Atmosphere Comparison

[Jim]

The endless chatter of weather.

[Alston_Neal]

oooooh I noticed the subtle shift in the sun and not being hit in the face with the 2X4 of heat this morning.

[Nobody01]

Yeah, past couple of mornings have been pleasant hiking on SoMo.

[SuperstitionGuy]

@Alston_Neal
I would wait another month so as to being hit in the face with the 2X2 of heat instead.

[FOTG]

@azlaurie

I still pulled off 47 miles and 10k elevation gain

Solid weekend,

[Jim]

Yeah, turning over the Bermuda grass in the row this late morning, and pruning the basil after harvesting the cantaloupe, the temperatures of 104 (today) and 108 (last evening) seemed mild compared to the reading I had last week of 117.3 on Friday afternoon, in the shade on my porch. Reminds me that I can feel cold in the shade in Flagstaff when the temperature dips to 80 after being used to 110, or so

[chumley]

PHX has logged 9 days with an average dewpoint of 55 degrees or more. Only once did it exceed 3 consecutive days (4), making this pretty close to officially not a monsoon.
https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/twc/monsoon/de ... er_phx.php

For Flagstaff, only 5 days in the last 4 weeks have not recorded below average dewpoints.

[rwstorm]

@chumley
Dismal. The summer from hell rolls on.

[chumley]

@rwstorm The one potential benefit is that the burn areas in the Catalinas and Mazzies can stand a rain-free summer to allow some grass to regrow and prevent devastating erosion from flooding.

[SpiderLegs]

@rwstorm The one potential benefit is that the burn areas in the Catalinas and Mazzies can stand a rain-free summer to allow some grass to regrow and prevent devastating erosion from flooding.

Yep, based on what the big wash near my house looked like after a gentle monsoon storm, I'd hate to see what a 2" storm in 45 minutes would do.

[Jim]

I could see that it did rain, but it looked like it never did in the Pinals. Did it actually rain elsewhere in the Tonto to open up the forest?

The 7 day QPF shows nothing for Arizona, and rain is well to the south in Mexico.

[outdoor_lover]

@chumley
Or else, the Rains will make up for lost time from September to December like they did last year. The Flood Devastation may be just delayed a month or two.

[Tortoise_Hiker]

@chumley Omg. I did a ShowLow run last night. It was my first time seeing the aftermath of the fire. The mountains above Slate creek look lik a hairless cat! That’s gonna be a mess when it rains. Also the amount of Saguaros we are gonna lose between the Ballantine Trail and Bush Highway is going to be huge!! SAD!!

[Alston_Neal]

The only benefit of the high dry temps is when I step outside a 2:00 pm and I hear the chorus of screaming Covidea burning to death. Or at least I'm hoping that's what I'm hearing.

[Jim]

Time will tell, but the current NOAA long range winter forecast shows Arizona warmer and drier for the entire winter. Doesn't mean we couldn't get a single wet rain event that erodes a lot, but we could also be headed towards a winter of 2018 when we had a high of 80 just about every day, and I think 1 storm the entire winter.

[tibber]

@chumley Omg. I did a ShowLow run last night. It was my first time seeing the aftermath of the fire. The mountains above Slate creek look lik a hairless cat! That’s gonna be a mess when it rains. Also the amount of Saguaros we are gonna lose between the Ballantine Trail and Bush Highway is going to be huge!! SAD!!

I just can't bring myself to head that way yet. I'd rather come the I-17/260 just to avoid seeing it.

I should add, this is the first July since I moved here in 1981 that I've not left town at all, how pathetic. And, of course, it's the hottest July ever

[azbackpackr]

Isolated thunderstorms expected here in Flagstaff. It's pretty hot, for here. 79 degrees at the airport at 10 a.m.

[Jim]

@tibber
I feel similarly upset about not getting out of town this year. I am contemplating a trip to southern Utah, but if showers and other amenities at Cedar Breaks NM, or Bryce NP are closed, I wouldn't want to go.

[chumley]

@azbackpackr Expected?

How pathetic does the monsoon have to be for us to expect something that there’s only a 10% chance of?

[Jim]

@chumley
I think, when talking about the, "monsoon", we should all refer back to [ Monsoon On The Way!! ] since it clearly is always going to be on it's way and never get here, this year.

This thread should remain reserved for chit chat and observations about non-monsoon subject matter.

[azbackpackr]

@chumley
Well, hey! We had a cloud!