Man Plans Length of Canyon hike--NO experience or knowledge
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Man Plans Length of Canyon hike--NO experience or knowledge
Hahahahaha! This seems to be a combination of outrageous arrogance, along with somewhat ridiculous levels of stupidity, naïveté and ignorance. How much do you want to bet the Park won't even issue him a permit, let alone the Havasupais. I really hope we hear more about this...
http://www.whittierdailynews.com/news/ci_19748002
http://www.whittierdailynews.com/news/ci_19748002
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Re: Man Plans Length of Canyon hike--NO experience or knowle
Suggested reading material for Mr. Ruiz:
I hope his name doesn't appear in a future edition.
I hope his name doesn't appear in a future edition.

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Re: Man Plans Length of Canyon hike--NO experience or knowle
If this guy does become a statistic, then Joe won't let us make fun of him any more! ;)bart01 wrote:@PLC92084
Job security.
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Re: Man Plans Length of Canyon hike--NO experience or knowle
He seems extraordinarily confident. I bet he'd want you to let him fly.bart01 wrote:@PLC92084
Job security.

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Sounds like a fantastic idea. I don't see anything wrong with this.
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Re: Man Plans Length of Canyon hike--NO experience or knowle
What could possibly go wrong.?
I liked the movie TopGun and I'm a spontaneous guy. I'll ask the US Navy to let me land a jet on a carrier :GB:
I liked the movie Young Frankenstein and I'm a spontaneous guy. I'll ask Barrows Neurological to let me do a brain transplant.
I liked the movie Black Swan and I'm a spontaneous guy. I'll ask the Phoenix Ballet to let me wear a tutu and dance the lead ballerina role. Or have wild pumpkin with a beautiful dancer.
When Fletcher hiked the Canyon, it went from Havasu Creek (RM 177)to Nankoweap (RM 52). Now the Canyon goes from Grand Wash Cliffs (RM 277) to Lee's Ferry. That is 277 River Miles, not hiking miles. Ruiz talks about going in at Hualapai Hilltop and hiking the 277 miles. Does not compute. Kenton ("The Factor") Grua was the first to hike the full 277 miles and it took 30 days. This kid has no clue.
Somebody tell Ghiglieri and Myers to hold the publication of their next edition until we see what happens.
This is almost as crazy as my through-hike attempt from San Diego to Denver when I was 5 years old.
I at least had the smarts to call it quits when I knew I couldn't make it.
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I liked the movie TopGun and I'm a spontaneous guy. I'll ask the US Navy to let me land a jet on a carrier :GB:
I liked the movie Young Frankenstein and I'm a spontaneous guy. I'll ask Barrows Neurological to let me do a brain transplant.
I liked the movie Black Swan and I'm a spontaneous guy. I'll ask the Phoenix Ballet to let me wear a tutu and dance the lead ballerina role. Or have wild pumpkin with a beautiful dancer.


When Fletcher hiked the Canyon, it went from Havasu Creek (RM 177)to Nankoweap (RM 52). Now the Canyon goes from Grand Wash Cliffs (RM 277) to Lee's Ferry. That is 277 River Miles, not hiking miles. Ruiz talks about going in at Hualapai Hilltop and hiking the 277 miles. Does not compute. Kenton ("The Factor") Grua was the first to hike the full 277 miles and it took 30 days. This kid has no clue.
Somebody tell Ghiglieri and Myers to hold the publication of their next edition until we see what happens.
This is almost as crazy as my through-hike attempt from San Diego to Denver when I was 5 years old.

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Re: Man Plans Length of Canyon hike--NO experience or knowle
Obviously I hope nothing bad happens to the guy, no matter how stupid he is. But I could envision reading a Reuters/AP story in a newspaper or website in a few weeks where the reporter quotes from this thread with something like "experienced hikers discussing the proposed trek in online forums roundly criticized the man as foolish" or something like that.azbackpackr wrote: If this guy does become a statistic, then Joe won't let us make fun of him any more! ;)
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Re: Man Plans Length of Canyon hike--NO experience or knowle
Quitter ;)Al_HikesAZ wrote: This is almost as crazy as my through-hike attempt from San Diego to Denver when I was 5 years old.I at least had the smarts to call it quits when I knew I couldn't make it.
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Re: Man Plans Length of Canyon hike--NO experience or knowle
@chumley I think it would be great if he took it as a serious goal and dedicated himself to becoming truly capable and prepared.
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Re: Man Plans Length of Canyon hike--NO experience or knowle
@big_load
He's starting classes again in Feb. He'd better be a fast learner...
The really sad thing is if something tragic happens, and he manages to survive (thanks to our generous influx of tax dollars), he'll probably get movie rights and book deals...](./images/smilies/eusa_wall.gif)
He's starting classes again in Feb. He'd better be a fast learner...
The really sad thing is if something tragic happens, and he manages to survive (thanks to our generous influx of tax dollars), he'll probably get movie rights and book deals...
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Re: Man Plans Length of Canyon hike--NO experience or knowle
I've been flown out of the canyon twice at the end of rafting trips, and both times were by guys who wore cowboy hats and told us they learned to fly in the Army. Flying fast and low certainly does add to the entertainment value, especially after being on a boat for 7 days.bart01 wrote:@PLC92084
Job security.
This guy doesn't seem too bright. Hopefully GC Park employees will know who he is when he applies for a permit, and deny him.
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Re: Man Plans Length of Canyon hike--NO experience or knowle
@Jim Lyding
Naw, Jim, I think they ought to let him have it. Even if Joel doesn't get Job Security out of it, I'll bet someone else will and it won't be a pilot....
Naw, Jim, I think they ought to let him have it. Even if Joel doesn't get Job Security out of it, I'll bet someone else will and it won't be a pilot....
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Re: Man Plans Length of Canyon hike--NO experience or knowle
writelots wrote:Quitter ;)Al_HikesAZ wrote: This is almost as crazy as my through-hike attempt from San Diego to Denver when I was 5 years old.I at least had the smarts to call it quits when I knew I couldn't make it.
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Re: Man Plans Length of Canyon hike--NO experience or knowle
That online article doesn't have a comment thread, unfortunately. Otherwise, the reporter would be getting an earful.chumley wrote:Obviously I hope nothing bad happens to the guy, no matter how stupid he is. But I could envision reading a Reuters/AP story in a newspaper or website in a few weeks where the reporter quotes from this thread with something like "experienced hikers discussing the proposed trek in online forums roundly criticized the man as foolish" or something like that.azbackpackr wrote: If this guy does become a statistic, then Joe won't let us make fun of him any more! ;)
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Re: Man Plans Length of Canyon hike--NO experience or knowle
The article allows and does have posted comments. It uses your Facebook profile as the interface, so you may have to be logged in to FB on the same computer you are reading the article on in order to read/post on the article. Unfortunately, so far there are more "good luck/have fun" comments than there are "perhaps you should plan this out some more" comments.azbackpackr wrote:That online article doesn't have a comment thread, unfortunately. Otherwise, the reporter would be getting an earful.chumley wrote:Obviously I hope nothing bad happens to the guy, no matter how stupid he is. But I could envision reading a Reuters/AP story in a newspaper or website in a few weeks where the reporter quotes from this thread with something like "experienced hikers discussing the proposed trek in online forums roundly criticized the man as foolish" or something like that.azbackpackr wrote: If this guy does become a statistic, then Joe won't let us make fun of him any more! ;)
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I would not mind if Facebook tried to hike the length of the canyon ...
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Re: Man Plans Length of Canyon hike--NO experience or knowle
Oh come on guys and gals, let him persue his thoughts and dreams.
After all, it is only a walk in the park, right?
After all, it is only a walk in the park, right?

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Re: Man Plans Length of Canyon hike--NO experience or knowle
Like the old aviation saying goes, "There are a lot of old helicopter pilots. There are a lot of stupid helicopter pilots, but there are not a lot of old stupid helicopter pilots."Al_HikesAZ wrote: I didn't get to be this old and wise by being stupid.


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I always heard that as "There are old pilots, and bold pilots, but no old, bold pilots."
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Not to contradict the whole group, but if human ingenuity and determination didn't beat out human stupidity more than half the time, there'd be no human race left on earth. I'm not sure the odds against his success are as uneven as you may think. 

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