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Espejo ButteNorthwest, AZ
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After a 222 day layoff from the Canyon, I decided it was time to get the band back together. I bait and switched Dave and Karl with talks of Deva and then countered with easy strolls out to Espejo and Commanche, luckily that was still enough to get them off the couch.

Karl saved the day by braving the drive down off the rim from the Desert View area, my original plans had us starting at the tower parking lot. This saved us approximately four miles of hiking. The drive is clearly doable with stock 4runner, or stolen work van (see photoset) but you won't ever catch me driving that with any of my vehicles.

We started hiking at approximately 6:45 a.m. to a beautiful morning and pleasant temps. After just under a mile we came across an extremely stuck work van that appeared to have been stolen, judging from the broken window and mangled steering column. Needless to say the van will not be driving out from its current location. Unless a helicopter is lifting that van out, its going to become a part of Grand Canyon lore. The NPS is aware of the van and have painted that on the side of the van to let passersby know.

We caught up to a backpacker around mile two and as expected did not run across anyone else the rest of the day. We cached some water near our "junction" with Comanche and Espejo. For Espejo we took the some out of the way road towards Gold Hill and then exited the road to reach a basin with a pretty distinct elk, or horse trail down its center. I do not know if the basin has a name, but foxtail basin would be a good name, if it does not have one. The route to the rim was pretty straightforward and our elk/horse trail pretty much took us the whole way.

A class four scramble gets you off the rim and down to the saddle of Espejo and the rim. The route starts just north of the crumbly ridgeline and generally stays right (north) for the duration of the scrambling descent. Karl and Dave got down what is probably the toughest scramble of the route with general ease, but neither one was feeling the slab obstacle that followed and they chose to stop there. I continued on down a series of obstacles and steep terrain to nearly the base of the Coconino, before traversing back towards a steep chute that finally took me to the Espejo-rim saddle. From the saddle its a blocky, pretty straight forward scramble to the summit. I made my visit short, as Dave and Karl were waiting on me and then returned the way I came.

From Espejo, we pretty much took the rim of the Grand Canyon west to Comanche Point. The route was a little up and down and I will admit I was bonking some, but the views along the rim were superb. Thankfully, we had a strong breeze and sporadic cloud cover to give us some reprieve from the heat. Its a class two ramp approach to the summit of Comanche. Bare left to avoid the little drainage just below the summit. The views from Comanche are absolutely stunning and we all wondered if there were any other views from the rim that offered so much cover of the Colorado River. Comanche seems to get a lot of visits from looking through the register. After an extended break we made our way back to our morning cache of water and then returned the way we hiked in.
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Espejo ButteNorthwest, AZ
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We drove out the night before and car camped around Grandview Tower area. Next morning we got up early and drove to Desert View. Then followed the dirt down to the trailhead about 2 miles. Not the best road but doable taking it slow to avoid collateral damage.

About 645am start and nice morning. First, part of the hike follows the Cape Solitude trail which is old two track and about a mile in found an abandoned work van. Lee has a better pic [ photo ] . Two track follows the drainage for the first 2 miles or so before crossing over a few ridgelines. Basically, followed the two track Cape Solitude trail until we were in the vicinity of Espejo Butte. From there it was off trail and up hill over to the rim approach for Espejo Butte.

We started down picking our way through the top layer and trying to find the route. Lee found the class 4 route and continued down some good drops. Dave and I got passed the first really steep drop but on the second we both decided we were not really up for that much adventure today. We told Lee we would wait on the ledge for him to return and we did have a really nice shaded spot to wait and watch his progress over to Espejo. Eventually spotted him on the other side picking his way up slope to the butte. It took awhile about 2 hours round trip but he successfully summited….I believe number 59?

Took another break once Lee returned and we had a decision to make. Go back down to the valley and follow two tracks and other routes (longer) or follow the rim off trail (shorter) to Comanche Point. We decided to follow the rim off trail to Comanche Point. Despite being shorter probably did not save us any time but the views were fantastic along the way and glad we took the rim.

Reaching the final ascent for Comanche we had about 600 feet to climb. Unlike Espejo this was not a class 4 route and basically an easy walk up but it did have maybe the best rim views I’ve ever seen in the canyon. Another good break on Comanche taking it all in before the descent.

Made it back down to the original two track Cape Solitude trail and then a quick two miles back out to the vehicle. Fun trip even though was not able to get Espejo Butte…Comanche Point was a good consolation prize!
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Cape SolitudeNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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A couple weeks ago a friend reached out to me and asked if I would be interested in going to Cape Solitude, and I said, of course. I hadn't ever done any serious dry camping, but I figured it's just like wet camping, but with a heavier pack...

Saturday
Started out with 6L total water, but figured I wouldn't need that much since it wasn't going to be very hot. Relatively uneventful for the first 4.5 miles or so, then we dropped out packs for a side excursion to Comanche Point. Armed with my phone, GPS/topo, about 16oz of Nuun and absolutely zero research on the route (on my part at least), we headed out. I figured there were two possibilities: head up the ridge to the north and drop down to the drainage, or take the road towards the drainage and drop down where it's shallower. I suggested the latter since I had no clue how steep the drainage would be. The actual climb up Comanche Point was steep at first but very straightforward, with no real scrambling required. The side trip was extremely worthwhile, with Comanche Point being one of the more interesting views along the rim that I've experienced. It was a new perspective on the canyon, and I really appreciated the sheer amount of red in the area below.

We took the other route back to our packs, as the climb back up to the ridge looked easy once we saw it, and I'd agree with others who would suggest this is the preferred route. If I had a do-over, I'd have dropped the packs at the start of the climb at the point, and then followed the drainage all the way down to reconnect with the Cape Solitude trail at the Navajo Nation boundary.

After returning to the packs, we hiked a couple more miles and dropped some water under some juniper trees, which were few and far between the rest of the way. The 2nd half of the hike out to Cape Solitude is mostly flat and desolate, but also easier walking. We found a few juniper trees a quarter of a mile from Cape Solitude and decided to camp there, so we dropped our packs and wandered the rest of the way to enjoy the sunset at the overlook. What a sunset it was!

Went back to camp and got my tent set up in the last throes of twilight, and made dinner in the dark. As we were settling in, it started sprinkling, and soon after the wind gusts picked up. This kinda put the kibosh on any real evening socializing for me, as I was a little worried my tent would blow away. After ~4 sleepless hours, I had the crazy idea to actually take off the rain fly on my tent so as to make it less sail-like, and this actually worked, with the tradeoff being less heat retention.

Sunday
Got everything packed up and ready to go by 7:30am or so. Just before setting off, I saw some mud under my pack, and the bite valve on my bladder detached, and learned that I had accidentally dumped a liter of water. Fortunately I had a half liter left in a bottle (although there was plenty to spare in the group), so it really just meant that my pack was a liter lighter. But on a different day a silly mistake like this could be catastrophic...

The hike back was uneventful, slightly grueling, and we managed it in a little under 5 hours.

Overall it was a great little trip, although I'm not really in a hurry to go back to Cape Solitude. The camping isn't great and the hike there isn't super scenic. Honestly I thought Comanche Point was more interesting, and I'm really glad our trip leader had that on the itinerary.
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Comanche PointNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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I noticed that there was not a gps route posted for
Comanche Point, so I decided to post this out-and-back
from June 2017.

Many thanks to squatpuke for the accurate hike
description. I chose to park high up on the Cedar
Mountain road rather than four-wheeling down the steep,
rocky, switchbacks that lead to the intersection with
the old Cape Solitude jeep trail (which is now for foot
traffic only, as squatpuke has written); this choice
adds 1.9 miles each way, but you can probably walk the
rocky switchbacks almost as fast as you can drive them.

The old Cape Solitude jeep trail is mostly easy to
follow. For the first 1.2 miles of this trail, the
two-track goes gently downhill either in, or adjacent
to, the main feeder wash for Straight Canyon (which
eventually dumps into the Little Colorado). At the
1.2 mile mark, the wash becomes a rocky narrows; just
before the narrows, the two-track goes steeply uphill
on the eastern side of the wash. At this point, don't
bother to follow the road, just stay in the wash. Once
out of the narrows, the wash makes a sharp curve to the
east; the jeep trail now comes in steeply from the
south and crosses the wash from south to north; at this
point, leave the wash and follow the jeep trail north
and uphill. Another 1.1 miles will bring you to the
"split/junction currently marked with large cairn".
For much of this 1.1 miles, a one-track foot path
parallels the old jeep trail; I sometimes hiked on the
foot path, but overall I saw no advantage to that choice.

From the jeep-trail "split/junction", you are now
free to choose your favorite route to the low "saddle"
(I would probably call it a basin) which serves as the
starting point for the final climb up to Comanche Point.
As squatpuke writes, from the "split/junction" you can
follow the westerly jeep trail into the drainage which
leads down to the "saddle" area, but this route is a
bit out of the way. On my outward trip, I simply
wandered west and north from the junction, making
my way down the hillside into that drainage. On my
return trip, I climbed steeply out of the "saddle"
area up to the north-south ridge which parallels the
drainage on its eastern side. I think this return
route is actually the preferred one; I found the
north-south ridge to be easy and obvious cross-country
walking. Also, from the ridge you have a nice view of
your destination, which is not quite as obvious when
you are approaching in the drainage.

From the low "saddle" (at about 6335 feet, and, by a
few feet, the low point of this hike), all that remains
is to make the final entertaining climb up to the Point.
The climb is often steep, but no hands should be required
if the proper route is chosen. The cairn with "old antler
and spinal bones" was still at the Point as of this trip.

This was a gorgeous, cloudless day with great visibility.
The view is every bit as dramatic and beautiful as you
would expect. Many miles of the Colorado River and of the
Tanner trail are wonderfully laid out below just for your
leisurely inspection. All in all, a wonderful hike, far
away from even the June crowds, with an unforgettable
Canyon view.
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Comanche PointNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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Birthday summit!

Jamie and I led our new coworker, Andrew, out along the Cape Solitude road and cross country.
We spotted a bighorn, some lion poo that my NPS buddies gather was about 2 weeks old ((my other coworker, Frank, went out the Cape Solitude on March 19th and saw the lion in the Comanche area))

At the summit, Andrew headed back, he had to work on Friday, and Jamie and I set up camp near the summit.

Our plan was to also reach Espejo but it was a brutal haul the way we chose, ugh, we're taking the road next time!! Less CHOLLA!!

I buried a tiny pinch of my Dads ashes on the summit at the base of a very tenacious pinon pine, enjoy the view Dad!

Around noon on my birthday (the 18th) we began our hike out and we're led out to the ridge by a soaring bald eagle!!! What a wonderful sight to see...

We'll be returning, maybe in a week or so to finish what we started with Espejo Butte.

Until then, you stay classy Hike Arizona ;)
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Comanche PointNorthwest, AZ
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I first heard of "Comanche Point" from Wayne Tomasi's awesome GC Adventure book; then later, at the Desert View veiwpoint/tower, I witnessed it's prominence as it jutted out northwest along the Palisades. I knew I had to stand from its point and check out what MUST be an incredible view of the Eastern Grand Canyon.

I assumed it would be a simple and easy (read:flat) jaunt out to Comanche and I would take the relaxing 5 or 6 mile weekend stroll out there...and would even camp a night to make that much easier. As is typical with most GC adventures, nothing goes quite as planned. :)

Several weeks ago, I got a BCO permit (for 2) and marked my calendar. I started to ask some local hiking buddies but no one seemed interested in this vague Canyon location on top of the rim. I finally coaxed my BFF from Kingman (Todd) to go as well as a 65 y/o gentleman (Peter) from my men's bible study group. Peter had often told me of his capabilities and outdoor adventures during group and was often inquiring about joining up with me on an adventure. I figured this 'easy' hike would suit us well. (I emailed BCO and they kindly increased my permit to 3 for free since we were not below the rim).

We all met at my house and crammed into my old, creaky '87 forerunner. Poor ol' Pete, being the smaller of us, had to constantly crawl across the downed-front seats to get into the back of my small 2-door truck. Also, the A/C and the rolldown of the back window QUIT working LONG ago :) thus all gear/passengers must enter/exit over the front seats and lop into the back... :lol:

We arrived at DV and got a camp site around 6:30 p.m. Red skys were brewing and violent storms threatened in every direction. We never scouted for an open campsite before using the self-serve kiosk...so we just opted to take the one right by the check in station and bathrooms (#11)...it was a very busy and noisy location with persistent hand-dryers and electronic beepings of the kiosk.

ODDLY, we got ZERO rain that night and the 3 of us each had a cozy evening in our rainfly-covered tents. We got up early and causally prepped for our adventure.

I had read how nasty the drive on "Cape Solitude" road was...and was expecting the worse...and it was. Wow, that road is BAD. Very ROCKY...we were getting tossed and bumped all the way down in my 4Runner, emphatically aided by the laws of gravity; I knew we would have a tough time getting up and out on this steep rocky road...it also made me very anxious the next two days thinking about this drive up and out. My buddy Todd is a bit of a "home" mechanic and very handy (and calm) dude. Having him on the trip increased my confidence. (When we did leave Sunday it was CRAZY...I had to use 4Low and we slowly crawled up the road for those steep 2+ miles...there were at least 2 VERY, VERY tight & rutted sections that demanded...ahem...expert driving skills.)

We arrived at the trial-head parking area past the mouth of Tanner Canyon, marked, "No Vehicles Beyond This Point - Foot Traffic Only". Tire sidewalls looked scratched up...but not flat!! This was a good sign. We geared up and hit the trail. I had gathered some older online triplogs/maps for hiking Comanche, but only had a vague notion of what to expect and where to go. I also had my Oregon GPS and was very glad I'd brought it.

This area is HARSH man!! The footpath (old jeep trail) is faint (and/or bypassed) in many sections. About 4 miles in, we reach the first split in the road...and take the "easy way" to Commanche which is left (west). It curves back south and west into a wide pasture with old fence posts. We think we are lost, becaus the road simply fades out. After concurring this fact on the map, we start north making our own trail. I'm actively looking for a resemblance of the "saddle" area I had seen in an online photo. A mile or so later we find the saddle and start browsing around for a camp area but they are scarce. After several arguments with Todd for the best location we finally agree on a spot and start to rest. It's still late morning. Comanche Point can't be seen from here since you're basically sitting in a small valley. We have a general idea of where to go, so after the siesta, Todd and I start up the west face of the saddle. Peter decides to call it a day and stays behind. ;)

We climb to the top of first rugged uphill section only to find more grizzled terrain in front. We continue to climb in a north westerly fashion until we reach the Point which has a large cairn, covered with bones and an old antler. The views are UNSPEAKABLY AMAZING and reach far in both directions (see pics). We hang out for a while, then find some shade under a small juniper then finally, go back for a second look...camp is probably a mile away and 600+ lower. This trip alone cost Todd and I about 1/2 a gallon, but was worth every drop.

I tell Peter of the tremendous views, but he's already cleaned up and content with staying at camp. It's still pretty early in afternoon and I had every intention of guiding Peter back up in the evening but he politely declines. I think all 3 of us are worried about our water situation which is quickly depleting.

We finish the day off with Todd and I playing a game of "pluck the empty plastic water jug off the rock at 10 paces". I won't say who won. Beautiful weather that Saturday, slept w/o the rainfly that night...but slept horribly as I usually do when backpacking.

We get up early next morning and start heading out. Instead of going back the same way we came, Todd and I decided to make it interesting and take the saddle's eastern canyon which we think heads directly back to north-south jeep trail. Reluctantly Peter follows. We travel about a mile or more and see the bend to the plateau about a mile or more away. It would take us considerably more north than Todd wants to walk, even if it is flat. So he suggests we climb out of the canyon. I'm very reluctant, since I only have about 1/2 a liter of water for the entire 5+ miles back and I don't really want to climb. He insists it will be shorter for us and we playfully argue. After the first southern climb and as I expected, there is simply more canyons navigate up then down again. Now I'm a bit perturbed and Todd and I start arguing which shakes up Peter pretty good this time. We aren't lost, but it feels like like it to Peter. (Remember Todd and I are BFF's from high school and know how to argue with each other, it's not a pretty sight. :D )

We continue with Todd's plan for a few more ups/downs some of which are pretty steep. Peter is about to have a meltdown, so finally I break out my GPS and use breadcrumbs to navigate us back to the junction mention earlier in the report. We definitely were headed the right direction...I still would have preferred the longer flatter route vs. Todd's vertical best guess.

We get back to the truck (thank God the tires weren't flat) and muscle out of the Cape Solitude road. We hit Desert View General store for some great tasting ice cream then bust out back to Flagstaff. Good ol' Peter buys the 3 of us lunch at the Silver Saddle Cafe...yummy stuff. Great trip!! Fun memories!
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Comanche PointNorthwest, AZ
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