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May 23 2019
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 Tucson, Arizona
Bridal Veil Salado Canyon Loop, NM 
Bridal Veil Salado Canyon Loop, NM
 
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Hiking10.80 Miles 1,331 AEG
Hiking10.80 Miles   4 Hrs   31 Mns   2.95 mph
1,331 ft AEG      51 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 
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On the second day in the Cloudcroft area I headed down the mountain about 10 miles to a place called High Rolls where there is another system of trails that follow along the 1900's train route. There are three trails, The Grand View Trail T130 that is the uppermost trail, Bridal Veil Trail T129 and the lower Salado Trail T128. Fresnal Canyon Road can take you too any one of these three trails but I started at the upper most end and ended on the lower most and returned the same way for a total of 10.8 miles.

The Grand View Trail is probably named such because of the grand views of the mountains to the west and White Sands in the Valley below. In spite of the wind I still had a fairly good view to the west, just a bit dusty. The trail is wide since it follows the track bed and I found myself drifting from one side to the other when ever the mood moved me. I kind of laughed out loud thinking once again of the Seinfeld episode where Elaine and Kramer didn't like the narrow lanes on a road so Kramer painted over the stripes and made one super wide lane allowing them to drift from one side to the other. It always amazes me what drifts through my head while hiking alone.

The Bridal Veil Falls Trail is the middle of the three trails and while there are no views it is a bit more interesting with a couple of old trestles in various states of decay. This is also the trail where the train makes a 180 degree turn while crossing Salado Creek. There are informative signs along the way. The Bridal Veil Trail ends at Bridal Veil Falls, There was a little water flowing over the falls when I was there. Bridal Veil Falls area is kind of an oasis and was a train stop.

The Salado Canyon trail starts at Bridal Veil Falls and continues down stream coming eventually to the Salado Canyon Trestle. This is a restored trestle. The trail continues on for another .75 miles past the trestle where it enters Fresnal Canyon. I only followed it .5 miles past the trestle, the track bed is a bit overgrown and I opted to turn around (I still had to drive to the Chiricahua Mountains today). The GPS route for this round trip hike is rather interesting, when graphed the trail is "V" shaped. Straight lines on either side with a constant slope of 170ft/mile. As you know from hiking this is an easy slope and nowhere near the 1000ft/mile of some trails. The only other place I have seen such a consistent slope on a trail is along the Arizona Trail near Gardner Canyon where it follows a water canal.
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Jul 31 2018
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 Tucson, AZ
Bridal Veil Falls Trail T129Southeast, NM
Southeast, NM
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Hiking4.50 Miles 583 AEG
Hiking4.50 Miles
583 ft AEG      8 Mns Break
 
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I hiked a short portion of this in 2015 and today I finished the segment from the upper trailhead down to the waterfall. You can also get to the waterfall from below it on another portion of trail, which is shorter. I will do that on a future visit to the area. It was a very warm and humid day, and most of the hike is exposed, so this became somewhat uncomfortable on the uphill return to the vehicle (did it midday too). When I started, another vehicle pulled up with Texas plates (pretty common around here) and an elderly couple were gearing up to do the hike. I chatted with them briefly while getting started, but figured I wouldn't see them again on the trail.

The hike follows the old rail bed most of the way, which had quite a few trestles over bigger cuts along the way (now long gone). In those spots trail work arounds exist, some a bit steep. (In general the trail gradient is mellow, since it is on an old train route). I enjoyed looking for old railroad artifacts, and especially liked the old wooden culverts. Just before I reached the waterfall, an old abandoned ranch/homestead was encountered. The topo map shows there was a road down to it from the main Fresnel Canyon Road 162C at one time.

The waterfall is about 40 feet high and carries water down an unnamed canyon that empties into the larger Salado Canyon at this point, with perennial flow continuing downstream probably the majority of distance to where Salado empties into Fresnal Creek. Fresnal Creek then continues down to the village of La Luz (a beautiful place), where the City of Alamogordo has some of its water intakes. The source of this fairly impressive flow is strong springs up in the High Rolls area, near the start point of this hike. The first green, grassy, well watered spot you encounter early into the hike is the same flow that later reaches the waterfall. It represents a pleasant change from the otherwise dry environment.

There were two other hikers at the waterfall when I arrived; they come up from the easier lower approach. After a short break, I started back the way I came. I had gone about .75 mile, and left the trail to see if I could get a photo of a silted up old rock dam I noted on my way in. This is at about the point where the rail line crossed Salado Creek to climb up toward High Rolls. It is then that I heard voices above. Lo and behold, it was the elderly couple slowly making their way down the trail. I yelled up at them to say hi, and they asked me how much further to the falls. I told them they had nearly a mile to go. (I was actually surprised to see them, as the man was moving quite slowly when I encountered them at the start of the hike) They briefly dropped out of view, then I saw them again starting to head back. They decided to call it a day, which was good considering the exposure and warm humid conditions. I regained the trail and caught up with them as they were taking a break under a large juniper tree. Had a nice visit, and they informed me they were from the Dallas area and not used to hiking at this elevation. We talked about camping, etc. and found out they were tent campers like me (not the RV crowd). He is 87 years old and his wife 83 and they still camp. How about that! :D The man said the only concession they have made in recent times is to switch to sleeping on a cot, because it was becoming too difficult getting the old bones up and down off a surface mat. I can relate! They said they were fine and had plenty of water, so I headed back up the slog to the truck.

I was pretty well bushed by the time I got back to the vehicle, but I was still concerned for the couple trying to make their way back. My plan was to drive on down the main road to La Luz, before heading back up to Cloudcroft on US 82 and on to my camp site. My gut feeling was that I needed to be sure those folks got out OK. I had the option to drive back up the short distance to High Rolls and tell someone to come down and check on them, before proceeding down the mountain. I decided to wait awhile at the trailhead to see if I could spot them coming back up. I had moved my truck and parked next to their vehicle for a better view. After about half an hour they came into view, and paused at that spot for about 15 minutes before slowly moving up the trail again. At that point I decided to head back down the trail to check on them.

They weren't too far from finishing when I encountered them again. They were calm and knew what they were doing, just pacing themselves, and taking another break. I told them I just wanted to make sure all was well. They thanked me for my concern and assured me all was fine. The woman said, "I am going to tell folks back home that we had a trail angel looking out for us on this hike." That made me happy and gave me enough peace of mind to continue on with my plans. It was an interesting little hike. :)
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Jan 03 2016
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 Cloudcroft, NM
Grand View Trail #130Southeast, NM
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Hiking4.50 Miles 450 AEG
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kicking off the new training day...beginner hike. Mary along for the jogging... mike and brenda enjoying the hike. This may turn into an impressive group activity.

...1h 7 min... down from the 1 hr 13 min of last effort. Snow on the trail...
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Dec 20 2015
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Grand View Trail #130Southeast, NM
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Run/Jog4.30 Miles 550 AEG
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Mary and I slogging in the mud and mushy snow. Too warm... easier if the ground were frozen.
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Dec 06 2015
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getting back to the weekly run/walk... great loop
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Jul 04 2015
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 Tucson, AZ
Salado Canyon Trail #128, NM 
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I really like both La Luz and Tularosa a bit further north. Beautiful oasis towns with lots of water thanks to the nearby Sacramento mountains, featuring acequias everywhere, and monster trees. :) When I am over in the Alamogordo area I always make my way up the mountain to the wonderful little town of Cloudcroft (about 9000 feet), but usually I go the standard way up highway 82. About 10 years ago, I decided to take the road out of La Luz to try and follow the route of the old Cloud Climbing Railroad. Shortly out of La Luz, turn right on the Fresnal Canyon Road, which more or less follows the railroad route up to the village of High Rolls. The Rails to Trails program has been adding to the trail system here over the years. It is now fairly complete all the way from La Luz to Cloudcroft. The last time I was here, the restoration of the trestle was just beginning, and the trail signs, etc. were not in place. It was nice to see the finished product! :D
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After checking out the Salado Trestle I continued up the road to High Rolls. Before reaching the village, there were trailhead signs at a point where the old rail line crossed the road. These were for the Grandview and Bridal Veil Falls portions. I saw another car with Arizona plates pull up and some hikers head out on the Bridal Veil section, so I thought, "Why not." It was 2 miles to the falls and I didn't have time for that today, as I wanted to check out some more new roads, etc. before heading back down the mountain for fireworks at the Space Museum, so I just went the short distance to the first stream crossing. (I will actually hike more of this trail on a future visit when I have more time). Just really pretty up in this area! :)
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May 02 2012
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reviewed the status of the Rails to Trails on the lower portion: the Fresnal Canyon loop
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Jan 04 2012
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logged in some trails on the way up to the first Wednesday volunteer day at the Senior Center in Cloudcroft... Unchip really excited to discover Bridal Veil falls over in Fresnal Canyon!

Interesting to note: Salado Canyon: the Rails to Trails Association has completed the trail work up canyon to Bridal Veil Falls, and the work is in play to continue the route on up canyon to connect with Grandview. In addition, the Fresnal Canyon road has been paved all the way up to High Rolls! This will likely mean more traffic on the trails, but it also means bike riders traversing up or down the mountain from Cloudcroft, have a great bypass route, sans cars for the most part, and major time scenic! It cuts off over half of the hiway miles, bringing you into hiway 82 around mile post 8.
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