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Oct 15 2007
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68 male
 Joined Sep 03 2002
 Phoenix, AZ
Havasu Canyon TrailNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Backpack avatar Oct 15 2007
hegstromTriplogs 6
Backpack21.00 Miles 2,496 AEG
Backpack21.00 Miles4 Days         
2,496 ft AEG
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Awesome experience!

Mid October, wonderful weather the entire trip, cool evenings, warm afternoons, zero threat of rain, calm to gentle breezes. The stream water was about 64 degrees, too cool for 'us' to go swimming ... others did.

Sun - Spent the night before the hike at Grand Caverns Inn ... closest lodging (64 miles) to the Hill Top.

Mon - Arose at 5:45am, ate at the Caverns Restaurant, drove to the trail head. Left the trail head at 9am ... didn't get to the campground until 5pm. Yes, that was eight hours ... we are not as young as we used to be and we hiked our packs in, didn't use the horse/mule trains ... but we got there before dark :-)

Tue - In the morning we went down and experienced the 'chutes and ladders' (the real life kids game) of Mooney Falls ... completely exhilarating. In the afternoon we went up to the Havasu Falls, sat in the cool waters (64 degrees) ... very refreshing for the legs and feet.

Wed - Went back down to the 'chutes and ladders' of Mooney Falls went downstream to just past the first stream crossing. Turned around and thoroughly explored the entire area back up to Mooney Falls. Found the top and bottom of the little falls of the beautiful little creek that comes in from the side canyon.

Thu - Arose at 5:45am, ate, completed packing up the camp site and headed up corrals at the head of the campground. Left our backpacks for the horse/mule train to take out (we learned from our trip in). We left the campground at 7:50am and reached the Hill Top at 2:20.

Eight hours to get in with our packs ... six and half hours to get out with just our day packs. We're not speedy, but we enjoyed the entire trip.

For those of you that have never been there .. as we hadn't ... here is some basic information ...


Campsites. There are picnic tables to basically designate each campsite. Some of the tables are very nice and apparently fairly new metal tables, some are very older wooden tables. The ground is quite clear, easy to stake a tent. Minimal rocks provide a smooth sleeping surface. I've noticed many people mentioning that they had 'secluded' camp sites near the stream, or away from the stream, we were very happy to have a site right near Fern Spring on the main trail ... we very much enjoyed speaking with the people walking by.

Food storage. At the GC NoRim to SoRim we found old ammo boxes to store our food. Here it is apparently not needed due to the local roaming dogs must keep away the wild animals. However, we hung our food from a tree branch just to be safe. We did see several of the dogs (and some squirrels) going through camp sites when the humans where gone and scavenging for food.

Water. We brought a filter and pills to take care of the water, however we never used them. The water at Fern Spring appeared to be safe. It was for us, and for everybody we asked. No problems with taste either. The water was just running our of a pipe sticking out of the rock cliff face ... you just fill up your water bottles or water bladders from from the pipe. Fern Spring is very near the beginning of the campground. I didn't notice any other places in the campground to get 'drinking water' ... doesn't mean there wasn't ... I just didn't notice any others.

Port-a-Johns. They had 4 port-a-johns at the beginning of the campground and and the downstream end of the campground they had 4 more. Also at the beginning they had a building that appeared to be out of service that was suppose to be a composting toilet house ... but it was out of service. I didn't find the port-a-johns to be that bad, but my wife did, but even she didn't find them that bad. Most of the smell at the beginning of the campgrounds probably came from corrals rather than from the port-a-johns. My recommendation would be that the tribe clean/replace the port-a-johns more often.

Trash. We found far me trash on the trail in that should be tolerated by the tribe, but from my perspective it appeared to be water and Gatorade bottles, which I believe were left by the visitors. Should the tribe be more proactive in keeping it clean? Simple answer ... Yes. Unfortunate that we (the visitors) leave a mess, and unfortunate that the tribe doesn't make the effort to keep it cleaner.

Mooney Falls' Chutes and Ladders. Getting into Mooney Falls (at least for my wife and I) was very heart and lung acceleratingly ... I'm sure due to the adrenaline rush. We did it twice, but really got our hearts and lungs going each time. We spoke with the REI guide at one point and I expressed that I wouldn't want his job when it came to getting clients up and down at Mooney. The REI guide's eyes basically lit up and he smiled with glee and rubbed his hands and stated, 'that's when the fun starts'. He said that he gets to 'spider man' up or down the chutes and ladders and 'leapfrog' over people to get to the person in trouble ... 'give them a hug' and tell them that it is 'ok' and they will make it. He stated that he has had grown men cry ... I can believe it ... very thrilling and exciting. My wife is only 5' 1" and some of those 'steps' of the ladder thoroughly go to the extreme limit of her physical ability to reach. But we did do it twice ... intentionally :-)

Trail Dogs. Yes, there are numerous 'trail' dogs. At both the trail head and in the camp site. Don't know the policy, nor the norm regarding feeding them ... we never fed them. All of them, on an individual basis, seemed quite nice ... we never petted any of them. We never felt threatened by them either, we basically just ignored them.

Horse/Mule Train. We packed in our backpacks ... and had the pack animals take them out. Next time we'll have them pack them IN and out. The advantage of using the horses to haul your gear in/out rather than the helicopter is that the horse trains go all the way to the head of the campground. If you choose to use the helicopter you have to pack it the distance (2 to 2.5 miles) from the village to the campground and back yourself, the trek past Havasu Falls (elevation change) would probably be the biggest reason to just leave it to the pack animals. I saw a few people packing there stuff out, but the MAJORity of the people leave it to the pack animals.

Swimming. We did experience a large group skinny dipping at Havasu Falls. Personal opinion ... I found that to be very disrespectful at a very easily accessible location ... disrespectful to our hosts and other visitors ... knock yourself out at more secluded locations.
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Jan 17 2004
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68 male
 Joined Sep 03 2002
 Phoenix, AZ
Hidden Valley from Buena VistaPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 17 2004
hegstromTriplogs 6
Hiking4.60 Miles 850 AEG
Hiking4.60 Miles   2 Hrs   15 Mns   2.04 mph
850 ft AEG
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OK, Note to Self: 'Don't hike this trail when the City of Phoenix is running their annual National Trail Trek'. They had nearly 300 people on the trail. It was like the Black Canyon freeway at rush hour. We ran into'em between the Buena Vista parking lot and Fat Man's pass.

Then we got to Hidden Valley and started running into the groups of kids heading to Fat Man's pass. By the time we had looped back around to Fat Man's pass and decided to take our mid-hike break Fat Man's pass looked like a school yard at recess.

We've hiked this trail many times, because we live in South Phoenix, South Mountain is our backyard. This is a great introductory hike whenever we have someone we want to introduce to hiking, or when we only have time for a quick hike.

But this weekend was rediculous ... still a great hike :)
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Jul 26 2003
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68 male
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 Phoenix, AZ
Woodchute Trail #102Prescott, AZ
Prescott, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 26 2003
hegstromTriplogs 6
Hiking8.30 Miles 741 AEG
Hiking8.30 Miles1 Day         
741 ft AEG
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We were looking for another 'cool' location for an Arizona summer time hike. I think this works out very well, but try to get there early to beat the afternoon heat. It started out in the mid 70s and probably ended up in the low 90s. Easy to find and very few people on the trail. We had quite a group with us this time, 9 hikers total, so I guess we were the 'lot of people on the trail'.

We took a long break at the ravine just before Woodchute Tank. Very pleasant spot to break and it had the largest butterflies, not many, but enough to catch your attention.

As has been mentioned the half mile ascent of Woodchute at the end of the trail is quite the 'huffer'. We had several people that seemed to breeze right up, but some of us took several quick breaks to get the heart rate back to normal. The air up there seems to be missing some ... I'm guessing oxygen.

I didn't notice a fork in the trail so can't tell you which way we went once we were on top. However, we did make it all the way across to where the trail virutally goes right through the middle of a large bush with a gate in the middle. Just after that gate there was another gate to the left that I assumed was the trail heading down the backside. We didn't go through that gate but headed down to the right a short distance for an expansive and spectacular view of the north country.

My spouse and I both thought that this felt longer than 8 miles. Maybe it was the temperature, lack of oxygen and 'huffer' ascent to Woodchute.
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Jun 28 2003
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68 male
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 Phoenix, AZ
Bell Trail to the Crack - Wet Beaver CreekCamp Verde, AZ
Camp Verde, AZ
Hiking avatar Jun 28 2003
hegstromTriplogs 6
Hiking6.00 Miles 280 AEG
Hiking6.00 Miles   3 Hrs   30 Mns   1.71 mph
280 ft AEG
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OK, not the best idea in the world to take this hike in July. It started out at 95 degrees at 9am, and by the time we hiked out it was 102 degrees. Still, lots of people on the trail and a lot at the swimming hole. The first 2 miles on the Jeep Trail are a little boring. We had hiked this trail some 4-5 years ago and the little irrigation canal was running which really was missed this trip because it appears not to be in working order any more. None the less, this was a very easy hike to the swimming hole, beyond I couldn't tell you. But the swimming hole is wonderful. We went down to the creek just before the swimming hole and really had our own little part of the desert oasis to ourselves. The water was very cool and refreshing as well as the sounds of the creek. Nice hike, even in the summer, probably would only do this again when it is 'in season' thou :D
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Nov 09 2002
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68 male
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 Phoenix, AZ
Wind Cave Trail #281Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 09 2002
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Hiking3.20 Miles 800 AEG
Hiking3.20 Miles   2 Hrs   30 Mns   1.28 mph
800 ft AEG
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Due to the potential for inclement weather, we detoured from our intended hike of Woodchute Trail :cry: . We haven't been there yet so we don't know what we missed. However, as a last minute fill-in hike, Wind Cove worked very nicely. Convenient to get too, way too convenient, way too many people for my liking. Fortunately we got to the 'top' just as a large group of cub scouts or something was leaving.

The chipmuncks at the cove were more than friendly/hungry. They appeared to be willing to jump in your pocket to look for food if you weren't quick enough to toss it out. There must have been at least a dozen or more in the immediate vacinity.

There were a few bees, nobody was bothered by them.

Easy, enjoyable hike :) . 70 degrees. Partly cloudy. 1 hour up, 30 minutes at the top, 50 minutes down. Great views as mentioned, we did see the Fountain Hills fountain as well.
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Sep 21 2002
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 Phoenix, AZ
Horton Creek Trail #285Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Sep 21 2002
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Hiking8.00 Miles 1,183 AEG
Hiking8.00 Miles   4 Hrs      2.00 mph
1,183 ft AEG
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Sat, Sep 21 2002 - This was a very, very enjoyable hike. 80 degrees when we started, 95 degrees when we returned to the trail head, definitely above average. My wife and I spent 2.5 hours hiking up with several stops to rest and enjoy the scenery, probably half to three quarters of an hour exploring the spring, and then 1.5 hour to hike down.

It was a little more difficult (going up) than we had expected. A hiking book had listed it as easy, this web site listed it at 2.5 difficulty (we agree with the 2.5, probably easy for regular/younger/fitter hikers). The last quarter mile to the top was about where we had had enough (we're just occasional hikers). The realization that we had to be almost to the top kept us going.

And eventually seeing the Highline sign post kept us going the last 20 yards. We didn't spot the half dozen or so tents across the gully because we were so focused on that sign post at that time (we spotted the tents on the way back down ... and laughed because we had completely missed them on the way up). Once you get to that sign post make a right and in just 20 yards is a wonderful reward. If you hadn't enjoyed the hike yet (hard to believe), the spring area is the reason for the hike alone.

Someone mentioned that you could expect to find elves, I think they were right, absolutely gorgeous. I'm sure the elves where there, just waiting for all of us to leave.

Rocks on the trail were also mentioned. Yup, very distracting, for a period of time. You have to concentrate on where you're stepping so much that you miss what is around you. And in many areas you could tell the trail maintenance people hadn't been along in quite a while either, there were pine cones every where :D .

We really enjoyed the small meadow areas with the tall grass brushing against your legs as you walk thru, wonderful feeling and amazing color.

We'll be back!!! :)

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average hiking speed 1.76 mph

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