesa area at 4700ft elevation, but after a long day pre-trip 4WD in mid-February to confirm if we could safely drive out and back for a week period, it was decided we had better not risk it with my fully loaded and older 4-Runner :sweat: .

Our Plan B was to revisit for 7 nights / 8 days the even more remote, scenic, historic, and interesting Redman Mesa area (also bordering the Salome Wilderness, but from the north). For early Spring, this excellent Camp Grasshopper area (SW of Young, AZ, eight remote 4WD miles in off of Hwy 288) added an additional 1000ft camp elevation. This meant for me, colder nights/early mornings to prepare for with more risk of rain, muddy roads to drive, and possible snow. Mother Nature rules in our Wilderness and as it turned-out, she presented us with it all to include some beautiful hiking days as well.

This eight day trip included (for me) two full days of driving to/back home, Camp GH setup/teardown-pack which would allow me six days of area hike exploring and/or R&R Camp days which I also enjoy. Enjoyment of Camp GH cooking/cleaning was also a high priority for me, as always :D

On Oregon_Hiker and my first week trip visit here in April'19, we kind-of concluded that we had exhausted the local area of interesting off-trail hike exploring, but after some additional Google Earth viewing, we quickly came up with another full weeks worth of interesting, new areas (for us) to explore only requiring more 4WDing to reach our planned off-trail TH Starts.

Of the six full days I had available to hike-explore with Oregon_Hiker, I enjoyed staying in camp for a total of 2 days of the 6. One of the two was a bad weather day (for me) to include some cold on and off rain with snow showers at our 5734ft elevation campsite [ image ]

Larry and I had two "big bang" 4WDing and off-trail day hikes planned for this trip, the first of which we had 4WD clearance, safety issue concerns getting to the Park/TH Start, so we had to scrap that hike plan for now, but our second was a very rewarding and incredibly scenic, historic, PrestonSands'- :next: [ Greenback Peak ] We did a little different twist on the route to summit at 6535ft by beginning/ending our hike at the historic Dupont Cabin.

This trip we also had time to more fully explore and view and hike the lesser known and visited rugged and scenic Indian Camp Canyon Creek and on different days we enjoyed additional views from a new location of the very mysterious J R Ranch Complex- :next: [ J R Ranch - Copper Mtn 7.5 Topo ]

On exit day-3/25/21, our trip would not be complete without a celebration stop for lunch in Miami at [ image ] 👍
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Feb 19 2021
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4x4 Scenic Drive to Thompson Mesa- Salome Wild, AZ 
4x4 Scenic Drive to Thompson Mesa- Salome Wild, AZ
 
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4x4 Trip17.64 Miles 3,151 AEG
4x4 Trip17.64 Miles   13 Hrs   35 Mns   1.30 mph
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In March'08 and March'10 I visited this area for two very enjoyable long drive - dayhike trips to do the [ Boyer Cabin Trail #148 ] and the [ Boyer Ridge ] .

Oregon_Hiker and I had been planning over two prior months for another early Spring'21 seven to eight day vehicle camping / hike exploration trip back (a third visit for me - a first for O/H) to this Tonto National Forest scenic, remote, rugged, and historic ranching area which bordered the Salome Wilderness in the high foothills, northeast of Roosevelt Lake.

Since March'08, the drive out and back to this Thompson Mesa area had always been a challenging stock 4WD vehicle trip, but generally safely doable in a capable, stock 4WD Vehicle with quality off-road tires, high clearance, and with an experienced off-road driver behind the wheel.

After the recent completion of our two months of planning for this soon upcoming full week trip, Oregon_Hiker and I still had a few concerns related to road conditions and campsite location options. O/H was mostly concerned about road conditions and I was mostly concerned about locating a suitable enough new "Camp Grasshopper" location. Fortunately, we decided to first do this 2/19/21 long day out and back scouting trip and a very smart decision it was as after, we needed to cancel our plans for our upcoming full week trip to here [ photo ] :o

For the rest of our well documented day out, and before attempting this now serious 4WD day to Thompson Mesa, please read Oregon_Hiker [ triplog ] with relative comments, photoset, and please review my posted Gps drive route above and linked here with important road, waypoint comments [ gps route ] .

In hindsight, the moral to this enjoyable but very challenging day is..
The First Rule of the Wilderness applies: NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING! :D

On our four+ hour drive back home, we took a welcomed break for dinner in Miami at the always satisfying [ image ] .
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Dec 14 2020
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Western Sierra Ancha Foothills, AZ 
Western Sierra Ancha Foothills, AZ
 
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Hiking2.23 Miles 683 AEG
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683 ft AEG   1 Hour   12 Mns Break
 
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This large and remote Tonto National Forest area, NE of Roosevelt Lake and North of FR60 (A-Cross Road) that runs between the Sierra Ancha-Young Highway 288 and Pumpkin Center is known for its ranching history, ancient Native American history, some very challenging 4WD roads which provide a few official F/S trails with a huge amount of off-trail hike exploring available and very scenic driving if you are in the right 4WD vehicle.

Between early Spring of 2008 and Spring 2010 with HAZ-topohiker(Ken) and HAZ-ssk44 (Eric), I spent some very enjoyable time exploring in this area and had not been back since March-2010.

This long overdue return visit was prompted by Eric's early September'2020 interesting Google Earth find of another potential, lesser known, ancient Native American Ruin Site that had HAZ-Oregon_Hiker (Larry) and my name written all over it :) See our posted, geocoded photosets with captions for more details.

There are a couple of drive options North off of FR60 (A-Cross Road) to access this area where we needed to be. The access road we chose to drive in Larry's FJ Cruiser was FR97 with less off-road driving miles but requires a vehicle with high clearance, real 4WD (no Subaru's), off-road quality tires, and at least one locker recommended. The other driving option route North off of FR60 is to continue further NW on FR60 to intersect FR895 North (the scenic and historic Thompson Mesa Road). This FR895 drive option North to a second trailhead hiking option would require a capable 4WD, high clearance vehicle with quality off-road tires.

For anyone interested in visiting this remote, less visited hiking area, I spent some time on HAZ- Route Cloud editing all the recommended drive, hike, and key waypoint details. Here they are for just this hike: [ Western Sierra Ancha Foothills :: map ]

Also Note:
For the FR895 scenic and historic Thompson Mesa area drive, we have a HAZ Hike Guide for [ Boyer Cabin Trail #148 ] 👍 and [ Boyer Ridge ] 👍
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Nov 17 2020
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Byous ButteGlobe, AZ
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This was a planned just "Get-Out-Of-Dodge" day to relax some in the outdoors and to reminisce at one of my (for many years) most popular areas to vehicle group camp in the early Spring, Christmas, New Years, and off-trail hike explore. Through the years including this day trip , I have been here a total of 20 times :o
Lots of memories! [ photo ]

Unfortunately for hiking today, it was a mid-November record breaking heat day at the Byous Butte area. The whole area on the drive in is presently extremely dry with some previously torched areas which was very disappointing to see.

With the unseasonable hot temperatures today with full sun exposure, our off-trail, required route finding navigation skills to summit the first of three Byous Butte Saddles at 3333 feet lost it's appeal very quickly :(

So after a short .5 mile off-trail hike in and back to my old campsite area for better views of Byous Butte under a small, minimal shaded mesquite bush, BLK and I opted for lunch and more reminiscing of better times.
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Oct 05 2020
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West Bear Canyon (Minimal Autumn), AZ 
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Hiking2.40 Miles 240 AEG
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Well, HAZ @outdoor_lover did this same hike on 9/29 and reported back almost no Autumn Colors :( I was planning an 8 day / 7 night camping/hiking trip starting Wed-9/30 from a little further down FR300 and had planned one day to include this hike as one of my primary choices to score prime Big Tooth Maple colors.

So, being the over-the-top planner I am, I delayed my hike here almost a full week to hopefully assure :FG: Oh well, still a beautiful, peaceful, and enjoyable day and location to hike!
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Autumn - Color Foliage
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Should be Prime Autumn Big Tooth Maple Colors ~from the week of 10/12-10/18
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Mogollon Rim Viewpoints Loop - via 300D-300LPayson, AZ
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Hiking2.80 Miles 270 AEG
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On an 8 day / 7 night area vehicle camping and Autumn hiking trip, these two track roads and off-trail scenic Mogollon Rim Viewpoints hike, is an excellent add-on hike choice when also planning a dayhike to adjacent West Bear Canyon.

It should be noted that two track roads FR300D and FR300L that access this area from the intersection of FR300/FR398 are no longer legal to vehicle drive.
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Oct 04 2020
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GH C-Site to Merritt Draw Riparian-Merritt Spr, AZ 
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MY third and short hike of a seven night / eight day Mogollon Rim Autumn Camping trip down FR139C. Hiking from my campsite, it's always a good choice on an extended week trip, to visit scenic and usually quiet, peaceful "Merritt Draw Riparian Area" to include a short hike to reliable, perennial Merritt Spring.

HAZ- blk and I hiked back to camp from Merritt Draw Riparian Area to be greeted by HAZ- Oregon_Hiker [ photo ] for some wild tales from his just completed over two weeks of adventures, hiking and vehicle camping in the Colorado high country in prime Autumn. He camped with us for 4days/3nights. We did two area day hikes together on 10/5 and we both exited for home on Wed-10/7/20.
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Merritt Draw Merritt Spring

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Merritt Spring Dripping Dripping
This visit, reliable, perennial Merritt Spring was actually more than dripping, was seeping outside of the Spring Box;
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