New Discovery Series

[Nighthiker]

Discovery Channel premires new series featuring Cody Lundin and David Canterbury in Dual Survival. Starts Fridday at 10pm (phx. area). Worth postponing your night hike.

[PLC92084]

I'm looking forward to that (as long as they don't over-dramatize as they are wont to do...). Thanks for the reminder!

[Al_HikesAZ]

There was a nice article in the Arizona Living Section of the Arizona Republic yesterday. Cody would not be associated with (too much) BS

June 11, 2010 |
Arizona Living
Discovery Channel's 'Dual Survival' show features Arizona expert
John Stanley - Jun. 10, 2010 12:00 AM The Arizona Republic
Off the coast of Nova Scotia, two men paddle a life raft to a small island.
They have no food, no shelter and only a few items besides the clothes on their backs.
Their task: survive two nights of sub-freezing temperatures in the snowy woods.
That's how the first episode of the new Discovery Channel series "Dual Survival" opens.
The show, which debuts at 10 p.m. Friday, features primitive-living-skills instructor Cody Lundin of Prescott and military-trained outdoorsman Dave Canterbury of Chillicothe, Ohio.
"The premise of the show," said executive producer Tim Pastore, "is we've got these two survival experts with different backgrounds and personal philosophies. And they're put together in survival situations, and then we sit back and watch them showcase their skills."
During the series, the mismatched duo tackle real-life survival problems ranging from lost hikers in the jungle to fishermen who run out of gas while deep in the swamps of Louisiana to separated campers in the Arizona desert.
They filmed in 10 locations around the world, three of which were in the United States, and are currently in Brazil, shooting the final episode.
Pastore is excited about the results.
"I was at the Nova Scotia location, and when I saw them on the beach and saw Cody get out (of the raft) in shorts and bare feet, I knew we got it," he said.
The perpetually barefoot Lundin, who sports long blond braids and a silver nose ring, is a striking presence, at once commanding, gentle and blunt-spoken.
"He's pretty much everything you want for a show," Pastore said. "From the beginning he was always spot-on, ready to go and spoke from the heart. He says what he wants to say, and that's the magic."
At first, Lundin had concerns (which he posted on his website in the form of an open letter) not only about the series format, but that genuine survival techniques and situations might be manipulated for the dramatic needs of a TV show.
"The first thing I asked when they approached me about the show was whether it was a competition," Lundin said. "I had no interest if it was a competition. Survival is about cooperation. If you compete, you die; if you cooperate, you live."
Although he has yet to watch the shows himself, he's pleased with the overall level of control that he and Canterbury had.
"I'm really happy so far with how I can be me and Dave can be Dave and I can get the majority of my needs met and still be OK with looking at myself in the mirror," Lundin said.
Odd couple
When the producers found Lundin, they knew they were onto something. The 43-year-old founder, director and chief instructor of the Aboriginal Living Skills School has since 1991 taught primitive-living skills, such as making fire with sticks and catching fish with bare hands, and modern outdoor-survival skills, such as what to do when your SUV breaks down in the backcountry and rescue is days away.
The producers' challenge then became to find someone equally strong to cast beside him.
Dave Canterbury, 46, joined the U.S. Army at 17 and eventually became a Special Reaction Team instructor, sniper and scout. After leaving the Army, he worked as a commercial fisherman, a diver and a hand on a reptile farm. He had been posting survival videos on YouTube for years and now teaches wilderness survival at his Pathfinder Training School in southeastern Ohio.
Although Canterbury respected Lundin's survival expertise, he pointedly questions his techniques on the show's first episode, especially Lundin's propensity for going barefoot and wearing shorts in all weather.
"I'm a common-sense kind of guy," Canterbury says at one point. "I have a hard time buying into this bush-hippie logic."
"This is who I am," counters Lundin. "This is how I live my life."
"They were an odd couple, but they looked out for each other," Pastore said. "Viewers can watch the relationship grow between Dave and Cody, see how they work together and learn from each other."
Survivor tales
"There is a longstanding literary tradition of survival narratives," said professor Peter Lehman, director of the Center for Film, Media and Popular Culture at Arizona State University.
It began, at least in the English language, with the 1719 publication of "Robinson Crusoe," he said, and has continued in both film and television, and includes TV shows such as the just-finished series "Lost," which developed a cultlike following.
Survivor tales function on two levels, Lehman said.
As adventure stories, they focus on how the hero gets out of jams. On a larger scale, though, they provide a frame in which readers - or viewers - can contemplate such philosophical issues as what it means to be a human being apart from culture and civilization.
The shows also give us the chance to see how other people cope in extreme circumstances, Lehman said.
"We wonder," he said, "will the situation bring out the best in them, or the worst?"
Survival shows may also reflect our sometimes nebulous angst over today's widespread economic, environmental and political uncertainties, just as the countless space invasion/evil mutant sci-fi movies of the 1950s reflected the anxieties of the first generation to come of age in the shadow of nuclear weapons.
"It's also that whole man-versus-nature thing that has inspired stories since the dawn of time," Pastore said.
Realistic scenarios
The show, Pastore said, strives to be both educational and entertaining.
"I think all the scenarios were very much like real life," Canterbury said. "Wandering off trail, running out of gas . . . they're situations that people could really be in."
Despite the perilous scenarios they faced, there was never a time when they felt their lives were in danger. At least during filming. But the danger of infectious diseases, food poisoning, remote locations with horrible roads and the ever-present possibility of accidents hung over cast and crew alike.
Canterbury said the most difficult scenario for him was the one filmed in Arizona.
"I'm more of a woods and jungle and swamp kind of guy," he said. "To go out where there's no water was hard. But Cody's a desert expert, so I kind of leaned on his expertise in that episode."
"That's what's cool about the show," Lundin said. "We play off each other's strengths and knowledge."
Engaging the viewers
Although scenarios were based "on real crappy things that happen to real people," Lundin is aware that most viewers just want to be entertained. And that's perfectly OK.
"I think a good educator is an entertainer," he said. "If people aren't being entertained, they're not learning. That's what I try to do with my books and survival courses. People see this hippie with no shoes and it gets them engaged."
And although he hopes some viewers may pick up a few tidbits of survival knowledge, he said the show isn't meant to be an instructional video.
"It's (expletive) TV," he said. "It's entertainment. If you want to learn survival skills, you need to get your butt up off the couch and get outside and train with someone knowledgeable."


Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepubli ... z0qZPAN1ex

More on this topic
'Dual Survival'

What:Survival experts Cody Lundin of Prescott and Dave Canterbury of Ohio team up to take on 10 survival scenarios around the world.
When: Premieres at 10 p.m. Friday on the Discovery Channel.
Details: Lundin's website is codylundin .com; Canterbury's is wildernessoutfitters archery.com.
Canadian cold, clams and roasted porcupine
The first episode of "Dual Survival" was filmed in January, in Nova Scotia.
Army-trained, no-nonsense outdoorsman Dave Canterbury almost immediately questions primitive-skills expert Cody Lundin's "bush-hippie logic."
"The very first time we were out it was 20 degrees, and there's this guy wearing shorts and going barefoot and someone watching at home has got to be wondering what this guy's doing," Canterbury said.
Some of his questions, Canterbury said, were meant to get viewers up to speed on Lundin's philosophy and approach to survival.
"But some of it was genuine feeling. I was wondering if that might be dangerous, if he could really handle (the cold)," Canterbury said.
The first day, they dined on mussels and clams that Lundin gathered. Although Lundin described them as "easy calories," Canterbury was underwhelmed.
"Dave's a meat and potatoes type of guy," Lundin said. "I could have pulled in a lobster and he wouldn't have been impressed."
Taking matters into his own hands, Canterbury made a dinner of fire-roasted porcupine the next night.
Lundin was pleasantly surprised.
"It tasted a lot like roast beef," he said.
- John Stanley

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[big_load]

Interesting. I heard somebody describe an episode who completely fell for Canterbury's take on the other guy and was convinced the other guy couldn't handle any real survival situation. I would have listened less politely if I had known the other guy was Cody Lundin.

[PLC92084]

OK....... Preliminary impression is not so good... I was left with the definite feeling the producers are OD'ing (over dramatizing). And my initial impressions of dirt worshiper hippy-guy Cody aren't overly favorable (though his ideas on the shelter were pretty cool... ).

I'm willing to give the show one or two episodes to shake out and see how things go. This could be like NCIS LA where it takes a few shows to grow on you...

Any other critics out there with an opinion!? So far... this show does NOT get two snaps and a circle...

[te_wa]

I would vote to cancel your cable, replace your television with a fish tank, and read the book "98.6 degrees, the art of keeping your pumpkin alive"
but that's just me

[JimmyLyding]

I would vote to cancel your cable, replace your television with a fish tank, and read the book "98.6 degrees, the art of keeping your pumpkin alive"
but that's just me

I used to have 2 fish tanks. 1 was a 55-gallon full of African cichlids, and the other was a 30-long full of South American cichlids. I used to watch them for hours, but that was during a time in my life when I was into different things.... [-X

[PLC92084]

Te-Wa... while I'm sure many of Cody's ideas are sound (some say acupuncture is bogus but I don't agree...) I have to worry about his credibility after reading the following:

Cody Lundin and his Aboriginal Living Skills School have been featured in dozens of national and international media sources, including Dateline NBC, CBS News, USA Today, The Donny and Marie Show, and CBC Radio One in Canada. -

These are NOT credible sources! ...but I do like fish tanks.

[tibber]

I think I'll have to wait for the next episode. However, I did find it interesting with the highlight being that incredible shelter and the porcupine.

There is also a special on the Animal Planet called the Last Cowboy that looks at 3 different kinds of ranching operations in Montana (family style using horses and cattle, modern style using air and ATVs, one man operation). I am familiar with one of the families. I wasn't sure if I could watch the calving assist part but I did. The amusing part for me was when they were having to deal with rounding up a cow or cows... you lose your patience quickly and get frustrated cuz you have to chase the cow(s). It's hard on them and the horse and you feel bad about that.

[Canyonram]

Into Season Two of Dual Survivor. In my opinion, the episode 'Slash and Burn' that first aired on 4/22/2011 crossed the line. The set-up was that two hunters were out hunting with flintlocks/black powder and one of the hunters suffered a severe cut. To illustrate how to survive this event, Dave acutally carved his arm with Cody's knife (to have a real cut) and then the two sprinkled black powder into the bleeding wound and ignited the gunpowder to cauterize the wound. I can see macho-man Dave Canterberry doing this type of thing but was surprised that Cody Lundin went along with the 'show-and-tell.' While there is a subset of hunters who do it the old fashioned way and hunt like mountainmen, there are very, very few people who engage in outdoor recreation who would ever have opportunity to treat a wound by igniting it with black gunpowder. To actually carve oneself and then set if afire is more 'show-and-tell' than is needed to make the point. An explanation and demonstration---without the bloodshed and the fire---would be sufficient for training purposes. To prevent a burn injury requires that the gunpowder ignite, seal the wound, but not continue to burn and create additional damage. (Look for some drunken yahoos trying to mimic this procedure on Youtube with blow torches, matches, lighters, burning coals, etc.)

I took a course on wilderness medicine and emergency treatment years ago. We covered basics on stabilizing a broken bone, etc and how to tie splints. We didn't break any bones for demostration purposes, which is probably coming up next on Dual Survivor. Perhaps Dave will allow Cody to jump from a cliff and land on his outstretched arm so as to provide a 'real' broken arm that they can wrap for the camera and before they head back to the production trailer.

The goal in any survival scenario is to remain intact and injury free. Way off base to demonstrate how to 'slash-and-burn' by, well, doing a real 'slash-and-burn' where no injury existed.

[Alston_Neal]

The first thing my wife said was...Oh great now how many 13 year olds are gonna try this?

[PLC92084]

I saw where Rambo was able to cauterize his more-severe wound with the powder from a 7.62 round . If it's good enough for him, Dave and Cody should have no worries !

[big_load]

I hope they only faked it. Besides possibly not fully cleaning the infection, I'd be worried about scarring, and not just on the surface.

[kevinweitzel75]

It's all about the ratings. I saw that episode, and it looked pretty real to me. either that or Dave is a pretty damn good actor. Cody looked pretty reluctant when Dave was talking to the camera saying what he was going to do.

[Sredfield]

I find most commercial television, and radio for that matter, would insult the intelligence of a rock.

[Alston_Neal]

I find most commercial television, and radio for that matter, would insult the intelligence of a rock.

I agree it's so hard to find quality shows anymo.......wait a sec ............. Jersey Shore is coming on.....be right back......

[Canyonram]

In case your kids missed on how to set themselves on fire with black gunpowder:
http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/dual-su ... -3-videos/

If the link doesn't work, go to http://www.discovery.com and find Dual Survival Season 2 'Fire Bandage'

The full episode (about 40 minutes) is posted on https://www.youtube.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT4jzKiu4Fk