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JimGuides: 73 | Official Routes: 36Triplogs Last: 7 d | RS: 67Water Reports 1Y: 10 | Last: 142 d
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Atmosphere Comparison
The endless chatter of weather.
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chumleyGuides: 94 | Official Routes: 241Triplogs Last: 6 d | RS: 65Water Reports 1Y: 78 | Last: 7 d
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Re: Atmosphere Comparison
@big_load
I prefer to think of it meteorologically -- already three weeks into winter. Evenings here in the valley have been getting longer for two weeks already. And mornings will continue to get shorter until the second week of January. Since astronomy isn't really my thing, solstices and equinoxes are just another day.
I prefer to think of it meteorologically -- already three weeks into winter. Evenings here in the valley have been getting longer for two weeks already. And mornings will continue to get shorter until the second week of January. Since astronomy isn't really my thing, solstices and equinoxes are just another day.
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JimGuides: 73 | Official Routes: 36Triplogs Last: 7 d | RS: 67Water Reports 1Y: 10 | Last: 142 d
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Re: Atmosphere Comparison
@big_load
First noticeably longer day is Saturday the 25th! Well, so those who measure the sun say. I don't normally notice until later January.
First noticeably longer day is Saturday the 25th! Well, so those who measure the sun say. I don't normally notice until later January.
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azbackpackrGuides: 27 | Official Routes: 23Triplogs Last: 78 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 770 d
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Re: Atmosphere Comparison
@big_load
Yes, but until January 23, in my region (near Bullhead City, AZ) the sun does not rise earlier, and in fact, until January 25th it actually rises later than it does on the solstice. This is annoying, and I think we should do something about it!
I personally don't care when it sets! To me, the days are only getting longer when the sun starts rising much earlier. All through January it's miserable: just before 8 a.m. Not until March 7 does it start to rise before 7 a.m.
Someone once tried to explain to me in astronomical terms why this happens, but I'm no astronomer, so it didn't sink in.
Yes, but until January 23, in my region (near Bullhead City, AZ) the sun does not rise earlier, and in fact, until January 25th it actually rises later than it does on the solstice. This is annoying, and I think we should do something about it!

Someone once tried to explain to me in astronomical terms why this happens, but I'm no astronomer, so it didn't sink in.
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chumleyGuides: 94 | Official Routes: 241Triplogs Last: 6 d | RS: 65Water Reports 1Y: 78 | Last: 7 d
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Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Interesting pattern setting up. Five to Ten FEET of snow forecast for the Sierra by the end of the weekend. The rim country of Arizona looking to get 2-3 inches of mostly rain, as the storm seems to be warm enough to keep snow levels mostly above 7,000. It's been trending wetter and colder with recent models though, so even the valley might get a nice rain event, and higher elevations may end up with more snow than rain. The forecast uncertainty this close is notable and will hopefully make for an interesting weekend. I prefer the snow, but winter storms in any form are good for our watersheds.
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big_loadGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 1Triplogs Last: 595 d | RS: 3Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 2,483 d
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FIngers crossed for some AZ precipitation!
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JimGuides: 73 | Official Routes: 36Triplogs Last: 7 d | RS: 67Water Reports 1Y: 10 | Last: 142 d
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Re: Atmosphere Comparison
I canceled my trip I had planned to Tule Well out on the Cabeza Prieta NWR, but I am happy to get rain in the desert. Looking less likely I will visit that area over New Year, but if it gets a good amount of rain the Bursera should have leaved out and be pleasant. Should be water in the tanks, too.
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SuperstitionGuyGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 0Triplogs Last: 1,597 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: never
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Re: Atmosphere Comparison
One and a half inches in my flooded backyard at Queen Creek, AZ (Germann & Power Road). 

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rcorfmanGuides: 1 | Official Routes: 4Triplogs Last: 439 d | RS: 2Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 889 d
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Re: Atmosphere Comparison
My wife checked our rain gauge during a quick break in the rain. 2.75". We're in Phoenix's Deer Valley. I used an umbrella for most all of my nine mile hike on the BCT today. At least it's not that cold out.
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DixieFlyerGuides: 99 | Official Routes: 96Triplogs Last: 3 d | RS: 761Water Reports 1Y: 22 | Last: 16 d
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As of 4:00 PM, I have exactly 2.0 inches in my rain gauge in Fountain Hills
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big_loadGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 1Triplogs Last: 595 d | RS: 3Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 2,483 d
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Re: Atmosphere Comparison
We got 2.5" of snow last night in NW NJ, and it was cold enough to mostly stick around. We'll get freezing rain tonight, so it's hard to say what will be left by morning.
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SuperstitionGuyGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 0Triplogs Last: 1,597 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: never
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Re: Atmosphere Comparison
A man's body may grow old, but inside his spirit can still be as young and restless as ever.
- Garth McCann from the movie Second Hand Lions
Another victim of Pixel Trivia.
Current avatar courtesy of Snakemarks
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big_loadGuides: 0 | Official Routes: 1Triplogs Last: 595 d | RS: 3Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 2,483 d
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Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Fortunately I can just stay put if I please. It's my goal to never drive in on snowy or icy roads again.SuperstitionGuy wrote: ↑Dec 24 2021 4:50 pm @big_load
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JimGuides: 73 | Official Routes: 36Triplogs Last: 7 d | RS: 67Water Reports 1Y: 10 | Last: 142 d
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Re: Atmosphere Comparison
https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/p120i.gif?1632578447 5 Days
https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/p168i.gif?1632578447 7 days
The above are the links to the graphics, as they will evolve over the next 5 to 7 days, and below are the current images. While there are storm chance starting tomorrow through to the end of the week, it looks like late next week and into the New Year there may be a very substantial winter storm, hopefully one which features lower snow levels. Thus far, at least for Mount Lemmon, I think everything has been rain. Can't say about other Sky Islands, though I doubt they are much different.
https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/p168i.gif?1632578447 7 days
The above are the links to the graphics, as they will evolve over the next 5 to 7 days, and below are the current images. While there are storm chance starting tomorrow through to the end of the week, it looks like late next week and into the New Year there may be a very substantial winter storm, hopefully one which features lower snow levels. Thus far, at least for Mount Lemmon, I think everything has been rain. Can't say about other Sky Islands, though I doubt they are much different.
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chumleyGuides: 94 | Official Routes: 241Triplogs Last: 6 d | RS: 65Water Reports 1Y: 78 | Last: 7 d
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Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Over the span of 7 hours this afternoon, the higher-elevation NWS snowfall estimates have dropped a good percentage from the original forecast. Is it a trend that will continue? Or will the rim areas above 7000 feet really see over a foot of snow in the next 36 hours?
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Re: Atmosphere Comparison
The Central Sierra Snow Lab is reporting its snowiest December ever, with 4 feet in the last two days, and 10 feet in the last week. Good stretches of the crest have received over 200" of snowfall this month. I-80 and other highway crossings have been closed since Saturday.
https://cssl.berkeley.edu/
https://cssl.berkeley.edu/
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PatrickLGuides: 7 | Official Routes: 31Triplogs Last: 8 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 1 | Last: 7 d
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Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Very nice to see California getting some real moisture.
Snowslide Canyon on the SF Peaks shows 36in of accumulated snow and more on the way in the next 24 hours.
Snowslide Canyon on the SF Peaks shows 36in of accumulated snow and more on the way in the next 24 hours.
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JimGuides: 73 | Official Routes: 36Triplogs Last: 7 d | RS: 67Water Reports 1Y: 10 | Last: 142 d
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So far, after last evening's light rain, this is the sunniest storm I have seen in while. Tucson NWS still calls for rain and snow. I guess. At this point, I am not overly optimist about snowshoeing anytime soon.
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tdwoodGuides: 3 | Official Routes: 1Triplogs Last: 206 d | RS: 4Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 1,446 d
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Re: Atmosphere Comparison
NWS is forecasting a 100% chance of less than .10 inches of rain in Phoenix this afternoon. A significant chance for insignificant moisture.
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DixieFlyerGuides: 99 | Official Routes: 96Triplogs Last: 3 d | RS: 761Water Reports 1Y: 22 | Last: 16 d
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Re: Atmosphere Comparison
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There was a 90%-100% chance yesterday and today in the NE valley, and I have yet to see a drop so far
There was a 90%-100% chance yesterday and today in the NE valley, and I have yet to see a drop so far
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azbackpackrGuides: 27 | Official Routes: 23Triplogs Last: 78 d | RS: 0Water Reports 1Y: 0 | Last: 770 d
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Re: Atmosphere Comparison
@DixieFlyer
We've enjoyed receiving your rain here in Tucson! Got a lot of wind, too! It has been raining/drizzling off and on for over 24 hours.
I just returned from two months in Florida. I was very homesick and looking forward to the dry desert, haha!
We've enjoyed receiving your rain here in Tucson! Got a lot of wind, too! It has been raining/drizzling off and on for over 24 hours.
I just returned from two months in Florida. I was very homesick and looking forward to the dry desert, haha!
There is a point of no return unremarked at the time in most lives. Graham Greene The Comedians
A clean house is a sign of a misspent life.
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