$8+ gas by June?

[Jim]

Gas is up to $4.50 in Maranara, and I'm sure well over that in the Valley and Flagstaff. Some places out of state are already well over $6. However, in Arizona we are still not yet seeing $5+ as a common price, if at all.

Should this change, will you be likely to alter or change summer travel plans?

I'm considering dropping a trip to the Cabeza Prieta in the next month due to prices, as I can still go next winter if they drop. However, this was in a framework of prices dropping in a few months and prices being more reasonable come summer. If gas around here is $8 on average by June, $4.50 will seem cheap, and I will wish I at least did my desert trip.

My goal this summer was to go to the White Mountains in California, a region not exactly known for cheap gas, so I probably wouldn't do that if it was at $9 or $10/gallon in western Nevada and far east California. Wouldn't drive to eastern Montana or North Dakota, either. Maybe I would visit Flagstaff, instead? Maybe I would just go to the Angle Orchard and gorge on peaches?

[LindaAnn]

Wikieup is $5.29
White Hills is $5.59 & $5.65
Seligman is also well over $5
for conventional unlead

[Mountain_Rat]

@LindaAnn
Could you at least try to sound a little disappointed about those prices?

[cactuscat]

From a fb group ..

[The_Eagle]

I know I'm dating myself now, but when I first started driving, I vividly remember paying .27 cents a gallon. Is that about a 3 billon% increase?

[PatrickL]

@cactuscat
Furnace Creek remains the worst place to fill up in Death Valley. They were charging $6 or $7 back in December.

[DixieFlyer]

I know I'm dating myself now, but when I first started driving, I vividly remember paying .27 cents a gallon. Is that about a 3 billon% increase?

I can remember buying gas for a quarter a gallon, although that was an "off-brand".

That is a good illustration of how much the US dollar has depreciated. In 1964 you could have bought a gallon of gas for a quarter. Today, the silver content of a 1964 quarter is worth $4.65, so you could still buy a gallon of a gas for a quarter if you have the right quarter!

[azbackpackr]

@chumley

Personal budgets are highly individualized. The percentage of ones income spent on automobile fuel is pretty low for most people. But if your budget is constrained, it's not uncommon for non-work travel to be a place to cut costs. Most people can't make a significant reduction in their base expenses, whereas "extravagances" such as travel, eating out, buying hiking or backpacking gear, permits, etc. are "low-hanging fruit".

Thing is, everything else will go up, too. Probably not space rent for my RV, but groceries, which already have gone up, and everything else consumable.

[chumley]

everything else will go up, too

Everything else has already gone up. Since last year food is up almost 8% in Phoenix, housing almost 12%, recreation 12%, transportation 20%, clothing 15% ... but but but GAS is $5!!!

The focus on gas is interesting to me.

[Jim]

It was related to over supply and a global recession which the US was not affected by, but in 1999 I was briefly paying 75 cents a gallon in NJ. It had been about 1.15 to 1.25 in the year before. Still.

everything else will go up, too.

Except wages, which will lag and not increase as rapidly, if they will ever track this current energy price spike. Nor can they as the volatility of gas has increased dramatically over the last 3 years. In fact, the volatility is what makes something like this so dramatic, as our entire society is built around oil. With 64% of Americans living pay check to paycheck, it doesn't matter if those people never hike a minute in their life, a huge spike in something like gas means suffering.

When I posted this thread I thought we might see mid-5s and that would suck, so people would cut back on hiking or alter plans. I didn't think it would come so fast. Now, $8 to $10 is likely.

Also, things like river trips which had an agreed upon contract price are not going to increase in price, and many of those were sold well in advance of this price spike. So, a lot of businesses will have to eat those costs.

[cw50must]

I was enjoying this work from home for the last 2 years, seems now it just sort of evens out.

[Jim]

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Just do what Steven "Colbert" Hilton says, and forget about those high gas prices.

[Jim]

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Dam Putin!!!

[SuperstitionGuy]

If your gonna need gas get it for free! Go siphon it out of somebody's car, preferably a car with a Biden for President sticker (if you can still find one)!

[rcorfman]

@SuperstitionGuy
Was there ever any, I only remember Trump bumper stickers?

[SpiderLegs]

Was there ever any, I only remember Trump bumper stickers?

- They are about as common as "Build Back Better" bumper stickers.

[RedRoxx44]

@SuperstitionGuy
Good time to invest in those locking gas caps. The Jeep has a valve in it to prevent gas from leaking out in case of a rollover so cannot be siphoned; don't know about the Toy. However I read that the thieves like big lifted trucks; they will drill a hole in the tank and let gravity fill their cans. That sucks because at least if they siphon you would have an intact gas tank.

[Jim]

[ youtube video ]

Alternatives exist if your tanks is compromised.

[hikeaz]

Was there ever any, I only remember Trump bumper stickers?

- They are about as common as "Build Back Better" bumper stickers.

81 million votes, but I've never seen a single person wearing a Build Back Better hat.

[Alston_Neal]

81 million votes, but I've never seen a single person wearing a Build Back Better hat.

Probably the same reason why none of them also weren't wearing tactical vests and AR-15s.

[hikeaz]

@Alston_Neal
biden says "take away the AR-14's".
Kerry says " no one needs AR-16 with a long clip."
They just like imaginary models with even numbers I guess....