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Casner Cabin Draw - 4 members in 5 triplogs have rated this an average 3 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Aug 27 2022
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62 male
 Joined Dec 02 2014
 Mesa, AZ
Casner Cabin DrawSedona, AZ
Sedona, AZ
Canyoneering avatar Aug 27 2022
adillingTriplogs 402
Canyoneering4.00 Miles 650 AEG
Canyoneering4.00 Miles
650 ft AEG
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We set off to do a recon mission of this canyon. Our goal was to drive down FS 231 and then take FS 231J as far as we could and then hike into Casner Cabin Draw. The plan was to hike down the draw to the canyoneering section and go as far as we could before finding a way back out to the plateau above.

Right off, we realized the area going down to the canyon is extremely overgrown and steep. We were slow movers hiking down. We both felt, "well, once we are in the canyon and hiking in and along the draw, things would pick up". Unfortunately, the choked out draw and thick vegetation got even worse. We still plodded along with out original plan. The canyon became very scenic with towering cliffs and a nice little creek (when we could see it under all of the fallen logs, flood debris and over-grown thickets).

We started looking at the dark clouds gathering above and began to hear thunder and the occastional drop of rain. Looking at the topo map of the area, there seemed to be very few exits the further we went in. We would almost have to traverse the enter canyon and meet up with the West Fork confluence to get a clear path out. That would mean canyoneering and rappeling we were not prepared for. So, we made the decision to call it a day and picked the best path up and out.

The slope was steep and completely overgrown with thorny and slippery bits, including large patches of poison ivy we had to avoid. As we made it to the top, the rain started. We found a nice rocky out-crop and had a little snack. The rain did not last long and we finished up our ascent and made it back to the car.

We did some additional recon from an overview above the Casner Cabin Draw/West Fork confluence and decided we would try hiking in from the West Fork along 231 next time. The area looks stunning. So, another day.

Afterwards we made it to Instagram Point and took our selfies and TikTok videos to increase our bonavides with all the beaufitul people. (Just kidding, we just took pictures)

A long day in a great area. I have not done a bushwhack this wild in a long time. Our recon efforts did not give us much, it was a good day nonetheless.
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Oct 13 2014
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38 female
 Joined Oct 13 2014
 tempe, az
Casner Cabin DrawSedona, AZ
Sedona, AZ
Canyoneering avatar Oct 13 2014
kmahaneyTriplogs 1
Canyoneering10.50 Miles 1,100 AEG
Canyoneering10.50 Miles
1,100 ft AEG50 LBS Pack
Basic Canyoneering - Scrambling; easy climbing/downclimbing; frequent hand use; rope recommended; easy exit
B - Up to light current; wading/swimming; possible wet/dry suit
III - Normally requires most of a day
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This canyon had some exciting moments, it was beautiful in the fall, you never see colors like that in the valley. I think we spent the majority of our trip rock hopping with wet slippery shoes, so I wish the narrows had lasted a bit longer. The area was burned in 2012 and you can still see and feel the effects. There was quite a bit of charred debri in the canyon, log jams were fragile and looked crispy, charred rocks were cracking, one of the pools we swam through was full of wood chips. It was like swimming through a flooded playground. I think the guide book said we would be swimming through 3 pools, I counted 5 actual can't touch the bottom pools, there are other ones that went up to our torso, or could be avoided all together. We replaced the anchor with a wrap 2 pull 1, and used about 10 ft of webbing around a choke stone NBD.
*** edit: I should also add that because of all the added obstructions due to the semi-recent fire, this trip took us about 9 hours, the book said 5-8 ***

Things we used:
- GPS (plot your way points before you leave)
- helmet
- grommetted backpack
- large dry bag
- wet suits
- harness
- repelling device of choice
- PA (but this rappel wasn't awkward to get on so you didn't really need one.)
- enough water for a day hike.
- snacks for a day
- change of undergarments, or swim suit
- knife
- lighter
- a good driver, who doesn't mind taking their car on maintained dirt roads, with small obstacles.
*bug spray would be helpful but we forgot it (there were swarms of small mosquitoes)
*We brought a headlamp too just in case, but found we didn't need it
*also a water proof first aid kit was nice to have

Pro tip: You don't have to hike along the 231 the whole time. If you have your GPS, you can save yourself some time and walk from the road across a field to where your car is parked, instead of walking all the way around save you about 30 minutes, or just stick out your thumb and hitch a ride- seems like a popular road for hunters in the fall.
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The trees were just changing colors, it was so beautiful to watch the leaves fall like confetti. They made things a bit more slippery to walk on, but the scenery was more than I could have hoped for. Most guide books recommend doing this canyon in the summer because there is a lot of water to swim through. I would say bring a 3mm wet suit and do this in the fall.
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 Joined Nov 18 2005
 Phoenix, AZ
Casner Cabin DrawSedona, AZ
Sedona, AZ
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nonotTriplogs 514
Canyoneering10.50 Miles 1,100 AEG
Canyoneering10.50 Miles   6 Hrs      1.75 mph
1,100 ft AEG
Basic Canyoneering - Scrambling; easy climbing/downclimbing; frequent hand use; rope recommended; easy exit
B - Up to light current; wading/swimming; possible wet/dry suit
II - Normally requires a half day
 
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Didn't use the rope or tech gear, probably should've.
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Oct 07 2010
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60 male
 Joined Nov 15 2005
 Jackson, CA
Casner Cabin DrawSedona, AZ
Sedona, AZ
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toddakTriplogs 577
Canyoneering9.50 Miles 670 AEG
Canyoneering9.50 Miles   5 Hrs      1.90 mph
670 ft AEG
Basic Canyoneering - Scrambling; easy climbing/downclimbing; frequent hand use; rope recommended; easy exit
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Nice (and probably unusual) to have flowing water the full length of this fine little canyon.
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Aug 21 2010
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46 male
 Joined Mar 28 2005
 Gilbert, AZ
Casner Cabin DrawSedona, AZ
Sedona, AZ
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VapormanTriplogs 931
Canyoneering8.00 Miles 800 AEG
Canyoneering8.00 Miles   4 Hrs   15 Mns   1.88 mph
800 ft AEG
Intermediate Canyoneering - Difficult or dangerous; Tech Climb; rope reqd; descent anchor; exit technical;
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This isn't a very technical or highly rated canyon but I certainly enjoyed it and don't need it to be terribly technical to have a good time. :D My buddy and I both had stuff keeping us in the valley that Saturday morning, but we meet up around noon and drove north with a mission to hammer out a few canyons off of Woody Mt Road, or at least I did and he tagged along. :lol: So we did hit this canyon until like 3ish but quickly geared up and quickly walked along the forrest road, past the cow tank, thru the open meadow, and began the long rock hop down canyon that got more & more difficult as we trekked down canyon. Occasionally there was a side trail to hop on, but for the most part it was right down the dry creek bed with loads of rocks, boulders, bushes, cold pools, and down trees to navigate around. :sweat: We hit that confluence with the north fork and the canyon got much more interesting afterwards with slickrock sections and mandatory swimmers. :D It was a pretty warm & humid day so we left the wetsuits in the truck and were sweating profusely on the hike in but the cold pools quickly cooled us off and almost had us wishing we had the wetsuits but thankfully they were short & sweet. I believe we hit two swimmers & a wader before hitting the canyons only 15ft rappel (the anchor is back a bit so bring about 80ft of rope or redo the anchor) that drops you down into two more swimmers, some rock hopping and then two more cold swimmers before finally reaching the confluence with upper West Fork canyon. :GB: Upstream from the confluence you hit a cool narrows with a wader but after that it's back to rock hopping & downed tree bypassing. After a bit you hit a confluence and make sure to go right unless you want to take the LONG way back to FR231. ;) The creek hiking up this pleasant canyon gets slowly easier with an occasional trail popping up here & there with the bridge for 231 not too far off. It was well into dusk by the time we hit the road and started cruising our way north towards the truck and we got almost a mile before some nice bow hunters gave us a lift back to Casner Cabin Draw. Thanks dudes! :y:

Hmm, so the photos didn't turn out as good as my usual sets due to low light, tough keeping water off of the lens when there's a half dozen swimmers, and the canyon was tight & narrow most of the way... But hopefully these photos give ya an idea of what to expect if you retrace this loop. ;)
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