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East Webber via Geronimo, AZ

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Difficulty 3.5 of 5
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Distance Round Trip 10.45 miles
Trailhead Elevation 5,400 feet
Elevation Gain 1,203 feet
Accumulated Gain 2,088 feet
Avg Time Round Trip 6 - 7 hours
Kokopelli Seeds 20.89
Backpack Yes & Connecting
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East Webber / BSA Rimview Loop
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Author joebartels
author avatar Guides 242
Routes 836
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Age 51 Male Gender
Location Phoenix, AZ
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Seasons   Spring to Autumn
Sun  5:35am - 7:28pm
Official Route
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Historic Fire Perimetersacres
🔥 Webber 200414.7 mi*
🔥 February 200617.7 mi*
🔥 2019 Coldwater Fire16.8k
🔥 2006 February Fire4.3k
🔥 2006 February14.5 mi*
🔥 2004 Webber Fire4.3k
🔥 2004 Webber14.7 mi*
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by joebartels

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Overview: Out-n-back hike to the origin of Weber Creek via Geronimo trailhead. 0.15mi south & west on Highline Trail #31. North about 2.75mi on Geronimo Trail #240. Continue northeast on East Webber Trail #289 about 1.9mi.

Hike: If you're hooked on lush creekside hikes this might leave you with a sour taste. In order to sink your teeth into the sweet nectar of upper Webber Creek (without a STEEP downclimb) you must conquer Geronimo! Geronimo Trail #240 that is... please read Mike's summary. As Mike mentions, the trail systems here are highly entwined with jeep roads. So if you're not into hiking jeep roads then stop reading. I would like to add I did not encounter any jeeps or anybody for that matter. I did encounter a pack of skinny turkeys. The pines are big and healthy. Additionally, nice views of the rim (few get to see) made it worthy of my time. However, I wouldn't drive great distances just for trail #240... no-sir-ree-bob.

I highly recommend downloading the GPS Route I have supplied or you'll risk entering the BSA camp. About 3 miles into the hike you'll be on a real (non-road) trail. Here on you'll be crossing the creek every now and then but rarely do you follow the creek until the very end. Unfortunately some of the canyon has been scorched by wildfire. As of this writing the dead pines are still providing shade. Most of the cascades are tiny. Pleasing creek views get better as you progress.

At one point you cross a creek twice without crossing back. The first of which is Patton Spring Draw(3.55mi). Never fear you are still on track. Further on you pass a field of lichen boulders. At 4.5mi comes one of the main feeder springs. It gurgles out of the opposing bank in rich green flora. This spring appears to be over 50% of the flow making up Webber Creek.

Turn back now and live without reason. It's only a quarter mile to the grand finale. The true spring of origin trickles down deep-brown rock slabs. Return as you came or a rude route continues up the rim for a shuttle.

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2007-08-19 joebartels
    WARNING! Hiking and outdoor related sports can be dangerous. Be responsible and prepare for the trip. Study the area you are entering and plan accordingly. Dress for the current and unexpected weather changes. Take plenty of water. Never go alone. Make an itinerary with your plan(s), route(s), destination(s) and expected return time. Give your itinerary to trusted family and/or friends.

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    From Payson head north towards the town of Pine on AZ87. It's about 12 miles to just past mile marker 265 and take a right on the Control Road. Follow the dirt Control Road for about 6 miles to a signed left for Geronimo Trailhead (Webber Creek). It's about 2 miles to the apparent trailhead with room for about five vehicles. The hike starts immediately crossing the creek.
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