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Quien Sabe Draw, AZ

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Difficulty 1.5 of 5
Route Finding 1 of 5
Distance One Way 2 miles
Trailhead Elevation 7,287 feet
Elevation Gain -453 feet
Avg Time One Way 2 hours
Kokopelli Seeds 2.76
 Interest Off-Trail Hiking
unreported if dogs are allowed
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16  2025-09-04
Quien Sabe-Bear Loop
kingsnake
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Routes 339
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Trips 895 map ( 8,146 miles )
Age 63 Male Gender
Location Sunnyslope, PHX
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Preferred Oct, May, Apr, Sep → 7 AM
Sun  6:03am - 6:42pm
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Historic Fire Perimetersacres
🔥 2016 Pinchot Fire3.9k
🔥 2015 General Fire2.7k
🔥 2014 General Fire2.1k
🔥 2009 July 4th Complex Fire3.1k
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by kingsnake

 Likely In-Season!
This is a small canyon on the Rim, between Turkey Pen Ridge and Fred Haught Ridge. Only 2½ miles long, it has two upper branches that both start off FR 719. The branches join after 1¼ miles. Cabin Loop connects the branches. The draw continues for another 1¼ miles, crossing FR 719 (again) before emptying into Bear Canyon ¾ mile downstream of the FR 95 washout.


A loop of the draw's two upper branches is 2.9 miles, 280 AEG.
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A loop of either branch, returning via FR 719 and FR 95, is 5.2 miles, 475 AEG.

I cannot attest to the east branch, but the west branch has no obstacles and would be a good "Intro To Canyon Crawling", even for kids. The off-trail middle section is smooth sailing. The section below FR 719 is rocky, but not bad.

If you go all the way to the end, I'd double back at least to FR 719, as looping via Bear Canyon is tangled, rocky, and slow going.

2025-09-06 kingsnake


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    FR / Dirt Road / Gravel - Car Okay

    To hike
    On FR 300, one mile east of General Springs, turn left on FR 95. (Any FR 95 closure signs you see do not apply to this drive.) In 3.8 miles, turn left onto FR 719 and park.
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