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Hell's Hip PocketPhoenix, AZ
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Canyoneering12.40 Miles 1,968 AEG
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I've had this adventure on my mind for awhile so it was finally time to get it done. Wanting to make it a full adventure and get myself back on the water, I decided to kayak to Blue Tank Canyon from the Acacia picnic area which put me 4 miles away. Nothing like a 2 hour kayak trip to start the day. The morning was perfect, only a few boats on the water to toss me around which is both fun and annoying at times. Upon my entrance into the snaking salt river portion of the lake I could see big horns up on the ridge above which is always sweet to see, my eyes and camera couldn't zoom any further to get a real good sight of them so on my way I went. About a mile from Blue Tank, I spotted four more sheep right near the waters edge which I couldn't believe. I made my way on over to them hoping they wouldn't run away too fast on me, but to my surprise I was able to get as close as you can to them and they didn't budge. The closest I've ever been to one that's for sure, and it was quite the sight to see.

After taking in the sheep sights I finally made my arrival to Blue Tank Canyon. It was nice to kayak right in the narrow portion of it and get as far in as it will let you before you hit ground again. My only concern for the day really was someone taking my kayak while I was out, I know it is a bad thing to think could happen but hey. I gathered my things and made my way up Blue Tank. You are challenged a few minutes in with a good 15ft climb up some boulders, the rock is solid and there are good holds so it was a fun start to the hike. The narrows you go through to start are amazing and then the canyon opens up to greet you with some brushy areas and today all I can say is the brush won. The area is not seen by many so there is no easy way around these brushy areas. In the middle of the canyon is the running spring and a lush area which seems surprising for the area. After I made my way up and past the spring I encountered some fresh scat which I was sure was kitty. I could see faint tracks which would indicate it to be a kitty and I went on full alert and was actually thinking of turning around at this point since there would be no way for me to spot it ahead of time with the brush and many boulders and alcoves in the rock all around for it to be lurking in.

It was a tough decision but I continued on since the confluence of Blue Tank and Hells Hip Pocket was just ahead of me and I thought once I got elevated I would be able to spot anything and be able to see anything moving around. So just after the confluence you can head up and the area opens up to amazing views. Four Peaks are close and you are offered a great view and angle you don't get anywhere else that i've seen. Looking back down on Blue Tank and the area is spectacular and then there it is, Hells Hip Pocket below. I make the traverse above it to get to a spot I can enter the canyon easily. I take a nice break in the shade to eat lunch and hydrate up.

After lunch the fun comes quickly as the technical section of the canyon comes with a downclimb and then the first rappel which is as scenic as they come. A nice sculpted chute right down into a pool you cannot see but know is there as the rope makes the splash after you throw it down. Off rope and into one of the best canyon room I've ever seen. I soak up the view and get my rope ready for the next rappel which is a few feet away. The amazing sculpted rappel into the pool you have to swim. I take a few pictures and enjoy the area before getting on rope again and making my way to the pool. Luckily the water level was just low enough for me to land on a ledge just out of the water which was perfect for me to retrieve the rope and put it away before swimming on down the hallway in some pretty water. Pretty murky that is, a nice aroma was lifted when I stirred the pot but hey it is what it is. With the temps still warm, the water actually felt pretty nice to be in and not chilling you to the bone it could be. Once out of the pool it is time to make my way back to Blue Tank and go back on kitty watch to get on out.

Going back down Blue Tank seemed to be pretty fast and I was back to my kayak in just under an hour, thinking there was a kitty around put a little extra pep in me and I just wanted to get out of there safely and fast. Luckily the only thing I encountered in there were all the lizards sunning up. Back to my kayak and out for the long haul out on the water. The afternoon was terrible as it was boat after boat going by which just made the haul out take forever. But all in all it was a great day and an amazing area to finally see.
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Skeleton CavePhoenix, AZ
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3 years, 3 attempts, 3 hiking partners...so yes, it's going to be a descriptive read this time around and yes I know, that's a LOT of photos for 2 days, but it's 3 years worth!! :A1:

So for starters...THANK YOU PLC & VolcanoCLMBR could NOT have done this without you guys and I mean that. I had a blast even through the prickly, pokey, stabbing, dehydrated misery ;)

Early start, left road 401 without a glance back.
I won't say it's "easy going" but it's really just a matter of following game paths, avoiding cholla/prickly pear/saguaro etc and not losing your breath when you head uphill (over and over and over and over!)

Down then up then down then up, you get the idea.

What felt like 3 weeks later we found ourselves just above Blue Tank Canyon, I found a cholla big enough to lend me some shade and sat down...in a pile of ants, leapt up and ended up with cholla in my neck. Onward!!

We spotted the holes in the rocks in BTC and the saguaro that stands watch over the "waterfall", the whole area was dry as a bone. We traversed the "hill" to the south of the Blue Tank's bed heading generally south west until we could see the other side then we cut sharper south and crawled gingerly to the edge of the abyss known as Hell's Hip Pocket...from there we scampered east up and over up and over up and over and finally we spotted "the way down"

We had separated here and there to push our way through to the clearest path, once I gave a shout we regrouped, headed down into a boulder wash then bushwhacked up to the top of a rocky ridge. There the guys took a break and I blazed ahead to be sure this was the way down, I clearly remembered doing this with GOYAAH on my last trip out here, I returned to the guys and together we made it down in HHP and a few hundred yards up canyon we decided to clear a sandy spot and make camp right there on the "beach".

Frankie brought the beers, PLC made a tiny fire to stay warm by and I attempted to blend into our surroundings with my mass amounts of green gear.
After hours of swapping stories and fighting our eyelids we went our own ways and snoozed a good 9 hours. I only had one ringtail bunny disturb my slumber, it seems it was licking my half empty beer can...

Up with the sun we filtered water another few hundred yards up canyon then headed up.
The jump to reach the chock stone (should call em the Devil's Jewels!)was a bit too big of a jump for my tinyself so the guys passed my pack along and I made a pretty sweet climbing traverse over the water on the right side.
The Devil's Jewels were pretty sweet, not difficult to climb up but going under with a full pack isn't easy. We handed them up one by one, I went last to snap a few photos and made sure everyone was up and adjusted before scrambling up.

From there you pretty much just stay up and along the "creek bed" I know that sounds weird but there is a wash type thing that spills into the bowl behind the Jewels and if you follow it up its mostly easy going. Not far ahead on your right is a gentle slope that leads to a hill, we apparently went wrong and just hiked up and over the hill.

At the top you should see the Salt River, then you head over and down a slope into a drainage, at the end of the drainage you get an overlook of Skeleton Cave, but to reach it you have to go up and over and up and over to the west then follow a scrambly little "ridge" down to the west and along it as it curves back east and toward the cave.

Hug the wall to approach the cave, its a steep yucky slope and voila! :y:

The climb out is much...more exciting than everything you'll have experienced thus far. Especially the way we went. We had no desire whatsoever to return the way we came so we headed east around a bend along the stream bed (the one we climbed into after the Devil's Jewels)we scrambled along that for under and hour, somewhere in that time we happened upon a mini-slot canyon with a deep pool of crisp water, we filtered a bunch of water from there and continued on.

We climbed out and hiked up the nearest hill in minutes, from there we could easily make out the ridgeline we were to follow out to Cane Spring TH.
That 4-5 miles was a super highway compared to what we went through on day 1! We made great time and spotted a tiny bark scorpion, a rattler, a gorgeous red cardinal and a HUGE hissing Gila Monster all within 45 minutes. :y:

We took one last break at Cane Spring camp or whatever it is, I changed socks, I'm soooooo glad I brought 3 pairs! It was great to cycle through them throughout the hike :lol:

We hit road 401 again and still had yet another gajillion miles to go to get to the vehicle parked a mere 200 yards from the giant berm...we split up and hiked our own paces, I went into beast mode and pushed up every hill like I was born to do just that. The views as the sunset were spectacular, the pink and orange splashed up against the Supes Ridgeline and Weaver's Needle, I wish I could have captured those colors to share with you all.

We made it to the car just after sunset.

We're probably the only backpackers ever to hike the length of road 401 from Cane Spring to Cottonwood Creek Camp :sl:

Not gonna lie, as I sit here at home curled up on the couch with a glass of wine in hand a cat on my lap I pulled up my ten thousand photos and start looking through them and I wondered to myself...who willing does this?

Even better what kind of crazy mind tries again a second time gets to within a MILE of their destination then has to give up and STILL RETURNS A THIRD TIME... : rambo :

I always said third time was a charm so there you have it ladies and gents. On the super bright side, I feel amazing today! 100% refreshed! Not sore, not stiff, pretty exhausted mentally but other than that I'm ready for another adventure!

I guess it's time to find something new and exciting to go for!


Note to future adventurers:
It's dayhike-able if you're crazy and hike the first 3 hours in the dark, if you reach the cave area in the dark you're risking your life. Just backpack it, take 3 days to do it all in the light of day and if you really want to enjoy every step of it. It's a GORGEOUS area, BEAUTIFUL scenery for miles around, enjoy it, don't push through it just to do it in a day, its not worth those few moments where one wrong step and you'll be calling for help where none will come...make smart decisions.
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 Phoenix
Skeleton Cave Loop, AZ 
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I took this backpack trip just like every other trip ove taken....with the confidence that it would be just another great fun time in nature. I have never been so ready to say "forget this, im out" after just the first day.
All that cholla, catclaw and some of that prickly pear just got to me and thats on top of hiking like 6+ rocky miles on FR401. Aside from those little desert intricacies i enjoyed the challenge off-trail desert navigating, almost running into that rattle snake, coming across a beautiful Gila monster, doing some bouldering, and traversing some real cool slot canyons around Hell's Hip Pocket. Our camping spot was just a narrow sandy creek bed around HHP. Ive seen some writeups for Hell's Hip pocket canyon where swimming may be required....as of February 24, 2014, theres hardly any water in that canyon and quite possible in other areas around Blue Tank, HHP.
After having had a rough time on the first day we decided that we didnt want to go back the same way so with the GPS track downloaded we decided to make our way up to HHP Ridge after having made it to Skeleton cave on sunday morning.....and it was a wise decision as the route was much more scenic and enjoyable all the way to Cane Spring TH. This is a very remote area of the Four Peaks Wilderness and great caution and preparation should be taken into account before attempting this area. I brought along 5 liters of water and six microbrews to keep properly hydrated but when we encountered a small pool of water along our way out of HHP I quickly drank all of my remaining water and topped off with a freshly treated 4L of water.
I would second all other hikers recommendations of wearing long pants and long sleeves for the entire duration of the trip.....Hippy's bloody shins is enough evidence for that.
Overall it was great to team up with Paul and Haley and get this seldom explored area finished and have helped Hippy get this thorn off her back!
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Skeleton Cave via Cane TH, AZ 
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I'd say Joe's triplog was pretty accurate so for the hike portion I don't have much to add.

When I first heard (and felt through the floor) that loud deep thumping sound I certainly shared the same feeling as Joe... oh pumpkin and so much for today's hike ](*,) . But, with neither of us willing to give up that easy, we set about finding a solution, albeit temporary, to get us back on the road (although I'd hesitate to call it a road... maybe a rough and rocky goat track). Having experienced teething problems on my Samurai before, I had plenty of tools as well as a number of blocks of wood. So with a brand new hacksaw blade cutting a 2x2 to the size required took but a few moments. Joe came up with the great idea to use a screwdriver to "drill" the needed hole in the wood block. : app : Thanks to a nice sharp-edged Snap-On screwdriver we alternated twisting it until the hole was through. Next was trying to locate a bolt to complete the task. I opened the hood and scanned around for something I could scavenge... nothing. Then around to the back and Joe asks, what about this? pointing to a bolt acting as one of the hold downs for the high-lift jack. So thanks again to Joe we had a hole in the block and a bolt to use. Although the bolt was a tad bit too long, with some judicious placement of washers I made it work. We started the repair in the dark but the sun was up by time we got moving. With the delay I wanted to drive a bit faster to make up some time, but not knowing for sure how the temporary mount would hold up along with a rockier road that just a week ago that wasn't in the cards.

Having just been out to HHP Ridge a few short weeks before I was familiar with the terrain and the scenery, but once out there, there's just no end to the beauty to behold. You can bet I'll be out this way more than a few times.

Having missed Grasshopper Lounge the last trip, it was nice to actually set foot in it... if only for a short time due to a nest of wasps. :scared: The general route was good thanks to piecing together a few of Joe's previous trips so all we needed to do was scan ahead to avoid the worst obstacles. With Skeleton Cave in sight it seemed our task for the day would soon be completed... until Joe said we had to go up higher, then way down below us and then up to the cave. What!?! all this just to get to a cave only 300' away??
While the mind wanted to go for it the body was having none of it. My hamstrings and quads were starting to cramp up a bit. :stretch: At the time I assumed it had to do with a previous injury, but now a day later I believe it had more to do with a lack of nourishment. What with the drama of the broken mount and all, not only had I forgotten to eat my breakfast at the trail head, I left two sandwiches in the cooler. :-({|= So I had nothing but my Gatorade, one Clif bar which always make me want to drink a lot more and a few small granola bars for the whole trip. But by taking it slow and keeping a relatively steady pace we made it back safe and sound.

And then comes the drive back! With the road so much worse than last week and two weeks ago as well as the temporary mount issue, I was not looking forward to driving up the shelves.
Ha! Here I thought it would just be tough, but with the air locker dumping air faster than it could hold it we were in for a real challenge. ](*,) The solution I had to resort to was a little bit more momentum, which just meant Joe and I were shaken like rag dolls.(insert rag-doll smiley here) Now if that had only gone on for a hundred feet or a hundred yards it would have been tolerable, but it went on for MILES. Already having burned many more calories than I took in during the day, it was brutal keeping both the mind and body in-synch to accomplish the task. The mind was taxed by the possiblility of another vehicle breakdown, selecting the right lines to avoid getting hung up or rolling over while the light fading fast. Physically taxing was manhandling the manual steering with a mean kick-back, working the clutch and choosing the correct gears, :wlift: so by time we got home I was totally spent. Although Joe wasn't doing the driving, he was just as beat up as I was and he looked as spent as I was by time we got back.

Full set of 95 photos are here:
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But what an adventure! :y:
Thanks Joe for enduring everything that was thrown at us. :worthy: It was great meeting and hiking with you.
P.S. With all that went on I'm curious what kind of Kokopelli I may have morphed into? Although Tracey wasn't there, knowing me she's willing to bet on Chatty-Kopelli.
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Hell's Hip PocketPhoenix, AZ
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Woot! :y: We were successful in reaching Blue Tank Canyon & Hells Hip Pocket via packraft. Umm, or should I say $20 glorified pool toys from Big 5... :sl:

Wow, what an amazing adventure! So Saturday late at night we met up and drove out to that Horse Mesa Dam road and got to the gate around 10pm and quickly walked down the road to the lake and camped at along the wide flat sandy beach down there. Most peps would build a fire to get warm, but we pumped up our packrafts that night and that about the same affect. :sweat: My foot pump made it a heck of easier than making out with a big plastic blow up toy. Sleeping on the sandy beach was great but we did wake up a tad cold in our bags that chilly morning. Just all the more reason to get up and get paddling. :) It was a little chilly paddling along upper canyon lake but our wetsuits helped out a lot and the views more than made up for it. Having our ours in kayak mode dripped too much on us, so we all quickly switched them to canoe mode and that worked good enough. I of course brought extra oar pieces this time and good thing I did because I ended up breaking 2 sections at the threading in a matter of 5 minutes when we were just a quarter mile from Blue Tank Canyon. From the sandy beach, it's about a mile paddle to the amazingly sweet lower slot of Blue Tank and it seems to go by fairly quickly. Paddling up that slot was SO exhilerating and you quickly see why it's called Blue tank as you hiking thru those first narrows and the tall walls are a bluish grey. :o Some light scrambling, pools to negotiate, and of course loads of rock hopping as we slowly made our way up this amazing canyon to the confluence with Hells Hip Pocket were the canyon slowly got more bushy. :? From sat photos, we had drawn up a route to get above the narrows of lower HHP and thankfully the traverse went just as planned. It involved hiking up Blue tank past the confluence, scramble up that first small drainage on the right, contour it east past two drainage of HPP, pass by the backbone of a large mammal that's possibly human, and then descend down to the middle section of Hells Hip Pocket. The middle section of HPP is fairly tame with some more rock hopping & light down climbing but we soon hit the first technical drop were we suited & geared up. : rambo : The first rappel was a sloped 50ft drop thru a slick chute into a super sweet alcove and chilly knee deep water. This was quickly followed by an even more amazing narrow hallway with a 45ft drop into a super chilly 70ft long swimming hole. Hmm, this must be where the name Hells Hip Pocket came from and probably named by the US Calvary venturing thru these parts back in the day chasing down the Apache. ;) After that 2nd rappel, the canyon mellows a bit while still staying rather narrow with plenty of scrambling & rock hopping before reaching the confluence again. Hopping back down Blue Tank was as scenic as before but went by fairly quickly as were seeing the hours slip away and needing to push back to the lake. Thankfully our pool toys were still there and full of air and after some great photos of launching thru the narrows, we got to paddling back up the flat & quiet Canyon Lake. Hmm, wasn't there a foozeball game going on today?!? Like the thieves verse the packagers or something like that... :lol: It was sweet to have the place ALL to ourselves and we chillaxed and paddled out way back to the beach. Wouldn't you know I break another oar section, even though I switched to the less forceful kayak mode. :roll: I was so close to the beach and some duct tape did the trick for that last quarter mile... Such an amazing journey, but unfortunately it was now coming to an end. ;) Slowly deflated our mini rafts, packed up the gear, retrieved our camping gear from its hiding spots in the bushes, and slowly made our way back up the SRP road with the sun setting & dusk descending on the beautiful Fish Creek Canyon. :D

SRP road walk: About 2.5 miles each way, with 1000ft gain on the way out...
Packrafting upper Canyon Lake: About 2 miles each way to & back from Blue Tank Canyon
Up Blue Tank & traversing into middle HPP and back: About 4.5 miles and another 1000ft of gain
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