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Little LO Spring Canyon, AZ

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Canyons are inherently risky. Flash floods occur without notice on sunny days. Technical skills & surrounding topography knowledge required yet does not eliminate risk.
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Difficulty 3.5 of 5
Route Finding 2 of 5
Distance Loop 6.2 miles
Trailhead Elevation 6,801 feet
Elevation Gain -1,400 feet
Accumulated Gain 1,800 feet
Avg Time Round Trip 4-7 hrs
Kokopelli Seeds 15.2
Interest Off Trail Hiking & Seasonal Creek
Backpack No
Dogs not allowed
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3  2011-08-27 toddak
30  2011-06-19 Vaporman
46  2010-08-22 Vaporman
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Preferred   Apr, May, Sep, Oct → 8 AM
Seasons   Late Spring to Late Autumn
Sun  7:03am - 5:21pm
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Kelsey & Little LO Trails
Kelsey & Little LO Trails
0.8 mi away
3.0 mi
-1,500 ft
Kelsey Springs Trail #3
0.8 mi away
5.3 mi
941 ft
Babe's Hole Spring Canyon
0.8 mi away
4.0 mi
-1,510 ft
Dorsey Spring Trail #7
1.0 mi away
2.5 mi
158 ft
Hog Hill Trail #133
Hog Hill Trail #133
1.2 mi away
2.3 mi
171 ft
Little LO Trail #6
1.9 mi away
0.9 mi
875 ft
Winter Cabin Canyon
Winter Cabin Canyon
3.5 mi away
10.7 mi
2,450 ft
Winter Cabin Trail #70
Winter Cabin Trail #70
3.5 mi away
5.5 mi
2,341 ft
Casner Cabin Draw
Casner Cabin Draw
3.6 mi away
10.5 mi
1,100 ft
Ott Lake Trail #70B
3.9 mi away
0.2 mi
37 ft
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by nonot

Overview: An R rated technical canyoneering route into Sycamore canyon containing 1-2 keeper potholes.

Warning: Canyoneering involves slot canyons, be careful to check the weather before you go and do not if there is any chance of rain. Since this is a techincal trip, you will need: HELMET!, harness, and rappelling device. You may need up to 100 ft of rope, 1-7 rap rings, and 20-100 ft of webbing. In spring or fall, wetsuits will be desirable, however they are not needed in summer (July-September).


This is NOT a beginner canyon - you will also need specialize keeper exit technique (see below).

DANGER: This canyon contains 1-2 keeper potholes, the first of which (when water is low) cannot be done alone. Furthermore, due to the make-up of the other side of the keeper, throw bags are very ineffective, being that they simply slide up the other side of the smooth chute. Since throw bags do not work, the current best recommendation is to travel with a group of 3 or more, using the partner assist technique. The last person may need ascending gear or else two strong buddies to dead haul his bulk (not easy!) when the keeper is low.

History: Canyon is described in Todd Martin's "Arizona: Technical Canyoneering". The author must have been a novice at his first attempt of this canyon, for he writes that he pulled his rope before realizing exit from the keeper pothole may not have been possible - do NOT repeat this error. The author indicates he may have been the first party to attempt the canyon.

Hike: From Kelsey TH, walk east and onto FR527A until it crosses a canyon headed northwest. Head down this canyon, which is a bit of a thrash until you reach a junction with Little Lookout Canyon. There are no technical obstacles on the way to the junction. The junction here is rather interesting and the slot forms nearly immediately. Begin descending into Little Lookout until you reach a chute that ends in a large pool. Stop here and drop your gear - heading a bit high on canyon right will let you get to a place that you can look down into the pool exit. If the water does not reach the rim of the pothole, the pothole is in serious keeper conditions.

On our visit, the water was 6 ft below the rim. Currently the exit has some rocks in the area underneath the water that may help to get a stance, but the lip was still well out of reach of a 6 ft man with outstretched arms.

Be cautious - if you are unprepared to deal with a keeper turn around now, or else consider bypassing the keeper by rappelling from a tree on canyon right past the obstacle. otherwise return to the slot and downclimb the chute into the keeper, the last 5-6 ft of which is too vertically sloped to allow for exit without a rope. (Note: in wetter conditions, the chute may be too slippery - making rappelling a safer option here). Do not pull the rope until your party has gained a stance out of the keeper! After you enter the pool, you must deal with the keeper (when water is low.) Throw bags proved ineffective due to the slippery slope on the other side. A partner assist currently works best for this obstacle.

Immediately on the other side of this obstacle is another semi-keeper - it is definitely a keeper at the exit, but a fault will also allow a scrambling exit out from the left side, making the keeper escape optional. Another chute can be downclimbed at the exit of this keeper (or rappelled in slippery conditions). From here there are numerous challenging downclimbs/rappels. There are many anchors, but we downclimbed all but one. Our one and only rappel in this canyon - a shear rappel of 18 ft into knee deep water - was an ankle breaker for sure if one thought to foolishly jump.

From here is more downclimbing (optional rappelling) until you reach the bottom of Little Lookout as it joins Sycamore Canyon. Shortly before Sycamore canyon itself is the exit trail (Little LO #6) on your left. Proceed 70 ft from the Little LO streambed to the trail junction and head up the trail. A little further along the trail (meaning you missed the place the Little LO #6 trail ascends) is the refreshing Geronimo Springs - a godsend on a hot summer day.

Head up the trail, you will come to the intersection of Kelsey Trail - turn left and climb. You will hit Babes Hole Spring - another nice cool-off spot on a hot summer day. Continue climbing to the rim and the TH.

Water Sources: Babes Hole Spring and Geronimo Spring make the practical water sources for this trip - Kelsey Spring is a swampy area.

Camping: On the rim - several options near Kelsey TH.

Tip: Strong, experienced parties can do Little LO and Babes Hole in a single day (7-9 hrs total)

nonot
    WARNING! Hiking and outdoor related sports can be dangerous. Be responsible and prepare for the trip. Study the area you are entering and plan accordingly. Dress for the current and unexpected weather changes. Take plenty of water. Never go alone. Make an itinerary with your plan(s), route(s), destination(s) and expected return time. Give your itinerary to trusted family and/or friends.

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    Directions
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    High Clearance possible when dry

    To canyon trip
    From Flagstaff - head west on route 66 and then south on Woody Mountain Rd. At the junction of FR538 and FR231 (WMR) turn right onto FR538. At the sign that points to Kelsey and Dorsey TH, turn right onto FR538E and towards Kelsey TH, staying straight onto FR538G. Arrive at Kelsey TH (sometimes called Little Lookout TH.) Once you leave FR538 the last few miles are high clearance.
    page created by nonot on Aug 28 2011 8:52 pm
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