on a slightly different note , does anyone know what the orange or blue paint markings are for in the coconino national forest Some trees have one orange stripe some two or three. I assume this is some marking for logging but couldn't get a good answer.

@The_Eagle
That's where the gold is buried.

Opps to the right trail goes right to the left trail goes left.

That particular one means trail continues forward if the top blaze is to the right slightly it means trail goes right to the left slightly trail turns left. I have seen these on trails around Arizona and wondered the same thing so I looked up trail blaze markings on the internet under Trail blaze ma...

@CannondaleKid
Monsoon means change of direction meaning the weather comes in from the south rather than the north. By the definition this is a monsoon and though not as large ad the ones in Asia still a monsoon. Recognized by the meteorologist.

I had a 1966 Toyota land cruiser back in the 70's and 80's, Actually they called it a chevota, V8 chevy engine. Loved that vehicle but it was a rough ride. In 2016 I got a jeep JK and although it took a while for me to warm up to it and a month or two to drive it without a paper bag over my head, I ...

@00blackout
Thanks, May drive up and check it out some week.

@CannondaleKid
thanks

Has anyone gone to rogers Trough via what I believe is NF 650 near Superior and up over Montana Mountain then to Rogers Trough. When I was on the Arizona Trail I walked a bit of this and looked like a good road.

@CannondaleKid
That's good because I got mine in January also. I doubt I will be using these much in May or June though. I have an appointment with Dome mountain and if it ever stops raining I'll be able to keep it. Not Complaining about the rain though.

@DixieFlyer
Thanks good to know.Guess I will have to finish up the hiking I still have planned before my pass expires. If it ever stops raining before it gets blazing hot.

I watched that document after running into two people up on the Kaibab plateau that were doing that hike a few years back. I believe the they were interviewed during that documentary.

@RedRoxx44
Yes definitely do not rely on electronic devices as your safety net.

I don't believe there is a class that teaches route finding skills and if there is it is probably not as good as just boots on the ground experience. Map reading is a good start but usually only on the greater scale of things. My suggestion is just get out and do it but start small and work up as yo...

@RowdyandMe
I posted a picture of a person caring her dog in a pack on her back on a no dogs trail, I believe this would be legal since they are not actually on the trail. Of coarse Rowdy is a bit big for that and I get the impression wouldn't be too keen on the idea either.

@DixieFlyer
Looked those up and that looks like what I'm looking for too. Thanks.

@LindaAnn
Thanks for the info I will try them. I found it hard to find electrolytes that don't have more vitamins than electrolytes. Not looking for vitamin supplements.

I have used the Garmin 650T for the last 8 years and never had an issue except forgetting to turn it on (no fix for stupid). The other issue and it probably applies to all who aren't caring around a lap top the map can be like looking at an elephant from a straw. I don't like the compass on it becau...

@RedRoxx44
I have not been there since the mid 70's. Drove my land cruiser up there. Back then the F4 phantoms would run through panamint valley and break the sound barrier, I remember standing near that tall smoke stack when that happened and hopping it wasn't going topple over. Great place.

@Alston_Neal
That's how I rate it. Is the road Priusable or do I need to take the jeep.