Schultz Burn Area is open and closed in spots

[Jim]

Still closed
http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/coconino/nepa/f ... 0-11-f.pdf

[Jim]

It is. Maybe they think that since it is washed out in several places, they don't need to mention it. The pipe is still broken on that road, so we aren't getting any water from the IB this summer, again. That means the modest snow melt can flow free down and out of the basin. First spring and summer in over 100 years, I believe. The FS wants the city to build the line out to 89 by the pass and take it to town through Doney Park. It would cost millions, so the city doesn't want to. Anyway, point is, folks wanting to see free running springs and flow coming out of the basin, this is the year. Now is the time.

[hippiepunkpirate]

Anyway, point is, folks wanting to see free running springs and flow coming out of the basin, this is the year. Now is the time.

With, of course, and extra 3 miles each way since Lockett Meadow Road is closed to cars...or hiking in from the Humphrey's Trail or the Weatherford Trail

[Jim]

Hey, it's a rare event like a blue moon or a once in a lifetime flowering of a some rare, but exceedingly foul smelling plant, there are bound to be drawbacks.

[big_load]

I guess it will be a couple more years before I visit Lockett Meadow.

[Jim]

You can still get there from the Humphrey or Weatherford trails, or the road in if you hike it. You just can't drive it or camp there, legally.

[big_load]

You can still get there from the Humphrey or Weatherford trails, or the road in if you hike it. You just can't drive it or camp there, legally.

Hmmm, that gives me a fiendish idea. I could hike up Weatherford to Doyle Saddle on Day 1, over and down to the Meadow and back to Fremont Saddle on Day 2, then go to the peak and back out on Weatherford on Day 3. That would be a walk in the park for you, but I would find it moderately difficult.

[Al_HikesAZ]

Lockett Meadow survived.
http://azdailysun.com/lifestyles/recrea ... f91fa.html

[Tough_Boots]

is there any word on when the road will reopen? It might actually be a plus to keep it closed. It'll keep out anyone no willing to hike the extra 3 miles each way.

[Jim]

A humorously written piece of media misrepresentation, as usual when fire is involved. "Survived" implies death were none would or could have existed. A meadow, by definition, is a grassy open area, and since the grasslands in this area thrive on fire, fire would have done nothing more than refresh it. The photo in the picture shows the real death of the meadow: the young pines encroaching on it, slowly choking it to death. The aspen further in, around the day use parking area have already turned that section of meadow to forest. Unless the younger trees are removed, the meadow will not survive the eventual tide of forestation, and will die by the lack of fire, not from from.

"If it had gotten down into this basin, no telling what would have stopped that fire."

The basin burned in the 1890s, that's why there are the young spruce on the IB above 9800'.