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Prime time Canyoneering!
Posted: May 16 2003 3:18 pm
by joebartels
Just a friendly little reminder here to those that enjoy really cool stuff.
Devil's Canyon is just about prime season from now until late June. You might be naming your first born Tyler, Poncho or even Fritzski after this doosey
Upper Woods Canyon is prime season throughout June! (My personal ALL time favorite!)
Lizard keys up the ultimate multiday trip
Wet Beaver Canyon Loop
Hiking a mountain is cool, hiking the Superstition Ridgeline is awesome, the Grand Canyon is "grand"...
but the trips above will leave you thinking LIFE IS SO FRICKEN AWESOME for WEEKS on end!
I highly recommend!

Posted: May 19 2003 11:35 pm
by joebartels
I seriously don't see a Rav, Swift and such making it
it's not the type of thing you can back out of like Tortilla TH, further more if you're under powered you'll seriously screw up your transmission getting out, clearance is also a must
sounds like Billy is set
S-10 maybe, if I say no I'm sure it'll happen

Posted: May 19 2003 11:45 pm
by mjmann
Joe,
That's what my concern is too. Yeah maybe a 4X4 can (or is supposed to) go anywhere...regardless of the driver...but I've seen some spots where I wouldn't even take a chance. You get jammed up out there...your basically screwed. I'd rather not risk it if you think it'd be too much of a hassle.
Hey Billy...what do you think...some other weekend???...Maybe Joe will put something together for everyone???.
M-
Posted: May 19 2003 11:50 pm
by joebartels
Hey you guys throw it together I'm game
I don't mind going back a couple times
Posted: May 20 2003 2:28 am
by AK
I'd like to tag along! Someone just give the word, time and place. I don't have a 4x4, but have a friend thats type rated in UH-60 Blackhawks! Think that will get us there?
Aaron
Prime Time Canyoneering!
Posted: May 20 2003 10:43 pm
by Billy
Hey Billy...what do you think...some other weekend???...Maybe Joe will put something together for everyone???.
mjmann
Marty
Hey you guys throw it together I'm game joe bartels
I'd like to tag along! Someone just give the word, time and place. I don't have a 4x4, but have a friend thats type rated in UH-60 Blackhawks! Think that will get us there?
AaronAK
I too would love to go on a trip like this (especially if it meant I got to learn how to rappel). I am going on the hellsgate trip this weekend and so would not be able to attend but if you decide to do this trip another weekend I would be all for it.matt gilbert
Anytime you guys want to go for that adventure or any others, just let me know. I can only have use of the truck or jeep every other weekend, my personal vehicle is an Isuzu Trooper 4x4. I'm anxious to get out and do something challenging. I'm up for camping too, but can only go camping when my camping partner is in town :-) Let's keep in contact and make something happen soon. Looking forward to some great times.
Posted: May 21 2003 12:33 am
by AK
Well I'll tell you what. I've never been there before. So If one of the people that have been there before can come up with something, I'm in. I'm just not comfortable planning and going to a tecnically challenging place like that without somone with a little experience. I think Joe would make an excelent guide on a venture like this. Sorry Joe. :roll:
AK
Prime time Canyoneering!
Posted: May 21 2003 6:56 am
by Billy
I agree with you Aaron............JOE needs to lead the group, he doesn't seem to have a problem with that (thank you Joe

, thank you JOE

), so when he is up to it...........he'll just have to let the rest of us know.
Posted: May 21 2003 11:38 am
by mjmann
...and I agree with Billy! If Joe would be willing to take a bunch of us on the Devil's Canyon hike, act as a guide if you will,

...then we should set a date that is mutually agreeabale to those interested.
Like Matt I'm unavailable this weekend as I'm hiking up in Sedona...but should be able to in a few weeks.
All those in favor of Joe as the "Official Guide"...say AYE!!!
Marty
Posted: May 21 2003 12:03 pm
by Kenny
You can count on my two boots ... or teva's as the case may be.

And I will drive as far as my CR-V will take me. Hike/swimArizona is ok with me!
Sundays are better. but in a few weeks Saturdays are good.
i'm in!
Kenny
Posted: May 21 2003 12:23 pm
by jimserio
I've got a Jeep Cherokee that I've been dying to take off-roading (finally did Crown King last weekend). We can comfortably cram 4 of us plus gear in there. I think a few others here have Jeep's as well.
Posted: May 21 2003 1:13 pm
by azhiker96
I have a Grand Cherokee that should be able to make the trailhead. I'd like to hit this either June 7th, 21, or 28th. I'll be in Oregon the weekend of the 14th.
Posted: May 22 2003 1:25 am
by AK
I've got a honda civic. looks like like i'm riding with someone with a 4x4, if that someone doesn't mind. Billy has a good set of dates that i'm available for. Looks like Joe has been voted in as our guide.

Hopefully he will.
Aaron
Posted: May 22 2003 10:07 am
by MaryPhyl
I just went and read all the HAZ info on Devil's Canyon--that was fun!! MP
Posted: May 23 2003 12:48 pm
by azrocks
Please be careful. This is not a beginner canyon, and I don't believe it is
safe to jump unless someone has been down first to check for depth,
submerged waterlogged trees etc. The longest drop is 70 ft or more,
so you would hit the water at 50 mph. You can't belly flop at that speed,
you have to enter the water just right or you could break your neck.
Start canyoneering with Agua Fria, Fish Creek, upper West Fork of Oak
Creek, Wet Beaver Creek, upper West Clear Creek, Salome, Pumphouse
Wash, Buckskin Gulch. That's already plenty risky and too much fun, and
will spoil you for regular hiking.
Get proper training in rapelling, prussiking and setting anchors before
tackling Lower Devil's, and go with someone experienced.
Posted: May 23 2003 2:26 pm
by azhiker96
Sound advice AZROCKS! When I read the trail description I was surprised they found ropes left attached to the anchors. I am glad nobody used those ropes. Who knows how long they've been out in the elements? I only trust anchors I've set or inspected and ropes where I know it's history or know and trust the owner.
Posted: May 25 2003 10:46 pm
by AK
Thanks for the advice guys. Maybe i'll wait til i'm a little more in the groove.
Aaron
Prime Time Canyoneering
Posted: May 26 2003 7:52 pm
by Billy
For anyone who might be interested in getting certified in belay, the Multi Generational Center, located East of Power Road on Adobe is offering 45 minute classes to teach belay. Cost is $5.00 for the class. Equipment is provided and shoes can be rented.
Billy :-)