So You don't need a Special Use Permit if your group is dis-organised...

We drove back from South Bass TH yesterday-it is fine. Got caught by the Hualapai not at the gate but 100ft from where you turn north from Pasture Wash. Glad to pay $25. There was a woman who busted her leg just below the rabbit hole last week requiring helicopter evac.

We did this loop in November -camped at Reavis Ranch and then at Angel Basin. We lost Frog Tanks near where it turns south and we stayed in the creek bed for 1/2 mile bushwhacking -the trail goes up to Frog Tanks before descending to Rogers Canyon

We went in from the west on Sept 14th. Camped at Horse Camp Canyon-area clear. Some deep pools and lots of debris above streambed. I heard flow gauge was off and recent flood was 4000cfs. Anyway, it did catch people unawares judging by the amount of tent debris we collected -pieces from 3 different ...

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Yes-Too much Iron -Celtic Curse

I do a 500ml blood dump every three months-I think my recovery time is about 3-4 days.

Back open again-they removed some tree from Pinball that tubers could not avoid at 1400cfs.

My next filter maybe the MSR bulb trailshot.

When we did Royal Arch I took along a lifestraw which I used to check the salinity of water source before using the Sawyer Squeeze. If I suspect the water sources will be small puddles I tend to take my MSR filter as it is easy to pump.

I just came across this story from last week. Incident happened in Golden, Co. -Very tragic and unnerving


http://www.newser.com/story/249795/endu ... iking.html

I wonder if Game&Fish will increase the bag at Willow or Woods -was catching small ones last week.

I saw Desert Pupfish there last March- I think AZGFD are involved in some recovery projects ( dead link removed )

I would prefer Boucher/Tonto/Hermit.

I met a girl down by the lower Salt River who was traipsing all about the bush looking for wild horses. I asked her about gaitors and she informed me that there were no gators in Arizona..true story

Beamer Trail -with wind gust of 50mph+ one way followed by a gust 30mph+ from the opposite direction. Wind blew 3 windows out on truck at Tanner TH and toppled bear bin..

I use Vasque trail shoes at the moment -even when backpacking. Lightweight and no blisters. I would consider boots hiking in snow.

If I am hiking up north this time of year I do check on the different units. 5A/5B had cow elk this weekend. I have an orange mesh vest with reflectors on it that I use for night biking that I will wear if concerned -lightweight too..

I like what Delaware have done with Yavapai-somewhere to drink if it is raining in Mather. Not sure if a new company at Phantom would lower beer prices for punters or just give NPS a bigger slice of the profits.

LaFong-When would you be doing this -I am off Mon/Tues. Some gnarly parts ..

We are doing Tanner/Escalante but coming out Grandview in April. Looking forward to the Papago Wall..