Atmosphere Comparison

[Jim]

The endless chatter of weather.

[RedRoxx44]

Had a squall come thru last evening, mighta sparked a fire in the SIerrita's . I drove out a ranch road this morning behind 3 wildland firefighting trucks, probably first responders. It's in desert scrub with wide spread ranches in the area. Pretty good smoke producer earlier.

[chumley]

By the old dew point method, I wonder if we'll trigger the start of the monsoon in PHX by the end of this week? Maybe Thur-Fri-Sat?
Tuscon almost got there on July 2, but that's why the old rule required 3 days in a row. They, too, should meet their threshold this week I think.

[trekkin_gecko]

I like the old method

[Jim]

The old ways are the best ways.

[CannondaleKid]

Being absolutely nothing like the monsoons of South and Southeast Asia, I like NO method... or call them something else, not just something to provide weather forecasters a bit of excitement, yup, even the NONsoon so far this year.

[chumley]

@CannondaleKid
We should also call the Sonoran something besides a "desert" because it's nothing like the Sahara!

[Alston_Neal]

I like Haboobs.

[azbackpackr]

@Alston_Neal
Big ones or little ones?

[Jim]

https://alertmap.rfcd.pima.gov/Gmap/Gmap.html

For those interested in observing up to date storm totals from the summer thunderstorms which result from the singular monsoon flow, or seasonal wind shift from westerlies to south-southeast winds rich in tropical moisture, which is different from the typically dry continental westerlies, the above link contains several possibly new rain gauges over the Bighorn Burn.

For example, Finger Rock Ridge near Mount Kimball has a new gauge that is currently reporting a 1 hour total of 59/100ths, and a 1 day total of 83/100ths.

[chumley]

@Jim_H
Language evolves. If you don't let me call them monsoons, I will literally die.

[Jim]

@chumley
I think the only thing which could atone for my exercising systemic oppression against your now obviously correct usage of the word, "monsoon", is to admit I am an evil person. I will now submit myself to the mob for my violent act against you, and ask that I be treated accordingly.

[markthurman53]

@CannondaleKid
Monsoon means change of direction meaning the weather comes in from the south rather than the north. By the definition this is a monsoon and though not as large ad the ones in Asia still a monsoon. Recognized by the meteorologist.

[ALMAL]

@Alston_Neal
Me too -ha

[Jim]

110 degrees in Phoenix today, and the 7 day forecast appears to be worse each day. What are the odds of two dry summers in a row in the desert?

[LosDosSloFolks]

We received just under one inch Friday evening here in Cave Creek....FINALLY. A nice cell parked over us and it extended north covering the entire Spur Cross Ranch area. It was much needed.

[chumley]

@Jim_H Probably pretty close to the same as two wet winters in a row!

[Alston_Neal]

We received just under one inch Friday evening here in Cave Creek

Male inch or female inch....asking for a friend.

[Jim]

Ooooo...can you feel it? There's a chill in the air. It's only 118 degrees outside, been over 116 since 4 PM. Hottest it's been since 2017!

Yeah, that monsoon, it's a-coming! I can feel it. Any minute now. It's coming, I swear. 2021, thats our year! Yeah. Gonna rain, in the summer, like it should. Yeah.

[DixieFlyer]

What are the odds of two dry summers in a row in the desert?

about the same as flipping a coin and having it land on heads (or tails for that matter) both times??? That would be 25%

That is not likely the right answer, but without knowing some additional info, that is the best that I could come up with

[chumley]

From NWS PHX:

Based on preliminary numbers, July 2020 is now the hottest month on record for Phoenix, AZ with an average temperature of 99.0 °F. This breaks the old record of 98.3 °F set in July 2009 and tied in August 2011.