Washington Park Trailhead

Nighthiker · Post by **Nighthiker** » Jul 01 2014 5:47 pm

Spent the day out at Washington Park Trailhead and noted it was day use only, not sure how long it has been posted as such. This was ideal for me in the past to set up a base camp and hike up to the Rim Top, The National Trail and to explore the area. For folks hiking the National Trail I wonder how it will affect their thru hike.

YouTube https://youtube.com/username · Post by **PrestonSands** » Jul 01 2014 8:17 pm

One could always "backpack" a few hundred feet beyond the road and camp, potentially skirting the new regulation. All Forest Service recreation sites along the East Verde River are now day use only, I believe. Perhaps it has something to do with protecting water quality.

chumley · Post by **chumley** » Jul 01 2014 8:46 pm

This is the first summer where day-use only rule is in effect. As Preston says, a short backpack is all it takes ... though I believe officially you have to be at least 1/4 mile away.

The goal was to stop it from being trashed as a car-camping destination.

Tough_Boots · Post by **Tough_Boots** » Jul 02 2014 7:53 am

I'm sure the good folks of Whispering Pines appreciate it the new rule

Dschur · Post by **Dschur** » Jul 02 2014 12:39 pm

The Washington Park area just went to the day use only as of March...
http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOC ... 792370.pdf

chumley · Post by **chumley** » Jul 02 2014 2:37 pm

@Dschur
Thanks Dawn. I searched for that but couldn't find it. It's nice to have the map posted here.

The_Eagle · Post by **The_Eagle** » Jul 02 2014 2:46 pm

@chumley
Because of this guy...
http://www.fws.gov/southwest/es/arizona/CLF.htm

chumley · Post by **chumley** » Jul 02 2014 3:06 pm

@1-800
Or this guy: http://hikearizona.com/photo=355026

Sredfield · Post by **Sredfield** » Jul 02 2014 4:09 pm

Ok Grammar Police, what say you on this one:

"2. This Order will be affected by appropriate signs and closure notices as required by 36 CFR 261.50."

I'm thinking it should be "effected" but I don't want to start anything here . . .

FOTG · Post by **FOTG** » Jul 02 2014 6:30 pm

@Sredfield
Just and awkward wording all together I think, but let me make this a teachable moment...generally affect will be used as a verb and effect as a noun...

Example: The wind affected the fire, it had a devastating effect.

Although I am sure Azbackpacker will challenge this and say I am wrong ;)

Grasshopper · Post by **Grasshopper** » Jul 02 2014 6:37 pm

@friendofThundergod
I'll by that

Nighthiker · Post by **Nighthiker** » Jul 02 2014 7:14 pm

I am still puzzled why it did not include a prohibition on frog gigging.

The_Eagle · Post by **The_Eagle** » Jul 02 2014 8:19 pm

@Grasshopper
Or is it Buy or Bye

hippiepunkpirate · Post by **hippiepunkpirate** » Jul 02 2014 9:39 pm

"Affect" is always a verb, whereas "effect" can be a noun or a verb. However, in the forms with "ed", "effected" is a strictly a verb whereas "affected" is considered an adjective, although it definitely sounds like a verb. In the sentence in question, "effected" is the proper usage, as Shawn suggested. Correct, most often we use "effect" in the verb form, but the verb form "effected" is essentially like saying "put into effect" (the intended usage above). Not something used all that often anymore.

chumley · Post by **chumley** » Jul 02 2014 10:58 pm

@The Eagle
It was a good enough joke it didn't need to be explained... But thanks for helping out the folks who didn't get it.

FOTG · Post by **FOTG** » Jul 03 2014 5:10 am

@hippiepunkpirate

Affect" is always a verb

Yup I knew someone would say I was wrong lol...however, like I said affect is "generally" used as a verb, this is the English language here very words that have concrete uses where one can apply the terms always and never...that's what makes the language an SOB for some to learn...see below example...well look at that affect can be used as a noun ;)

“Affect” as a noun. “Affect” as a noun means an emotional state as contrasted to a cognition. “Affect” is a dimension of behavior rather than a separate segment of it

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hippiepunkpirate · Post by **hippiepunkpirate** » Jul 03 2014 7:17 am

well look at that affect can be used as a noun ;)

In my defense, I made my previous post from looking up the words in question on multiple online dictionaries, all of which gave "affect" as a verb only. Wasn't doing it to prove you wrong, I did know of the verb form of effect before doing the research. The noun form of "affect" sounds like it's out of the glossary of a Psychology textbook.

FOTG · Post by **FOTG** » Jul 03 2014 9:54 am

@hippiepunkpirate
Lol I got ya believe me you had me googling this morning as well I certainly don't think one will come across too many instances of noun form, except in maybe certain academic circles like you stated...I only joke cause everyone loves correcting me because I teach I think...my comment sections are evidence of that none of my mistakes go unnoticed

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