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Mescal Ridge Trail #186 - 2 members in 4 triplogs have rated this an average 2 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Jun 11 2016
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Bear Flat Trail #178 - Tonto NFPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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toddakTriplogs 577
Hiking21.00 Miles 3,500 AEG
Hiking21.00 Miles   11 Hrs      1.91 mph
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Northern Hellsgate sampler. Mail Trail is a nice new addition. Tonto Creek was running orange from the overnight rains.
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Bear Flat Trail #178 - Tonto NFPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Hiking30.88 Miles 6,440 AEG
Hiking30.88 Miles   13 Hrs   38 Mns   2.55 mph
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I return to the Bear Flats TH to finish off the connector trails. I got to the TH at 8:30 and it was cold. The Tonto creek was higher than the last time I was here, so I crossed the bridge instead of the creek to start the hike.

The trails I did were:
Bear Flats
Mescal Ridge
Mail Trail
Big Ridge

Bear Flats
Within minutes I went from shaking cold to sweating buckets on the steep climb out of the creek. It looks there’s been recent trail maintenance or high activity. A lot of the high grass has been cleared away and some of the brush has been cut back.

Mescal Ridge
The trail offer nice views of the surrounding area. The trail is easy to follow. The trail ends at a tank. At the tank, I found another old road/trail and followed that until it turned into a cattle path.

Mail Trail
This was an impromptu trail for me. I read Stillers comments about a trail that’s not on any maps. The trail starts about 1.3 miles from the Bear Flats TH. There’s a wilderness boundary post. Others have seen a trail sign, but I didn't. I saw a long plank of wood on the ground that might have had writing on it at one time. There a distinct trail heading up the side of Christopher mountain. The trail follows a drainage and is steep (as if the climb out of the Tonto Creek wasn't!). Soon the trail left the drainage and started to switch back. I could see a saddle and I pushed for it. At the saddle I saw a lot of signs of cattle activity. The trail pushed forward going up the side of Christopher mountain. The higher I got, the more cattle / horse tracks I saw. Near the top there was cairns. The cairns would help on the way down due to the numerous cattle paths. Near the end, the forest was burned out. The trail ended at the Christopher mountain RD. I turned around and went back to the Bear Flats Trail. I might come back to explore around Christopher mountain. The Mail Trail is maintained. Almost all of the fallen trees have been cleared away.

Big Ridge Trail (aka the big climb out)
The Big Ridge trail is about 6 miles long. For the first 2+ miles it stays around the 6,000 feet mark. Then it starts to drops. It doesn't drop gradually. It drops from shelf to shelf by hundreds of feet. You’ll drop about 200 feet, then it flats for a little bit, then repeat. The drops are very rocky with loose dirt. The scenery changes with each drop. The trail drops into the Salt Canyon where it ends. The maps show the trail ending in the canyon, but the road continues on another 2~3 miles to the wilderness boundary. I took lunch by the running stream. I wanted to continue on the road, but I knew I had a long climb out. The creek elevation was 4,350 and I had to climb up to 6,000. I may come back to finish off the road.
I had hoped to check out the Ellinwood ranch. I went down the road (to the ranch) to where it started its steep drop and turned round. It was getting dark, plus I didn't need any more extra climbing for the day.
It might be possible to connect the Mescal Ridge and Rig Ridge trail if you bushwhack and do some canyoneering. If someone figures out a safe route, I might be convinced to try it out.


It was typical Arizona Fall weather day. Cold in the morning extra warm around noon and extra cold after the sun dropped. This was the maiden voyage for my new Ospray backpack. My old pack shoulder straps were started to rip off. The Ospray worked out nice.

The adventure didn't end with the hike. I had a tire blowout 1 mile from the bee-line. It wasn't fun changing a tire in the dark when your freezing.
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Sep 26 2014
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Bear Flat Trail #178 - Tonto NFPayson, AZ
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This was my first time to the Hell’s Gate Wilderness. The trail-head was nice and cool. I crossed the Tonto creek and got on a spur trail that looped me to the old jeep road. Boy that road is steep! After the Mescal Ridge intersection, the Bear Flats turns into a single track until it leaves the Wilderness. Then it turns back into a ranching road.

The Bear Flats trail is like the old joke “I walked to school uphill both ways”. The Bear Flats trail has a bunch of rolling hills. You bounce around between 5,500 and 5,800 for most of the day. The neat thing is that there’s a lot of shade on this trail. You’re in a thick forest for most of the trail.
There’s numerous tanks everywhere. I went to the end of the trail at FR200. I took FR200 to Fisherman’s Point and went down to Haigler creek. I then headed to Haigler Canyon campground and had lunch by the creek.

I went back on Bear Flats trail and went down the Big Ridge Trail. Up to this point it was a mostly sunny day , but now the clouds rolled in. It started to rain, then it poured. Then there was two quick flashes, then 2 huge booms. I decided it was time to start heading back. The rain stopped about 45 minutes later. I went down Mescal Ridge trail for a bit as well. Usually I don’t hike on a new trail in the dark, but this one was pretty easy to follow with a flashlight.

The last drop into the Tonto was steep. I’m not sure if it’s harder coming up or down this section. It was an interesting hike. I’ll be back to finish off the Mescal Ridge & Big Ridge trails.
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Mescal Ridge Trail #186Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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The Steelers play Monday night this week, so I had all day Sunday to take a ride up north and do a hike. My co-worker Gordie who did the Keet Seel hike with me had time to tag along since he's a Chiefs fan and they're the team the Steelers are playing on MNF, so he also had all day Sunday to hike.

We arrived at the Bear Flat TH at about 7:35am. The entire area was covered in a combination of frost and a very light dusting of snow. Finding the trail up the hill was a little bit tricky at first but following the HAZ track, we found it soon enough. the steepest part of this hike is the initial climb out of the valley up to the ridge.

At the first trail junction, we took the Mescal Ridge Trail to its terminus at the Horse Prairie Tank. The frost had already started to melt on our way out and was almost all gone on our way back. The early morning along this trail also provided some nice views of the snow dusted Mogollon Rim.

On our way back we had lunch by the trail junction, and then took the Bear Flat Trail out one mile short of the next trail junction. the Bear Flat Trail is much nicer than the Mescal Ridge Trail. It's less rocky, flatter, and overall the views are nicer. we saw a few cows hanging out on that trail, which caused some delays for us while waiting for them to get off the trail. On our way back, we saw a pretty big bull just before the trail junction. Fortunately, it got up and moved on without any real persuasion necessary.

Looks like some very nice opportunities for some nice overnight backpacks in the Hellsgate Wilderness, as the trails are very long and dead end in the middle of nowhere. Looking forward to what dayhikes I can make out of these for the next few years.
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