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Superstition Peak 5057 - Carney, AZ

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Distance Round Trip 9.1 miles
Trailhead Elevation 2,202 feet
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10  2019-04-13
Superstition Peak 5057 Loop via Hiero
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12  2019-01-22
Superstition Ridgeline
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4  2019-01-22
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9  2019-01-22
Superstition Ridgeline
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23  2018-12-16
Superstition Peak 5057 from Lost Goldmine TH
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by HAZ_Hikebot

Check out the Superstition Ridgeline for details on this hike.

If you're convinced the Flatiron is the toughest out-n-back hike in the valley, this one might change your mind.


The Flatiron is more equivalent to 2 Squaw Peak or Camelback acsents. This bad boy is closer to 3 or a Humphries ascent.

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The original survey done on Peak 5057 is one of oldest surveys done in Arizona (1899). Those original surveyors hiked up there with pack mules. I can't even imagine doing that hike with pack mules, especially going up Carney Springs. Obviously, we can only assume there was basically no trail for them to follow in 1899. They left the mules below the peak while they did their survey work.

In subsequent years, (1910, 1936, 1938, and 1946) other surveyors put the various present 3 survey disks up there (& one carving in a boulder). The main disk is the one with the triangle on it, and the other 2 disks (Reference Marks) have arrows on them, pointing to the triangulation disk. The surveyors also carved that rudimentary "arrow" in a nearby boulder, pointing to the main disk. That carving was done in 1910, and also acted as a Reference Mark.

Next time you are up there, see if you can locate all 3 disks (easy) and the tiny arrow carving in the boulder. (not so easy)

Check out the Official Route and Triplogs.

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This is a difficult hike. Arrive fit and prepared or this could get ugly.

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2018-07-14 HAZ_Hikebot
    WARNING! Hiking and outdoor related sports can be dangerous. Be responsible and prepare for the trip. Study the area you are entering and plan accordingly. Dress for the current and unexpected weather changes. Take plenty of water. Never go alone. Make an itinerary with your plan(s), route(s), destination(s) and expected return time. Give your itinerary to trusted family and/or friends.

    Most recent of 63 deeper Triplog Reviews
    Superstition Peak 5057 - Carney
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    My brother and his wife did Flatiron last weekend and felt like doing something "a little tougher." I've done this hike several times but not in the past 1-2 years, so figured I would see if they were up for it, and they were. Nobody prepared their stuff last night, and we wanted to make sure to hit the trail at sunrise--and nobody sufficiently fueled up food-wise. Either way, we hastily made our way up and enjoyed so much of what I always enjoy about this hike, particularly the solitude (saw two others the entire time, and they were lost...). We did encounter three others at the summit coming from different areas.

    Felt toasty at 90-92, particularly on the way down. The PBR at the summit was a warranted reward for the challenge of the hike up. They both stated at the summit that they thought Grandview up at the GC was far more challenging, though the tune changed quickly after about an hour of the descent. In the end, outstanding hike as always; they loved it, I loved it, we all loved it. We will also be back, as soon as we forget how incredibly beat our legs are at this moment.
    Superstition Peak 5057 - Carney
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    I started this as late in the day as I could hoping the dust from the front would settle and the air would clear out, but it never did. Consequently, being on the summit I had no view, and it was strange. Almost like being on another planet, sometimes. I hadn't done this in over a year. It's OK, but I think Mazatzal Peak or Aztec Peak are more interesting. While it was no trip to a scenic out of town range, and who knows if I breathed in equivalent filth of having smoked a pack of cigarettes, but I still got in a decent hike with decent totals.
    Superstition Peak 5057 - Carney
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    Climbing up and down the canyon was interesting because it seemed like there where several trail options. There was plenty of water too. I found it, in about 4 locations. Only one source could be potentially annual. That was a nice surprise. The wildflowers were ok, but not in full bloom. It was a great hike. Most people didn't make it to the top.
    Superstition Peak 5057 - Carney
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    Ridgeline - 5057 - 5024
    Back for some more Ridgeline therapy, but this time with plenty of sunshine and a couple of peaks!

    We started off at a fairly brisk pace heading up Siphon Draw, but we bonked pretty quickly. :lol:

    This hike is much better with the views! But plenty of fun either way. :D

    It was a little warmer today than we are used to this time of year, but overall still really nice. Last time I brought over a gallon of water and used less than a liter, today I used all 3 liters that I brought. When that sun is beating down on you up on that ridge, you feel it.

    Water is still available at 2 points along the Ridgeline trail, a drainage shortly after 5024, and the drainage you cross after dropping down from the ridge after 5057. Water also available off-trail below West Boulder Saddle.
    Superstition Peak 5057 - Carney
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    Got an early start from Carney Springs just as the sun was coming up and touching on Three Sisters. Met a couple friends who I had yet to hike with so I was excited to spend the day tackling 5057 and Three Sisters with them. We started strong up Carney Rd and through the kissing gate , we shed layers pretty quickly as the sun was starting to warm things up. The first section up the false saddle was the toughest in my opinion but also a lot of fun scrambling over rocks and up slabs. We managed to keep a good pace and stopped at the first saddle to take in the sights and early morning views. The rock formations are incredible and there was no shortage of things to point at and say "oh that's cool". The trail to West Boulder Saddle from here looked tough but we breezed up it without batting an eye.

    From the saddle we had pretty good views of Superstition Peak and into West Boulder Canyon. We then set off skirting above Boulder Canyon toward our destination. The trail is well marked and pretty easy to follow, some really fun sections as you cut around before dropping into and across a wash, again really well cairned. From here to start to climb the backside of Three Sisters, the gain is steady with a few borderline Class 3 Sections. Keep your eye out NW as you will start to see the top of Weever's Peak over the ridge right above West Boulder Canyon. We continued to climb and passed a small waterfall that provided some nice cool water for my head. A little after we passed the turnoff for Three Sisters that we would take on the way back we passed through some goal post cairns and hit a pretty nice saddle. The wind picked up hard so we through on some jackets and continued the push up hill. We hit the fork where the trail heads off right for Ridgeline or up left to 5057. Go left, some guys ahead of us went right and ended up turning around to arrive at the summit about 15 minutes after us. The summit is pretty apparent as you move up through the sea of hoodoos but is also really well marked with cairns. Take some time to explore this area as there is a lot of cool stuff to see. The final push to the summit involves some class 3 but is nothing too crazy. Great views up top; back into the valley, Flat Iron, Weevers, Three Sisters, all great sites on a bluebird day like today.

    We made our way back down and took the fork right to Three Sisters, we found the trail peter out after a half mile, once we gained the first climb, and ended up doing a bit of bushwhacking. My partners were a bit unprepared, donning shorts and trail running shoes, and quickly ended up with legs and feet full of cactus. My leather boots and pants held up just fine as I left them behind and made the final push to Three Sisters for some mazing views and really sweet rock formations. Didn't stay too long or explore too much as my sissy compadres were waiting and ready to go. Once back at West Boulder Saddle I bid them farewell and took off East up the trail.

    After dipping into the drainage, my initial plan was to follow it up to Robbers Roost but I ended up taking a path North following a faint trail and some Cairns which I found out would be the Dacite Super Loop. A very cool, isolated area with many more interesting formations to explore and some awesome sights of Weevers once I gained the ridge. I followed some cairns SE before arriving at a corridor above the Peralta Trail and saddle. Somewhat sketchy scrambling as I headed down hopping from massive boulder to massive boulder and forging a trail down to the saddle. Passed by a mossy spring that I used to help cool off and snap a few pics!

    Finally connecting with Peralta trail, which was packed with Lululemon clad families, I opted for Cave Trail which I have heard of but never taken since I am rarely is this area of the Supes. I thoroughly enjoyed this trail as it was a bit of a problem solver in sections. It passed by many cool little caves and down an area called the fortress, lots of fun going down Devil's Slide and spent some time in "The Tub". Across the wash up to Cathedral Rock where I ran into some climbers I knew and rested with them for a bit. I finished out Cave Trail connecting with Bluff Springs and down to Peralta TH. Unfortunately, I still had a couple miles down the road and across Lost Goldmine to connect with my car. A slow finish to an overall exciting day!
    Superstition Peak 5057 - Carney
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    Started with no particular plan but to reach the saddle. Water was amazing. Is this the desert? Waterfalls, streams, creeks at every turn. Just couldn't stop. Continued on to Robbers Roost. More water, more beauty. Decided it wouldn't be fun to go back same way. Headed towards Carney, made way down past more incredible waterfalls, then took the trail back towards Peralta TH.
    Superstition Peak 5057 - Carney
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    So I made the mistake of sending a friend a message suggesting we bag 5057 this year instead of the annual Flatiron ritual. I say mistake because that friend said yes... So despite the weather, off we went.

    Saw maybe 6 people total throughout the day (I'm sure despite the weather that the Flatiron side was still fairly busy in comparison) and the weather made things interesting to say the least. Not nearly as grueling as I expected it to be though. The description equates it to a single Humphrey's ascent, and I think that may be giving it too much credit. While my one time on Humphrey's was during a time of less-than-stellar fitness, the extreme elevation really made that one much more difficult for me. The only real challenge here was dealing with some of the steep inclines and rock crawling combined with rain. (Amazingly grippy rock surfaces despite the rain though.)

    We made our way to the peak through the last bit with some pretty strong wind and rain hitting us, got a few selfies up top, and then headed back a bit to a small downclimb area that made for a half decent shelter for lunch. About 2/3rds of the way back down the sunset and clouds made for one of the most spectacular sights I've seen in all my years hiking around AZ. For most of the trip I was very glad I left my DSLR at home as the clouds and landscape didn't make for a photogenic combination. (Not to mention the risk to the equipment in the rain.) But that sunset had me kicking myself for not bringing it. That scene really made the entire hike worthwhile.
    Superstition Peak 5057 - Carney
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    Peak 5057 & Dacite Super Loop
    5057 has been on my hit list for a while now, today felt like a good day to check this one off the list.

    The morning started off promising, with a great sunrise as I headed east on US60.

    I met up with Linda just before 8AM at the Lost Goldmine TH. Our out and back quickly turned into a loop hike, which was fine by me, I got to pick up a few more uniques, I prefer loops anyway, and I wanted to do some recon on the area between West Boulder and Fremont Saddle.

    The climb up to West Boulder Saddle was steep, but we took it at a very manageable pace. The views you get after you gain the ridgeline are incredible. I can't wait to see everything between 5057 and Flatiron. The peak did not disappoint, offering great 360 degree views as advertised. The small but steep scramble near the top where you really have to use your hands is fun.

    I also enjoyed the route connecting West Boulder Saddle to Fremont Saddle, and Robbers Roost. I've always been curious where you might find the closest naturally occurring pine trees to the valley. I guess this depends on where you put the center of "the valley", I'm thinking more along the lines of the east valley, because that's where I live. Although I believe the ones near the top of Flatiron are closer, the few found in this area are quite hardy. I love finding places like this. I saw a couple of spots in the sand along this drainage that looked like they might be good for some cowboy camping, but not much room to set up a tent.

    I will refer you to Linda's triplog for the our good deeds of the day, including the SAR story... But I would like to add that in addition to her listed deeds, we also picked up multiple pieces of trash, a headlamp, and a jacket some pumpkin decided to abandon on Cave Trail. I think we've built up enough good karma on this trip to last us well into the next few years. Rest assured, I am ready to ride this wave of good fortune that is about to come my way.

    Good hike, great company, and a nice warm day in December. I now know if I need to re-up on some karma, hike with Linda! :lol:

    Water
    Small pools in the drainage just after West Boulder Saddle but before the climb onto the ridgeline.

    Small pools and a couple medium sized pools in drainage between West Boulder Saddle and Robbers Roost.

    Small pools and a the bigger pool that would require a repel (or maybe there is a way around that I don't know about) to get to.

    No flow anywhere. Looking pretty sparse out there, though my expectation going in was to see no water at all.
    Superstition Peak 5057 - Carney
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    Wanted to go somewhere new and get some good pumpkin whoopin in.. I was not disappointed. Once again started with the headlamp for the first hour or so. I am so eager to get an early start, but I miss some scenery and it is kinda creepy out there at night. Didn't see much that first hour, I just remember going up, up, and up. Got to the first small saddle and ditched the light. Then it was up, up, up again. Coming up and over West Boulder Saddle overlooks a beautiful valley and it was perfect timing as the sun started rising. One of the best things about hiking in the Supes is that every time you push up to a break or saddle there is another amazing view! The hike along the ridgeline there was a nice change of pace until it was time to go back up again. There were 3 separate sections where it was pretty much straight up for about 500 ft, so you totally earn those breaks. After leveling out after one of those pushes I let out a victory yell and startled some animals out of some bushes and they took off straight up the hill. They were very large with big white rear ends but no horns, so I'm going with mule deer. The trail was easy to follow the whole way. Made it to the summit in 3 hours exactly. The top part was very cool! It was like a maze with those hoodoos up close. Spent 20 or so minutes up top enjoying the views and reading the triplogs in the register box. Looked over to FlatIron and visualized the whole ridgeline in my near future. Made it back down in only 2 hours. People think going up hill is the hard part, they are incorrect. I only slipped once but my knees we aching for sure after that pounding coming down. I did make sure to enjoy some of those views I missed on the way in. One of those being a pretty distinct and fresh cat print in the sand on the trail. :scared: I didn't see anyone the whole time until I got back to the trailhead and there were about 20 people headed to the wave cave, so I had perfect timing.

    **Side note** Why does it seem when there are rock cairns all over the trail, they are never at the spots where they are actually needed?? Not to worry, the spray-painted white dots reflect the headlamp very well..

    Super glad to finally check out that side of the ridgeline, and I already cannot wait to go back!
    Superstition Peak 5057 - Carney
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    I was surprised this only took slightly longer than 5024, as for some reason it feels like a much bigger hike. Guess it isn't. 2:15 up, and 2:10 down, plus 5 minutes of break time for a snack going up. About an hour on top. A moody, gloomy day, with storms around and lots of humidity, which is getting hard to deal with as we alternate between moist and dry, as we had this weekend. Wouldn't mind this again.

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    FR / Jeep Road - Car possible when dry

    To Carney Spring Trailhead
    7.6 miles east of the junction Idaho Rd / US-60. Turn Left on to FS77 which is Peralta Road. Follow FS77 5.6 miles to a left and up turnoff. Continue 0.6 miles to Carney Spring Trailhead.

    Warning
    This trailhead and the first 0.5 miles is periodically enforced as being on State Land, see permit for info.
    2 easy ways to avoid the small lot and fee.
    - Lost Goldmine TH / +0.9 miles GPS Route
    - Peralta TH w/restrooms / +1.3 miles GPS Route

    From PHX (I-10 & AZ-51) 46.3 mi - about 1 hour 6 mins
    From TUC (Jct 1-10 & Grant) 95.8 mi - about 2 hours 12 mins
    From FLG (Jct I-17 & I-40) 191 mi - about 3 hours 10 mins
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