Charliebois from First Water
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Charliebois from First Water
I know it is kind of a late notice. But I really need to get back in the Superstitions.
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Re: Charliebois from First Water
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Re: Charliebois from First Water
@Rockadoodledude
I have been to Charliebois 4 or 5 times. Its about 17 miles around trip. With all the rain it should be pretty green,maybe a few snakes along the way.
I have been to Charliebois 4 or 5 times. Its about 17 miles around trip. With all the rain it should be pretty green,maybe a few snakes along the way.
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Re: Charliebois from First Water
Does anyone know the condition of FR78 to First Water TH? With all the rain, I'm afraid my poor little honda might not make it 

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@Bradshaws
Good question, but it should be alright by now. I have been there a few times after a storm and the road is usually grade within a day or two.
Good question, but it should be alright by now. I have been there a few times after a storm and the road is usually grade within a day or two.
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Re: Charliebois from First Water
Love to be there with you guys, (I'm about 1,600 miles away) hope the weather's good, have a safe hike. 

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@Bradshaws
Hi There ..did you complete the hike at charlebois today? The calendar shows you went with my husband, Widowmaker....He is not home yet, so I am checking all angles....Please call me if you have any news or information. I have called 911 pinal co sheriff. Thanks,
Hi There ..did you complete the hike at charlebois today? The calendar shows you went with my husband, Widowmaker....He is not home yet, so I am checking all angles....Please call me if you have any news or information. I have called 911 pinal co sheriff. Thanks,
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Re: Charliebois from First Water
@FawnaFlora
I hope he turns up soon. An unplanned night out would be better on that trip than a lot of other places.
I hope he turns up soon. An unplanned night out would be better on that trip than a lot of other places.
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Kellsey if their just having difficult with transportation I live in Apache Junction and would be willing to help.FawnaFlora wrote:@Bradshaws
Hi There ..did you complete the hike at charlebois today? The calendar shows you went with my husband, Larry Ayala. (Widowmaker)....He is not home yet, so I am checking all angles....Please call me if you have any news or information. I have called 911 pinal co sheriff. Thanks, Kelsey 480.278.3013
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Re: Charliebois from First Water
HAZ-BEEBEE (Brian) is now amateur radio monitoring the airways and we now think that a "PCSO Helicopter is enroute from Casa Grand Airport".
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Re: Charliebois from First Water
All is well! Very hot and slow going. Didn't mean to worry anyone.
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Re: Charliebois from First Water
Well, dang. No tour helicopter ride?
Seriously, glad you're safe.

Seriously, glad you're safe.
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Re: Charliebois from First Water
The humiditiy didn't hit us until we were on top of Bull Pass. Once we got down to the pass we thought about turning back, but also realized we would run out of water. And I knew there was water at Charliebois Canyon. So we had to take more breaks along the way.
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Re: Charliebois from First Water
Thanks everybody for your offers to help. Widowmaker turned up safe...the hike took longer than planned. Pinal Co Sheriff turned up at trail head and spotted them coming out to their cars. Glad it didn't turn out like his last adventure with a broken ankle.
Y'alll are a good group of people! Nice to know there is help and encouragement out there.

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Re: Charliebois from First Water
If you get far enough along before the pace drops, the best move is to go for the spring. Some people don't make the best move when the chips are down, but I figured there was enough experience and judgment between the two of you to make the right call. My guess was that you would rest up by the water and hike out after it cooled off, or perhaps at the crack of dawn. If I were late, that's what I hope people would expect me to do. Of course, an immobilizing injury could change things considerably.Widowmaker wrote:The humidity didn't hit us until we were on top of Bull Pass. Once we got down to the pass we thought about turning back, but also realized we would run out of water. And I knew there was water at Charliebois Canyon. So we had to take more breaks along the way.
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Re: Charliebois from First Water
@big_load
That's pretty much what we did. Filled everything up with water, including our cloths, bottles and stomachs and chilled out by the water for over a hour.
After about noon the thermometer I had on my pack never dropped below 100' and stayed around 110' for most of the day but like Larry said the humidity was the factor that was overwhelming. So we hiked in short spurts .25 to .5 mile then would stop in shade for 15 to 20 mins to keep from overheating. I never really felt in danger but it was very uncomfortable. It just took way longer than either of us expected.
Better late than never ;)
That's pretty much what we did. Filled everything up with water, including our cloths, bottles and stomachs and chilled out by the water for over a hour.
After about noon the thermometer I had on my pack never dropped below 100' and stayed around 110' for most of the day but like Larry said the humidity was the factor that was overwhelming. So we hiked in short spurts .25 to .5 mile then would stop in shade for 15 to 20 mins to keep from overheating. I never really felt in danger but it was very uncomfortable. It just took way longer than either of us expected.
Better late than never ;)
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Re: Charliebois from First Water
It is imperative for hikers and backpackers in this state to be prepared to assist the searchers by having the means or a device to let them know where you are and what your problem is. Without this capability you may be in for a long miserable wait for assistance from those wonderful folks in the bright yellow shirts and jackets. 

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Re: Charliebois from First Water
Well just to make less stressful for family and friends. I will buy a Spot or something like it. Any suggestions?
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@Widowmaker
Your wife was afraid that you were going to live up to your Hazopelli name.
Believe it or not, you'll get get different suggestions here from different people...
I've used a SPOT for 3 or so years. It's worked pretty good as long as you use the correct batteries. The model I have is real picky on voltage.
Never had to uncover either of the emergency buttons yet, but the "I'm OK" button gets pushed quite often when I'm running later than I had discussed with my GF.
I subscribe to the Breadcrumb feature so she can see how close I am to finishing or where to find where the body is located when I couldn't push the button.
Some like the PLB's. in lieu of the Spot.
Your wife was afraid that you were going to live up to your Hazopelli name.
Believe it or not, you'll get get different suggestions here from different people...
I've used a SPOT for 3 or so years. It's worked pretty good as long as you use the correct batteries. The model I have is real picky on voltage.
Never had to uncover either of the emergency buttons yet, but the "I'm OK" button gets pushed quite often when I'm running later than I had discussed with my GF.
I subscribe to the Breadcrumb feature so she can see how close I am to finishing or where to find where the body is located when I couldn't push the button.
Some like the PLB's. in lieu of the Spot.
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