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Fisher Trail #230, AZ

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Difficulty 4 of 5
Route Finding 4 of 5
Distance One Way 3.6 miles
Trailhead Elevation 5,973 feet
Elevation Gain 760 feet
Accumulated Gain 1,860 feet
Avg Time One Way 4 hours
Kokopelli Seeds 9.8
Interest Seasonal Creek
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30  2017-05-06
Mazatzal Peak Super Loop
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Preferred   May, Oct, Sep, Apr
Sun  6:34am - 5:47pm
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Brody Seep Trail #264
1.0 mi away
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690 ft
Sandy Saddle Trail #231
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900 ft
Shake Tree Canyon
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5.0 mi
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Y Bar Canyon
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10.0 mi
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Big Kahuna Canyon
3.7 mi away
6.0 mi
2,000 ft
North Fork Falls of Deadman Canyon
3.8 mi away
18.0 mi
3,169 ft
Horse Camp Seep - Mazatzals
3.8 mi away
19.3 mi
3,754 ft
Barnhardt - Sandy Saddle Loop
3.8 mi away
15.0 mi
4,735 ft
Barnhardt Canyon
3.8 mi away
6.0 mi
2,000 ft
Barnhardt Trail #43
3.8 mi away
12.4 mi
2,132 ft
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Manzanita and Deadfall
by jacobemerick

Likely In-Season!
Overview
This trail provides an alternate route from Brody Seep junction to Bear Spring, swinging low into the tributaries of South Fork Deadman Creek instead of climbing up along the Mazatzal Divide Trail (AZT). Mileage is about the same, though the view are less grand due to the lower elevation.


Warning
Heavy, heavy damage from the Willow Fire of '04. The first two miles are choked with manzanita and other nasty brush, then the rest is manzanita, nasty brush, and deadfall. Few cairns and faint tread make for a challenging route-finding exercise. Do not expect to go faster than a mile/hour on this 'trail'.

Hike
Starting from Brody Seep trail, head southwest a short distance until the route drops into a rocky wash. Tread is easy to follow, if overgrown, but I couldn't pick it up along the banks. Follow the wash downstream to 0.3 miles and then hack a way up the south bank before the drop. There is faint tread to be found here, though the deadfall is so thick it's best to find your own way up. Above the manzanita things will get rocky and grassy. Pick a way down the base of the cliffs to continue south. I wasn't able to find the trail here with the long grass and no cairns and simply did my best to avoid the rock slides.

Beyond the cliffs things open up a bit to provide some respite before dropping into and crossing a shallow drainage at 1.0 miles. Thick brush makes this a fun crossing. On the other side the trail twists to the east and rides along the base of a tall, steep hill. Tread is visible here, though plenty of game trails compete for attention. Path drops into a wash at 1.3 miles near some large sycamores. Take this downstream to 1.6 miles and then turn south and hack through some terribly thick brush, the worst stuff yet, to the next wash over. Or you could continue down and turn left and follow the fork upstream. That's the smarter way to do it.

Now it's time for the first climb. Follow the ridge up, staying mostly on the top, where hints of tread can provide too-short breaks from the onslaught of manzanita. Trail seemed to zig-zag sharply up the ridge and was not the easiest to follow. Near 2.3 miles start veering to the east where you get to deal with more of the same, only taller and now with dead pine trees to hop over. Aim for the closest saddle. Once on top there is a great view to the south and the next, 1000'+, climb.

Heading down is not that tough, not with hints of trail and relatively lighter brush on this side. Finding the tributary that leads up towards Bear Spring is annoying. It doesn't seem to make a recognizable dent in the bank. Find a spot and clamber up and enjoy the view up the rocky, choked climb ahead. It's not as bad as it looks if you balance from one trunk to the next, connecting them in a zig-zag route up the wash, only using the prickly berry bush-covered banks when necessary. There is some decent flowing rock pools along this stretch too, the last ones by the fork under a two-tiered and mossy waterfall.

Above the waterfall things get drier and the creek gets skinnier. More rock-hopping is required here and the logs make for a less conducive route. Some lusher greenery and grass shows up near the sight of Fisher Spring and Tank, though I wasn't able to find any pools or moist dirt near the waypoint. From here the plotted route zips up the northern bank. On top there are a few cairns and hints of tread and the brush isn't quite as thick as one would think. 0.2 miles on this ridge and the relative highway of Mazatzal Divide Trail shows up to provide some relief.

Water Sources
Tributary below Fisher Tank and Spring seems to have some decent rock pools. A few of the washes along the trail had stagnant pools that probably should not be depending on.

jacobemerick

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    To Barnhardt Trailhead
    From the corner of SR87 & SR260 in Payson go south on SR87 for 14.5 miles to the signed turnoff for Barnhardt trailhead (forest road 419). Follow FR419 5 miles to its end. The parking area is fairly large. Barnhardt trailhead is located at the west end of the parking area. From Phoenix take SR87 north out of Mesa to Payson. The turnoff to the trailhead is 4mi north of the 188 intersection. (think rest stop)

    From PHX (I-10 & AZ-51) 83.4 mi - about 1 hour 45 mins
    From TUC (Jct 1-10 & Grant) 182 mi - about 3 hours 4 mins
    From FLG (Jct I-17 & I-40) 126 mi - about 2 hours 31 mins
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