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C. C. Cragin Reservoir

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Interesting article on AZCentral today about how Payson is finally going to get water from CC Cragin Reservoir (when exactly did it change it's name from Blue Ridge?).

In the meantime, it seems that SRP is taking water from the reservoir and releasing it into the East Verde at Washington Park, so that there's a regular flow that has more commonly been associated with spring runoff. This water is draining all the way down to Horseshoe and Bartlett lakes.

Payson will be building a new pipeline from Washington Park to a new water treatment plant somewhere near town, so it will be interesting to see how the pipeline/construction affects the area in the next few years.

It will also be interesting to see how the water levels on the reservoir are affected by the use of the water in higher quantities than recent years.

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I refuse to call it anything but Blue Ridge. [-(
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The Hippy wrote: There should be a name change cut off time, if its been named one thing for over ten years....don't change.
That is the reason a certain peak here will always be Squaw Peak to me.
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Alston Neal wrote:That is the reason a certain peak here will always be Squaw Peak to me.
My grandfather, who spent the vast majority of his life in AZ, told me years ago that it used to be called "Squaw T i t Peak", but was renamed for obvious political correctness...
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paulhubbard wrote:
Alston Neal wrote:That is the reason a certain peak here will always be Squaw Peak to me.
My grandfather, who spent the vast majority of his life in AZ, told me years ago that it used to be called "Squaw T i t Peak", but was renamed for obvious political correctness...
Ah yes the good old days when men were men and women were....well not allowed to name things.
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Plug 44.10930°N -108.5766°W into Mapdex
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Sredfield wrote:Plug 44.10930°N -108.5766°W into Mapdex
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I at least had comfort in knowing there were 2 of them.
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Heading to this place with my kayak on Monday night, paddling on Tuesday, maybe on Wed., too. Have never been there. Hope it has some water in it!

If you play around with the settings, set it to show you data for one year, you can see that the level has dropped a great deal over the past year. http://waterdata.usgs.gov/az/nwis/uv/?s ... 0065,00060

One thing no one pointed out on this thread is the watershed it is a part of. It's on East Clear Creek (which is not connected to West Clear Creek, but both arise near each other in the same mountains, they just go in opposite directions.)

East Clear Creek runs into the Little Colorado River at Winslow. The LCR runs north-northwest from Mount Baldy in the White Mountains all the way to Grand Canyon, to the big Colorado River. On its way to the LCR, East Clear Creek also is impounded in another reservoir suitable for kayaking and swimming, at McHood Park outside of Winslow.

Compare this with the West Clear Creek watershed. West Clear Creek runs into the Verde, which runs into the Salt, which runs into the Gila, which runs into the big Colorado River within the town limits of Yuma. Well, that is, when it does run, that's where it runs.
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My girlfriend and I backpacked ECC via Mack's Crossing a couple weeks back. Did lots of swimming while there. A couple days after getting back, what originally looked like bug bites expanded and spread into a rash all over her legs, which then spread up to her torso. It took 2 weeks, 3 visits to urgent care, 2 different antibiotics, prescription antihistamines, a steroid shot and some other shot to finally kick whatever was going on. Pretty bizarre, and still nobody knows what it was or what caused it. I can also vouch for the fact that her immune system is far inferior to the average person's. Just thought I'd throw that nasty bit of info in there as long as we're talking about ECC... ;)
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@azpride

Maybe swimmer's itch? Link: http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/swimmersitch/faqs.html
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@nahimana222
Hmm... Looks suspiciously close to what she had at first. Then I'm pretty sure the "scratching can cause bacterial infections" passage happened to her.
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@azpride
I actually almost said swimmers itch myself, but thought it was more of a Midwest thing? caused by geese?
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My new 2013 Coconino National Forest Visitors map now lists the former Blue Ridge Reservoir as C. C. Cragin Reservoir.
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Sorry It'll always be Blue Ridge Reservoir for me. A great place to go to and relax after hiking Squaw Peak!
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Huh? I was considering taking my canoe there this coming weekend and camping for a few nights. I spoke to someone in the Blue Ridge ranger office this morning and she said the lake is at 42% full.
I asked her if it was all green and nasty looking, but she said not bad. I wonder, down so low with no water coming into it, it is likely getting pretty funky...
Sounds like it will get lower as the summer continues.
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I see you're going to Blue Ridge / Cragin today and tomorrow. Could you let me know what the water conditions are like. I was considering taking my canoe up there over the weekend. The last time I was there I paddled all the way to the mouth of ECC and camped. This time I was think about going around the other side where Bear Canyon and General Springs Canyon enter the lake, maybe camp around in there. Any info on the conditions and available camping would be appreciated.
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ALMAL wrote:@azbackpackr
I see you're going to Blue Ridge / Cragin today and tomorrow. Could you let me know what the water conditions are like. I was considering taking my canoe up there over the weekend. The last time I was there I paddled all the way to the mouth of ECC and camped. This time I was think about going around the other side where Bear Canyon and General Springs Canyon enter the lake, maybe camp around in there. Any info on the conditions and available camping would be appreciated.
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If you don't like gusty winds, though, watch the forecast. Looks to me like it is going to be a lot better. Forecast for Monday and Tuesday was for 50 mph gusts.
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About a week or so Rock Crossing CG was closed due to bear problems....
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I heard about bears, but never saw one there.
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Update on the status of CC Cragin (Blue Ridge) Reservoir from SRP.

The water level has dropped to just 27% of capacity, and SRP continues to draw down the lake level to do maintenance on the pump intake. The water level must drop an additional 26 feet from its current level, and SRP expects that to occur by August 18th. Inspection of the tunnel inlet should be complete by Aug. 20.

SRP indicates that an above normal winter season can fill the reservoir by next spring.

Read all about how the water is currently being pumped into the East Verde, and ultimately being stored in Horseshoe Reservoir, as well as how Payson will use the water in future years:
http://www.srpnet.com/newsroom/releases/071714.aspx
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Thanks for the info. It was definitely lower when I was there last on July 22nd. I had been there about a month prior to that and noticed a drop.
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