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Mormon Battalion Trail - Christmas Camp - 2 members in 11 triplogs have rated this an average 1.5 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Oct 20 2024
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Mormon Battalion Trail - Christmas CampPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking14.62 Miles 505 AEG
Hiking14.62 Miles   4 Hrs   38 Mns   3.31 mph
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Chilly, early morning set up of a motorcycle shuttle for this through hike. It's debatable whether this route could be rated higher than the overhyped Cabin Loop. :-k
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Mar 14 2020
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49 male
 Joined Apr 18 2002
 Phoenix, AZ
Mormon Battalion Trail - Christmas CampPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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rehlersTriplogs 46
Hiking7.00 Miles 100 AEG
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Parked off AZ238 and walked 2.2 miles to the eastern start of the trail. The start of the trail can be easily missed. Look west and a little south from a big empty BLM sign just off the dirt road to see a metal white marker at the top of a sign post. The trail starts easy enough to follow but disappears to almost nothing but your imagination not long after. Turned around after about 3.5 miles total from highway.

Trails are still closed to vehicles. There were some new looking signs put up along the dirt road regarding driving offroad responsibly. Perhaps they are planned to be re opened at some point. The walk along the trail/road was pleasant without all the off road noise, though.
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Oct 22 2016
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 Mesa, AZ
Mormon Battalion Trail - Christmas CampPhoenix, AZ
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charlieazTriplogs 194
Hiking4.50 Miles 373 AEG
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Since this area is now BLM land and camping is not permitted without a permit I felt it a privilege to be able to camp overnight at Christmas Camp and hike a portion of this trail with a group of Boy Scouts. I led a group of 120 Boy Scouts and their leaders to mile marker 2, where we all gathered to wait for those at the end of out group. I gave a little history there about the trail, a part of which was operated by the Butterfingered investment group and later by investors Wells and Fargo . . . yes that "Wells Fargo" who ran a stagecoach business. I shared the story about the robbery near the Butterfield notch and the Oatman massacre. Then we pressed on, headed north to catch the road running parallel to the trail and took that back to camp. Total distance 4.5 miles by my GPS. We left camp at a little after 8:00 am but by the time we were nearing completion it was HOT. This is Mid-October! Sheesh
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Feb 20 2015
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Mormon Battalion Trail - Christmas CampPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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mt98dewTriplogs 2,387
Hiking9.95 Miles 373 AEG
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This was my second planned hike for my decompression Friday. This hike wasn't quite as planned as Picacho (did not download a track on my Garmin), but it had been on my list for awhile and I was in the general vicinity so..... Got to mile marker 26 around 11am. Pulled inside the gated area and checked out the info kiosk. It didn't say much and nothing about any trails. But having read the previous write ups on HAZ, I knew I had to go in 2 miles on FR8003 to reach the TH. Since I don't have a lot of faith in my car and there are still signs indicating no motorized traffic I decided to hoof it from there. By doing this it added 2 miles to my hike prior to reaching the Mormon Battalion TH.

The TH was located just past North Tank and oddly enough what looked to be a thrown together campsite. There were handmade signs pointing to the area and what appeared to be numbered campsites. And, there was actually a car out there. The trail/road starts off by immediately crossing a very sandy wash. On the other side of the wash there appears to another info kiosk. But this one is worst than the one by the highway. This kiosk has no signage at all. I was about to keep heading along FR8003 when I noticed a frame metal steer head off to the left. Followed the trail for about 3 miles before I lost it and turned around
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Nov 22 2014
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55 male
 Joined Mar 05 2011
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Mormon Battalion Trail - Christmas CampPhoenix, AZ
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WoodsnativeTriplogs 880
Hiking4.50 Miles 10 AEG
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Nov 21 2014
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Mormon Battalion Trail - Christmas CampPhoenix, AZ
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kingsnakeTriplogs 894
Hiking15.51 Miles 615 AEG
Hiking15.51 Miles   5 Hrs   43 Mns   2.71 mph
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FR 8003, from AZ 238, near the Estrella Siding, to Christmas Camp at North Tank, was very smooth, though some deep areas might make it difficult for cars. The deep areas were either actual powdered dirt or a very fine gravel that was smaller than pea gravel, but larger than grains of sand. There were animal tracks everywhere, especially in the powdered dirt, but also even in the hard pack to the side of the road. There was literally 0 AEG from the highway to the tank. I've never seen that: Usually there is at least some slight ups when going down. My first AEG came when I climbed the tank's berm. : rambo :

From Mile Marker 0, it is 5.5 miles and 250 AEG to the FR 8002 intersection. :sweat: The trail is mostly easy to follow but, if you lose it, the hard pack is easy to walk on, and the only cacti are a few scattered barrel cactus. 90% of the non-wash vegetation is creosote; the rest bursage or brittlebush.

While technically the Mormon Battalion trail is also FR 8003, motorized traffic is not allowed. I saw a ton of human prints on the trail, as well as a fair number of horse prints. It was odd to see so many human prints, for being in the middle of nowhere, and not altogether scenic with the nearest mountains being several miles away.

The older wooden markers were placed by the Kimball Stake, while the metal cow skull markers mostly seem to have been placed by Bryan Jarman as a 1987 Eagle Scout project for the East Stake. Troop 507 placed an additional plate under one marker in 2002. The skull marks are supposedly every mile, but I found two that were only a quarter mile apart. :-k

The east trailhead registry / de Anza sign is at the intersection of FR 8003 and FR 8002, which appears to be open back to AZ 238. There are "No motorized traffic" signs all up & down FR 8002, while they are also spaced every 100 yards or so west along FR 8003 (the Mormon Battalion / Butterfield trail). So, driving appears to be okay, as long as you stay on designated forest roads. On an otherwise shadeless hike, a rather large palo verde provides welcome mid-day relief at the intersection.

From the intersection to the top of the pass is 150 feet in 1.5 miles, which qualifies as "steep" on this hike. After leaving the intersection the vegetation changes to occotillo, saguaro and hedgehog cacti. The sign announcing Butterfield Trail Campsite is still misplaced two miles east, just before the top of the pass. Saw several interesting saguaros, including one that looked like a squid, and several others which looked like they were having quite a party. :whistle:

It drizzled from 1245, just after I arrived at Happy Camp, until about 1305, after I started up the saddle between Estrella BM and Hill 2065. The many washes before and after that saddle were not deep, but had quite steep sides. The key was to stay midway up the slope. Despite the saddle having a healthy field of cholla, I adroitly avoided puncture. (Until I sat down for a break, and got a few in my :pk:.)

The final half mile followed a fence to the clearing on AZ 238, just east of Shawmut. By sheer luck, I came out at the exact point my wife was waiting for me. :y:

I took 132 pictures and 30 audio notes. 8-[

Was hoping the Garmin 62S-estimated 16.7 miles would at least be close, allowing me to break a personal mileage record ( http://hikearizona.com/photoset=15253 ), and indeed it held up. Barely. :roll:

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Lots of water, but damp areas along the bank indicate it might be drying out.
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Nov 03 2013
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charlieazTriplogs 194
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We were supposed to do 5 miles for our Stake Camporee. The guide in front of the group ended up taking us for 2.5 miles round trip instead. Dang.
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Oct 26 2013
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Mormon Battalion Trail - Christmas CampPhoenix, AZ
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Overnight camp with a group of scouts. One of them left his tent door open and a bag of peanuts in there, so when he went to bed he met a kangaroo rat. Other wildlife included kit foxes, coyotes, deer tracks, and of course lizards.
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Jan 14 2012
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Mountain biked north from highway 238 to Christmas Camp, and then along the Mormon Battalion trail westward. My goal was to find each 6' metal milemarker post and mark them as Waypoints along the trail. My plans went awry when I followed the wrong wash a few miles in. Even though I had been on the trail before (going west to east), the trail at this point has turned into a narrow wash, complete with shrubs on both sides. It is indistinguishable from either direction. Traces of hikers' and animals' footprints are found on both sides of the wash, --and on both sides of every wash...

After a mile side trip, I regained the trail by finding the cowpath leading to Conley Tank, going southwest, and meeting up with the trail. I backtracked a little to look for a mile marker.

Ironically, my second goal for the day was to lay down a GPS track so that others would not find themselves off trail. But what good is a track with a whole lot of wandering and backtracking? Oh well, I guess I found out where NOT to go. Anyway, thanks to some editing and checking out aerial photos back at home, I got the track straightened out and ready for uploading. Thank goodness for sattelite pictures!

After reaching the western end of the 5.2 mile trail, I signed the trail registry and got ready for stage 2 of my trip: Butterfield Pass over to the cistern. The road was very sandy in some parts, and I had to walk my bike to make it through. The Happy Camp cistern looks like it has been rebuilt, and doesn't look like it has ever had water in it. Personally, I have a hunch that a nearby depression under a tree was the original cistern...

Feeling saddle sore (I am not that great of a mountain biker), I had some lunch and a nap in the shade to regain some energy. With only 2 hours left of daylight, I decided to make a push and get back to the top of the pass quickly. I surprised a lone coyote in the process, who was returning from the guzzler.
Once I made it to the top of the pass, it was all downhill from there. I turned south at the trailhead, and cruised down the dirt road to the highway. After a few 'highway miles,' I finished the loop back to my truck.
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Nov 11 2011
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Hiking11.00 Miles 373 AEG
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What did you do on 11-11-11? Thanks to our Veterans I had the day off, so I hit the trail with a Boy Scout troop from Gilbert. They were all age 11, hiked 11 miles, and did it on 11-11-11.
We started out near the Shawmut area (bend in highway 238) and headed north for 2 miles of cross-country. On this section we took some time to practice our map reading and route finding skills. At the Happy Camp cistern we took a break before heading east over Butterfield Pass. I started out very tired and practically fell asleep at the cistern; -but that was all I needed and I felt much better after that. In reality, most everyone in the group had their own moment of tiredness somewhere along the way.
Once we got onto the eastern section of this hike, we relied on satellite pictures of the area to help find the little-used or overgrown sections of the trail.

In the end, it was a long hike but a great accomplishment for a group who had never hiked so far in their lives. Lucky for us, all the camp gear was waiting for us at trail's end.
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Mar 13 2010
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Camped at Christmas camp and volunteered on a 'road removal' project with the Boy Scouts, to take out some of the off-road tracks in the area.
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