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Overland Road Historic Trail - 5 members in 9 triplogs have rated this an average 2.6 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Aug 08 2017
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 Phoenix, AZ
Bear Springs via Overland Rd Historic Trail, AZ 
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It was the third day of an eight day camping trip to the rim area west of the Sycamore Canyon Wilderness. On this day I decided to go check out Bear Canyon starting at Bear Springs. I drove from my camp at the soon-to-be-location of the Spring 2017 HAZFest on FR110 then south on State Route 73 where I exited on FR175 to take the Bear Springs Rd (FR180) to the spring. FR180 had a road closed sign which I confirmed by checking the S Kaibab MVUM so parked the car and started hiking the 1.7 miles to Bear Springs. There were large rock cairns spaced at intervals along the road which only mildly puzzled me until I noticed on my GPS map that the road was following the course of the old Overland Road Historic Trail. The trail diverged from the road before it got to Bear Springs but I decided to explore the divergent section of the trail on my way back from exploring Bear Canyon. The linked Overland Road Historic Trail description has a short history of that road which once connected the Flagstaff area with Prescott.

Bear Spring had a small flow of water connecting a number of pools upstream from where the road crosses the creek. Downstream from the road the canyon becomes deeper with cliff walls on each side. I chose to hike along the canyon rim rather than attempt to follow the canyon bottom. That worked out well because there were good views down in to the canyon and did not require down climbing water falls. The bottom of the canyon had small pools of water scattered along its length. I followed the canyon for about a half mile before turning back.

On the way back I headed off road to find the Overland Rd trail where the map showed it crossing an un-named side canyon. The map had the crossing location misplaced by about 500 yds and it took some wandering around to find it. But once I found one of the large rock cairns marking its location it was easy to follow the closely spaced cairns marking the trail. I followed the trail of cairns until it converged with the trail on the map and then turned around to follow it back to my car. Either the old road bed has disappeared in this area or the string of cairns do not accurately follow its path. I expected to see cuts in the hillside where the old road had descended into the canyon and back up the other side but could not find a trace. It was a pleasant but warm hike back to my car while I pondered what it must have been like to drive a freight wagon with a team of horses over the Overland Rd back in the late 1860s.
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Mar 11 2017
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Paradise Forks, AZ 
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arizona_waterTriplogs 118
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Spring runoff goes a long way in northern AZ...before it hits those alluvial basins in central AZ ;)
I was really happy to see this area flowing for the first time. We spent some time relaxing and listening to the sound of the water. There was only one other group the whole time we were here, on a Saturday!

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Sycamore Canyon Rim LoopFlagstaff, AZ
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Claire and I headed up to Flagstaff for a night and started with the Sycamore Rim Loop hike. We parked on the northeast side of the loop and started with climb up KA Hill. It was a warm and sunny day as we made the climb. After we topped out it was smooth sailing as we descended towards Pomeroy Tanks which proved to be a really cool area with several pools of water. We continued on and reached the start of the canyon which is really cool. We took a variety of pics and took a break as we hiked along the rim. The views are nice and it’s very easy hiking. We eventually turned away from the canyon and headed north and made our return to the jeep at our trailhead. This was a really nice hike and we were off to a good start. Afterward we headed over to Williams for beers and lunch.
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Sycamore Canyon Rim LoopFlagstaff, AZ
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Cool area. ~I had been here before to the area known in the climbing community as Paradise Forks. This is a circumference hike with good views of the climbing area. Along the hike we stopped to watched some trad climbers in Sycamore Canyon( Paradise Forks) below us from the trail.

This is a fun loop. Great views that range from pine forest, canyon walls, pools of water and other such nature that one finds in Northern Arizona.
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 Tempe, AZ
Sycamore Canyon Rim LoopFlagstaff, AZ
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Sunday we took a lazy start to the day before heading over to the east trailhead for the Sycamore Rim Loop trail.

We started by climbing KA hill, and promptly lost the trail on the north/west descent due to an incredible amount of elk use. I've never seen so much destruction. Not even from cattle. The poo was fresh and pungent, and the use trails were everywhere. This had to be the result of one of those huge elk herds that roam the prairies up here.

The tanks in Isham Spring canyon were a nice surprise as was the Pomeroy Tanks area and the impressive (though dry) Sycamore Falls. That would be a sight to see running, though I imagine it is quite rare.

The miles across the rim were a bit warm as the 80% chance of rain was nowhere near close to happening. It was 80% sunny all day long. Which was nice in a way, but we were prepared to be hiking in the rain that ended up hitting Phoenix 12 hours later. It's the first time I've had rain pants in my pack on a simple dayhike as nice and warm as this one!

The hike got a little tedious and I was ready to be done when the ruins of the old sawmill site, railroad, and Overland Trail near the end offered a little bit of interest to get me back to the truck.

This is a nice trail with lots of trailhead options. It makes it a versatile option for people of any hiking ability or skill level.

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Didn't see the actual source of the spring. The entire valley is full of water.

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No real flow, but huge, deep, clear pools exist here. The small fish indicate this is a perennial source of water.

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Didn't see the source of the spring. The entire valley is full of water.

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Tons of water here. This is a perennial source of water.
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May 18 2014
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Overland Road Historic TrailFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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Hiking2.59 Miles 500 AEG
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Note: Miles and AEG don't agree with my GPS route due to combining two hikes. Okay, I thought I was on the Sycamore Rim Trail. I don't find that here on the HAZ list. I find Overland Road Historic Trail and Sycamore Canyon Rim Loop. Take your pick. We went to Sycamore Falls. There's no water in them, duh. But they would be pretty spectacular if there was water. The canyon is spectacular anyway. We also stopped at another trailhead and hiked, so I am going to add in the miles for that, but I forgot to save it in my GPS. We were looking for the trailhead to do a short walk to the falls, so we went back and drove down and found the correct trailhead.

Main thing is that I was wearing my new boots. After hiking a couple miles or so total my feet were fine in these boots. I will have to now do a 4 mile hike to see what happens. Maybe I can be a hiker again after all. I'll post photos later. I have time for a hike before I go to Grand Canyon today for my job. Yeah, life is tough.
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Overland Road Historic TrailFlagstaff, AZ
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Bear Spring Segment

Explored a short segment of the Overland Road during my visit to Bear Canyon. Saw some nice evidence of early Arizona history. I'm surprised at how much I found in a short amount of time. The area near Bear Spring must have been a key point along the route. Pretty cool!

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Bear Canyon - Kaibab NFFlagstaff, AZ
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Friday was my hike day while on our yearly Unit 8 elk hunt campout. It seems like someone always gets drawn within our group every year so the trip is almost guaranteed. I never truly had high expectations for this canyon. I've just always had a feeling that something good was down in there. Topo and Google Earth research was inconclusive, however I still had to satisfy my curiosity. The hike started out average at best. I was pleased to find that canyon flow from Bear Spring was very good with numerous large pools. I rounded a corner about a 1/2 mile down from the trailhead and viewed the canyon immediately drop into a deep gorge with multiple drops. WOW!! I never imagined this was coming. I get so exited when I find an obscure hidden gem that few have experienced. Exploring has its perks.

The first waterfall, although steep and nasty had a manageable down climb route. The second waterfall dropped into a deep beautiful grotto with sheer cliffs and all sides. The lower grotto was stuffed with large oak trees. This setting would be sooo nice in the summer! Getting down this big waterfall was not an option without rope. There were zero safe bypass routes. I wanted down there so bad that I didn't care if it took me the rest of the day to find a way in. I backtracked to the first waterfall and scrambled up to the canyon rim. I began to look for a way in from above. The options were limited, however I spotted a manageable way down that was within my comfort zone. I noticed some skid marks in the ground from deer. If they can make down, so can I... Before reaching the canyon bottom, there was a lower bench with a nasty cliff that needed to be dealt with. The deer found a steep narrow notch between two cliff faces lined with spindly oak and mud that worked just fine. I was in!! I hiked and scrambled no more than about 200 yards up canyon and arrived at my destination. I just love this stuff! The setting was so special and the waterfall was a beautiful combination of running water and ice sickles. I had so much fun with the upper gorge that I didn't even bother to finish my hike into the lower canyon. My day was complete.

Bear Canyon likely has more to see. That will be saved for another day. I'm personally really looking forward to a summer revisit. Adding thick summer foliage should be irresistible. Not having to slip and slide down icy boulders and rock faces will be a welcome bonus also. Arizona has so much to offer. I love this state!



Warning: Do not drive to this trailhead after heavy rain or snowmelt without four-wheel drive! You might not make it out. I barely did...

Note: Following the primary canyon route is class 3, however with some ambition, most obstacles can be managed without rope and specialty equipment .
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Overland Road Historic TrailFlagstaff, AZ
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Randal_SchulhauserTriplogs 1,009
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Overland Road Historic Trail via Garland Prairie

When I was researching the hike description for the Beale Wagon Road Historic Trail, the Kaibab National Forest also included some material related to the Overland Road Historic Trail. Interesting I thought at the time, got to put it on the "TO DO" list for some day.

Well "SOME DAY" came today after a visit to Government Prairie. From the I-40, we took the Garland Prairie Road (exit#167) near Williams and headed southeast along FR141 until we reached FR109. Continuing south on FR109, and just past the intersection with FR139, we came to a crossing for the Overland Road Historic Trail as denoted by the distinctive pack mule signs (Beale Wagon Road has distinctive camel signs marking the trail).

We had time for a short reconnaissance mission before the rains came. Heading back to FR141, we soon came to the intersection with FR13 and Dow Spring. Dow Spring was a regular way station for travelers on route to the gold fields near Prescott. At one point this settlement boasted its own post office. Cabin ruins and an old bridge give testament to former glory. My map indicated the remains of a sawmill and a narrow gauge railroad, both active in the 1920's nearby. We failed to locate these remains. More rain, so we continued the loop along FR141 back to the Garland Prairie Road (exit#178) interchange with the I-40 near Parks.

Just a little taste of this historic trail - I'm sure we'll be back soon for more exploration...
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