Trivia

[Grasshopper]

I really like your new addition of "Arizona Trivia". interesting and informative!

[chumley]

I'll interrupt hiking 101 with totally non-hiking-related trivia facts from the home page

The strongest earthquake to rattle Arizona happened in 1887 ... near Bavispe Mexico.

The strongest earthquake known to actually strike IN Arizona supposedly happened in 1906, shaking Flagstaff with a magnitude 6+.

Flagstaff experienced strong earthquakes in 1910 and 1912 as well. Besides significant damage to brick buildings, broken chimneys, and the like, the tremors actually caused settlers and native people to permanently move from the area. One of the tremors resulted in a 50-mile crack in the earth north of the "San Francisco Range".

I wonder if there's any remnant of that crack today, or if it has long-since eroded/filled in?

I think if a magnitude 6+ hit Flagstaff today, the damage would be significant. Those old brick buildings aren't made to withstand that kind of motion.

[chumley]

Good info on northern AZ earthquakes here:
https://www.cefns.nau.edu/Orgs/aeic/reports/flag.html

[chumley]

One of the tremors resulted in a 50-mile crack in the earth north of the "San Francisco Range".

I'm reporting a copyright violation...

edit: nevermind. hikebot clicked "next". :roll:

[chumley]

Arizona boasts 3,928 peaks.

I wonder how many has Bob Packard has climbed?

[JasonCleghorn]

Arizona boasts 3,928 peaks.

I wonder how many has Bob Packard has climbed?

Probably 2500-3000 (?)

[CannondaleKid]

@Jason Cleghorn
Bob Packard has logged 2,681 Arizona peaks with at least 300' prominence.

Here's a list of his accomplishments:
7155 Total US Peaks
5796 US Peaks with at least 300' Prominence
682 Complete Quadrangles
98 Complete Counties
Peaks by State (300'+ rise) :
5 Alaska Peaks (database incomplete)
13 Alabama Peaks
2681 Arizona Peaks
66 Arkansas Peaks
281 California Peaks
868 Colorado Peaks
6 Connecticut Peaks
18 Georgia Peaks
10 Hawaii Peaks
136 Idaho Peaks
3 Illinois Peaks
5 Indiana Peaks
3 Iowa Peaks
11 Kentucky Peaks
81 Maine Peaks
6 Maryland Peaks
14 Massachusetts Peaks
9 Michigan Peaks
8 Minnesota Peaks
3 Mississippi Peaks
17 Missouri Peaks
121 Montana Peaks
14 Nebraska Peaks
189 Nevada Peaks
30 New Hampshire Peaks
8 New Jersey Peaks
262 New Mexico Peaks
53 New York Peaks
42 North Carolina Peaks
19 North Dakota Peaks
8 Ohio Peaks
30 Oklahoma Peaks
123 Oregon Peaks
43 Pennsylvania Peaks
1 Rhode Island Peak
7 South Carolina Peaks
46 South Dakota Peaks
34 Tennessee Peaks
44 Texas Peaks
201 Utah Peaks
30 Vermont Peaks
54 Virginia Peaks
109 Washington Peaks
35 West Virginia Peaks
11 Wisconsin Peaks
61 Wyoming Peaks
607 of the Contiguous US' Highest 1,000 Peaks
761 of the Contiguous US' Highest 2,500 Peaks
949 of the Contiguous US' Highest 5,000 Peaks
All 57 of Contiguous US 5,000' Prominence Peaks
924 Contiguous US 2,000' Prominence Peaks
1784 Contiguous US 1,000' Prominence Peaks
96 Continental Divide Peaks
78 Contiguous US 1,000 Steepest Peaks
All of 50 US State Highpoints
1744 of 3142 County Highpoints (and equivalents)
1206 US Wilderness Area Summits
241 US Wilderness Area Highpoints
48 of 59 US National Park Highpoints

[chumley]

Yes fascinating and impressive. But after looking that up myself, that's why I posted the question. Which remains unanswered.

I wonder what peak criteria the HAZ trivia count uses. It's a figure repeated all over the web but I haven't found one with a definition.

[Al_HikesAZ]

Yes fascinating and impressive. But after looking that up myself, that's why I posted the question. Which remains unanswered.

I wonder what peak criteria the HAZ trivia count uses. It's a figure repeated all over the web but I haven't found one with a definition.

Peakery has a list http://peakery.com/uni...

List of Arizona mountains and peaks. Includes 3223 peaks in Arizona. Click the peaks to see mountain photos, maps, routes, and summit logs for every mountain in Arizona. Also browse Arizona mountains in a big map view or photo view.

[chumley]

Arizona boasts 3,928 peaks.

I wonder what peak criteria the HAZ trivia count uses. It's a figure repeated all over the web but I haven't found one with a definition.

Peakery has a list ... Includes 3223 peaks in Arizona.

I think I'm doing something wrong. :bdh:

[joebartels]

Arizona wildflowers experience a super bloom every 11 years. The next expected super bloom is 2019.

wow, I'm always the last to hear

[big_load]

Arizona wildflowers experience a super bloom every 11 years. The next expected super bloom is 2019.

wow, I'm always the last to hear

Are they correlated with a peak or trough in the sunspot cycle?

[joebartels]

@big_load
I'd be willing to guess it's a highly scientific theory

[chumley]

Tonto means idiot in Spanish. Some call the Apache idiots for their willingness to live near the white men.

@tibber is gonna have to rename her car!

[tibber]

Tonto means idiot in Spanish. Some call the Apache idiots for their willingness to live near the white men.

@tibber is gonna have to rename her car!

actually I've been told that before but Tonto was named going thru Tonto Nat'l Forest up on the rim and eventually became the Tonto of Tonto and the Lone Ranger fame since it got me out of couple tenuous situations.
However, I often wonder how many people that know the "stupid" part laugh their heads off as I zoom by...especially with Tonto Jr.

[chumley]

Scorpions in Arizona are far more dangerous than rattlesnakes.

But are they more dangerous than squirrels in the Grand Canyon!?

[chumley]

Contrary to cartoon skits roadrunners do not beep rather they coo like doves.

Route Scout meeps. And sings.

[chumley]

Joe Melczer and Hazel Goldberg scheduled their marriage on Feb 14th 1912. They postponed the ceremony when word got out Arizona was becoming a state. They became the first couple married in Arizona. The ring bearer was three year old Barry Goldwater.

The things you learn on HAZ! This site never ceases to amaze me.

[LansfordHastings]

Yes fascinating and impressive. But after looking that up myself, that's why I posted the question. Which remains unanswered.

I wonder what peak criteria the HAZ trivia count uses. It's a figure repeated all over the web but I haven't found one with a definition.

For reference, the Appalachian Mountain Club classifies peaks in New England and New York as separate summits if they have a minimum of a 200 foot drop between a peak and its neighbor. This is how they classify the 48 peaks in New Hampshire that are 4,000 feet or greater in elevation, as well as the 14 in Maine and the 5 in Vermont. Add the next highest 33 peaks to that list to arrive at the 100 highest in New England. Climbing these and checking them off the list has been a big deal for AMC members and northeast hikers for countless years.

In addition, they also include the above in a winter season list, where you bag the summits during the calendar winter season, i.e. roughly December 31 until March 31. This can be a big deal in places like Mt Katahdin in Maine, where the park closes in mid October and getting winter access permission is a lengthy procedure.

I have done the 100 highest in New England, have finished 5 times around for the NH 48, and still have 3 summits left to finish the NH 48 in winter. A popular summit like Mt Washington in NH I've completed 21 times. At 6,288 feet it doesn't sound as impressive as a Colorado 14-er, but then you have a starting elevation of 2,000 feet or so.

[chumley]

@LansfordHastings
So are you reporting that Arizona's peak total (3,928) is derived by the 200-foot drop applied by AMC?

[LansfordHastings]

@LansfordHastings
So are you reporting that Arizona's peak total (3,928) is derived by the 200-foot drop applied by AMC?

As far as I can tell, there seems to be no recognized standard, so I doubt that the AMC guidelines mean much when it comes to other areas. I guess it's more a case of "make your own rules" when counting peaks that you've bagged. Since I started hiking in New England when I was 5 years old and now I am, er....many times that, I go with 200 feet on my own list. Your footage may vary.