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Smartphone advances change GPS and hiking app landscape

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Apple's new iOS 18 includes topographic maps as a standard basemap in their system-default Maps app. From day 1, the map also includes hiking trails from all 63 US national parks (and will presumably add more as time goes on). Apple's updated Maps app includes the ability to download the topographic maps for offline use as well as recording and saving routes, naming them and adding personal hike notes to them. These features directly challenge some of the most dominant hiking apps by providing a free* alternative to popular paid app options.
Detailed National Park Hikes and Topographic Maps
Users can browse thousands of hikes in U.S. national parks — from Acadia National Park in Maine, to Yosemite National Park in California, to Denali National Park and Preserve in Alaska — on iPhone, iPad, Mac, and Apple Watch. To find the perfect trail, users can filter hikes by route type, length, and elevation, and follow along with turn-by-turn navigation to help them stay on track.
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/09/ ... the-world/

I've long-since believed that standalone GPS devices had gone the way of the dodo bird due to the increased capabilities of and user-friendliness of smartphones and their accompanying apps. Dominant players such as Garmin responded to this market shift by focusing on backcountry satellite communication options, something that is quickly becoming another feature that smartphones are capable of without the need for separate hardware or monthly connection fees.

With increased popularity of outdoor recreation, if Android follows Apple's lead and implements a native hiking map option in their operating system (and they both expand mapping and usability further) not only could it put the final nail in the coffin for widespread consumer use of standalone handheld GPS and satellite communicators, but it may also take a significant chunk out of the paid hiking app market, whose remaining strengths will focus more on the social aspect and the more specialized functions of mapping, tracking, and recording.

Apple, as it often does with their implementation of things, has dumbed down their hiking map features to prevent a hiker from accidentally hiking off-trail. (If you want to hike off-trail, apparently Apple Maps is not going to help you get there!) If Google enters this space with their maps I would expect a bit more freedom, but it would also probably mean the end of the line for a significant chunk of hiking app users. FWIW, I currently think the Apple Maps hiking feature is currently a steaming pile of poop. But I do expect it will improve as time goes on. In addition to national parks, in Arizona it has Water Wheel Falls included by default. So there's that.

At least for the near term, apps like Route Scout - GPS Topo Mapper will still be waaaaaaaaaay better for capabilities that Apple Maps simply does not provide. As the mapping landscape evolves, RS should still provide power-users with specialized capabilities that the mainstream phone makers don't dive into.

There are a number of articles online about Apple's new map capabilities for hiking, but this one, in particular, covers the market particularly well: https://www.hereandthere.club/post/apple-takes-a-hike
Overall, it’s an interesting development that I’ll be watching closely, and additionally a tremendous validation of the growth and size of the outdoor recreation industry. That Apple is even dipping its toes into the space speaks volumes about the trend in hiking’s popularity – both for good, and for bad.
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Standalone GPS is indeed obsolete, but I don't see myself getting rid of my InReach any time soon, even when phones have satellite capabilities. Redundancy is pretty important, and I also trust the battery on the device I keep packed away much more than on the one I'm constantly taking pictures and looking at the map with.
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In the backcountry of the San Juan Mountains today, I saw this on my iPhone. I didn’t test it, if it works Garmin inReach is in trouble. This was in the messaging application.
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@Pivo It's just a matter of time. Starlink currently has over 6,000 satellites in orbit, is already permitted for 6,000 more, and plans to increase the constellation to 42,000. Amazon is launching its own satellite constellation, as is China (and probably others). I'd guess that as more of these newer options come online, the last generation of satcoms (Globalstar, Iridium, etc.) will be happy to sell off some bandwidth to cellular carriers or hardware makers for the relatively small (data-wise) text messaging market which doesn't really require the speed that modern constellations provide for a current full-featured internet experience.

When cellular networks first deployed, phone plans were billed by minutes used, especially during the day, with limited numbers of text messages, etc. As bandwidth on those networks increased, plans transitioned to "unlimited" minutes and texts ... only to be overwhelmed when phones started to have full internet (web browsing) experiences, followed by streaming audio and video. Providers shifted their model to charging for the actual amount of data used.

I expect the satellite network rollout will follow a similar path. InReach and similar devices have been in the stage of 50 texts/month or each text costs 25¢ or whatever. But as the available bandwidth increases and more devices can connect to more networks, I think we'll see the inevitable future of never being able to escape to the wilderness for a few days of silence and solitude.

For now, I recommend you just swipe that prompt away and live in the present. :)
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chumley wrote:I think we'll see the inevitable future of never being able to escape to the wilderness for a few days of silence and solitude.
Perhaps you're unaware, but you can turn off your phone.
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@chumley
Garmin now offers the inReach® Messenger Plus SOS Satellite Communicator with Photo & Voice Messaging.
So you can send those D Picts from deep in the wilderness.
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Wonder if this is why on Sept 18 Garmin also introduced pay as you go $8/month service plan for those only interested in the inreach SOS support but the other features are available for a few pennies but by the drink.
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@Pivo
Fun feature of iPhones… they transmit location even when fully powered off! :o

(Technically an anti-theft feature).
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@chumley
Soooo, keep your phone in a faraday pouch? Unless you’re camping under a cell tower, a quality pouch will hide your phone from the world.
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@LindaAnn
Now I just need to change my life so I’m doing nefarious things where I can’t otherwise allow big brother to know my whereabouts! Muhahahahaha!
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@chumley
I don’t think it’s nefarious to safeguard your devices or privacy. I use the pouches all the time, especially for key fobs. So many of my neighbors have had their vehicle fobs activated remotely by someone standing on the sidewalk using a signal amplifier. My genius neighbor likes to leave his wallet in his truck in his driveway and it has been stolen at least three times now.
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@LindaAnn Just don't ever misplace your phone or key fob right? :sweat:
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@outdoor_lover
Would have to look for it the old fashioned way!
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@LindaAnn
His wallet or his truck? :)
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@chumley
Wallet. At this point, I think it’s the same person who just comes back about once a year to get his new wallet and cards.
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Seriously, maybe if I remember to turn my phone on once a week does this mean my keyfob /truck and house could be stolen?
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