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JimGuides: 73 | Official Routes: 36Triplogs Last: 7 d | RS: 67Water Reports 1Y: 10 | Last: 143 d
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The endless chatter of weather.
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nikorock28Guides: 0 | Official Routes: 0Triplogs Last: 780 d | RS: 9Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: never
- Joined: Nov 16 2010 11:52 pm
- City, State: Kingman, AZ
Re: El Niño's revenge.
@The Dude
Even here at 7000', snow abounds on the ground as it hasnt been warm enough to melt yet.
Even here at 7000', snow abounds on the ground as it hasnt been warm enough to melt yet.
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big_loadGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 1Triplogs Last: 595 d | RS: 3Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 2,484 d
- Joined: Oct 28 2003 11:20 am
- City, State: Andover, NJ
Re: El Niño's revenge.
The long-term weather in NJ has been consistent with typical El Nino expectations (warmer and wetter than average).
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azbackpackrGuides: 27 | Official Routes: 23Triplogs Last: 78 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 771 d
- Joined: Jan 21 2006 6:46 am
- City, State: Eagar AZ
Re: El Niño's revenge.
Pinetop journalist Jo Baeza writes an interesting article about 1967's "Storm of the Century" which affected the White Mountains, Navajo Reservation and Flagstaff. It snowed for 9 days straight. 51 people died. Check it out:
http://www.wmicentral.com/news/show_low ... 7872f.html
http://www.wmicentral.com/news/show_low ... 7872f.html
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JimGuides: 73 | Official Routes: 36Triplogs Last: 7 d | RS: 67Water Reports 1Y: 10 | Last: 143 d
- Joined: Sep 08 2006 8:14 pm
Re: El Niño's revenge.
There was a not so severe, but similar repeat after the late January storms of 2010, on the reservation.
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JimGuides: 73 | Official Routes: 36Triplogs Last: 7 d | RS: 67Water Reports 1Y: 10 | Last: 143 d
- Joined: Sep 08 2006 8:14 pm
Re: El Niño's revenge.
Trouble is, this forecast doesn't appear to be favoring areas north of the Mogollon Rim, so it appears great for Phoenix watersheds, and ranges like the Mazzies, Anchas, Supes, Pinals, those around Prescott and Cottonwood, but not so great for the Peaks. I am seeing snow totals through Tuesday night that aren't even a foot at 11,496' on the west slope of the Peaks.
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chumleyGuides: 94 | Official Routes: 241Triplogs Last: 6 d | RS: 65Water Reports 1Y: 78 | Last: 8 d
- Joined: Sep 18 2002 8:59 am
- City, State: Tempe, AZ
Re: El Niño's revenge.
I woke up to thunder this morning! A couple hours later was the first time I saw any forecast include the possibility of severe weather as part of this system. Sometimes it helps to look out the window! 

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JasonCleghornGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 4Triplogs Last: 833 d | RS: 8Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 833 d
- Joined: Nov 11 2014 1:03 pm
- City, State: Manchester, NH
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Re: El Niño's revenge.
I saw a flash of lightning on my way to work this AM!chumley wrote:I woke up to thunder this morning! A couple hours later was the first time I saw any forecast include the possibility of severe weather as part of this system. Sometimes it helps to look out the window!
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"It's not the mountains that we conquer, but ourselves"
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big_loadGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 1Triplogs Last: 595 d | RS: 3Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 2,484 d
- Joined: Oct 28 2003 11:20 am
- City, State: Andover, NJ
Re: El Niño's revenge.
Winter has finally arrived in NJ. Forecast low for tonight is 9F. I don't care how cold it gets, as long as it doesn't snow.
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big_loadGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 1Triplogs Last: 595 d | RS: 3Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 2,484 d
- Joined: Oct 28 2003 11:20 am
- City, State: Andover, NJ
Re: El Niño's revenge.
Oops! It was down to 6F already an hour ago. There's still about seven hours of cooling left.big_load wrote:Winter has finally arrived in NJ. Forecast low for tonight is 9F. I don't care how cold it gets, as long as it doesn't snow.
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chumleyGuides: 94 | Official Routes: 241Triplogs Last: 6 d | RS: 65Water Reports 1Y: 78 | Last: 8 d
- Joined: Sep 18 2002 8:59 am
- City, State: Tempe, AZ
Re: El Niño's revenge.
I keep reading about how this week's weather consists of "El Niño-fueled storms".
My favorite from yesterday was "the El Niño Weather System"
Wasn't the entire dry month of December also El Niño - fueled? Or did that just happen on Sunday?
The northeast was in the 70s on Christmas because of El Niño but today it's in the teens. Is that also because of El Niño?
Or just selectively when it seems to make a good headline?
My favorite from yesterday was "the El Niño Weather System"
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Wasn't the entire dry month of December also El Niño - fueled? Or did that just happen on Sunday?
The northeast was in the 70s on Christmas because of El Niño but today it's in the teens. Is that also because of El Niño?
Or just selectively when it seems to make a good headline?
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The_EagleGuides: 41 | Official Routes: 342Triplogs Last: 2 d | RS: 612Water Reports 1Y: 75 | Last: 8 d
- Joined: Jan 20 2009 2:46 pm
- City, State: Far NE Phoenix, Az
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Re: El Niño's revenge.
Don't forget the Polar Vortex!
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chumleyGuides: 94 | Official Routes: 241Triplogs Last: 6 d | RS: 65Water Reports 1Y: 78 | Last: 8 d
- Joined: Sep 18 2002 8:59 am
- City, State: Tempe, AZ
Re: El Niño's revenge.
Sandbags! Sandbags!
The little boy is giving Phoenix rain!
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/loc ... /78306444/
I'm all for preparedness, but 1" of rain, (or even 3") over the course of a week is not typically the kind of thing that requires sandbag fortifications!
There's a reason that the National Weather Service has not issued any Flood Advisories, Flash Flood Watches, or Flash Flood Warnings in Arizona this week.
The little boy is giving Phoenix rain!
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/loc ... /78306444/
I'm all for preparedness, but 1" of rain, (or even 3") over the course of a week is not typically the kind of thing that requires sandbag fortifications!
There's a reason that the National Weather Service has not issued any Flood Advisories, Flash Flood Watches, or Flash Flood Warnings in Arizona this week.
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nonotGuides: 107 | Official Routes: 108Triplogs Last: 18 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 7 | Last: 18 d
- Joined: Nov 18 2005 11:52 pm
- City, State: Phoenix, AZ
Re: El Niño's revenge.
It's apparently enough to make people drive like there's 2 ft of snow of the road though.
Rain is coming a bit too early for wildflowers. Might be another grass year.
Rain is coming a bit too early for wildflowers. Might be another grass year.
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Hike Arizona it is full of sharp, pointy, ankle-twisting, HAZmaster crushing ROCKS!!
Hike Arizona it is full of sharp, pointy, shin-stabbing, skin-shredding plants!
Hike Arizona it is full of striking, biting, stabbing, venomous wildlife!
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johnlpGuides: 1 | Official Routes: 5Triplogs Last: 5 d | RS: 2Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 1,743 d
- Joined: Mar 16 2008 7:12 pm
- City, State: chandler,az
Re: El Niño's revenge.
1 & 5/16 inches of rain in my gage this morning.
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chumleyGuides: 94 | Official Routes: 241Triplogs Last: 6 d | RS: 65Water Reports 1Y: 78 | Last: 8 d
- Joined: Sep 18 2002 8:59 am
- City, State: Tempe, AZ
Re: El Niño's revenge.
@johnlp
you have a gauge that measures in 16ths?
you have a gauge that measures in 16ths?
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JoelHazeltonGuides: 16 | Official Routes: 1Triplogs Last: 16 d | RS: 1Water Reports 1Y: 2 | Last: 77 d
- Joined: Mar 22 2006 7:45 am
- City, State: Phoenix, AZ
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Re: El Niño's revenge.
@nonot
Actually I think the rain is too late for wildflowers? November and December are the important months, both were obviously dry. Though, I'm fine with the desert carpeted in green grass instead.
Actually I think the rain is too late for wildflowers? November and December are the important months, both were obviously dry. Though, I'm fine with the desert carpeted in green grass instead.
"Arizona is the land of contrast... You can go from Minnesota to California in a matter of minutes, then have Mexican food that night." -Jack Dykinga
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JimGuides: 73 | Official Routes: 36Triplogs Last: 7 d | RS: 67Water Reports 1Y: 10 | Last: 143 d
- Joined: Sep 08 2006 8:14 pm
Re: El Niño's revenge.
I would prefer that my allergies not be anything like last spring. Whatever it was, from February in Organ Pipe, all the way to the end of May when I finally put the A/C on, my head was swollen shut. Flowers, no flowers, or grass, I don't care for it (my allergies). It was the first time in a decade or more, that I can recall having them like that.
I do like, "crowd pleasing poppies", as they have been condescendingly referred to, but I am not a snob for things like that. I like soft mozzarella, not some runny snob cheese from France, and bright orange poppies, not some delicate rare specimen that appears once every 25 years. See, I'm a man of simple tastes. I like dynamite, and gunpowder... And gasoline!
I do like, "crowd pleasing poppies", as they have been condescendingly referred to, but I am not a snob for things like that. I like soft mozzarella, not some runny snob cheese from France, and bright orange poppies, not some delicate rare specimen that appears once every 25 years. See, I'm a man of simple tastes. I like dynamite, and gunpowder... And gasoline!
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NighthikerGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 0Triplogs Last: 1,416 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: never
- Joined: Feb 03 2002 6:59 am
- City, State: Payson
Re: El Niño's revenge.
1.52 inch of rain since midnight at my home in Payson and snow has been falling since sunrise.
jk
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rwstormGuides: 1 | Official Routes: 12Triplogs Last: 376 d | RS: 1Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 2,590 d
- Joined: Feb 28 2003 5:45 pm
- City, State: Tucson, AZ
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Re: El Niño's revenge.
Got a nice .48 inch from the first storm, but the second one which gave Phoenix and points north a great soaking, only yielded a trace down here.
More coming though. 


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outdoor_loverGuides: 7 | Official Routes: 5Triplogs Last: 96 d | RS: 2Water Reports 1Y: 18 | Last: 96 d
- Joined: Aug 19 2011 7:49 pm
- City, State: Scottsdale, AZ
Re: El Niño's revenge.
You guys had some Decent Rain at Thanksgiving didn't you? (I don't know, I was in NM) But yes, the late Year Rains seem to be the deciding Factor...Too much Rain in January/February can actually hinder I think....
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