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Apr 10 2026
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Barnhardt to South Fork of Deadman Creek, AZ 
Barnhardt to South Fork of Deadman Creek, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 10 2026
joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
Hiking19.80 Miles 4,257 AEG
Hiking19.80 Miles   12 Hrs   23 Mns   2.06 mph
4,257 ft AEG   2 Hrs   45 Mns Break
 
1st trip
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Karl recently cleared Davenport. Seemed like a good opportunity to go back to Club Ranch.

10 was game. Up front, I mentioned I couldn't care less about making it to the ranch, and he should head down quicker once we got to the divide trail. More of a get back in shape hike for myself, and I needed to test several things. A new power bank I bought after 4PC, how long would a charge last on the Apple Watch with several promising adjustments?

6:24 am
Par for the course up until Chilson Camp. If you enjoy a good old-fashioned gnat invasion, you are in for a treat.

After Chilson, John continued, and I took the first of four breaks. Originally, I thought I'd get to the last big drop before heading down to Club Ranch. Based on my progress, I changed it up to South Fork before he left.

Tillamook Honey-glazed beef jerky that I put in my pack last year was outstanding. Dark pocket aging brought out intense, sweet, savory flavors.

Davenport is a decent uneven tread until it meets a grassy slope. A couple of the tall cairns were barely visible. It gets increasingly steep down to the creek.

I filtered water at the creek for the hike back. It seemed really steep heading out, and then I realized I missed the first switchback... Lol

Took a short break under the one tree up to the grass slope. Then, when you're back on trail, there's a turn with a large tock that served as a good break spot.

Immediately upon reaching Chilson Camp, the gnats were intense. I suspect a quarter to a half-mile swath was slurried with beef broth, or they filmed another scene from Carrie at the slaughterhouse.

Later, out of the gnat zone, I stopped at a large slanted flat rock, thinking I would sleep for an hour. Minutes later, guess who's back. 10 knocked out seven semi-challenging miles quicker than I anticipated.

We heard what sounded like two 20-year-olds playing in the water at Big Kahuna Falls, but never saw them.

Five 15 or 16-year-old guys passed later on. Four shirtless, one in Crocs, none of them had a pack. Said they did eight miles. Probably six. They looked and sounded like they had a lot of fun.

Favorite quote of the day
There's a weather thread?

Synopsis
The symphony of nature is relaxing. Good stepping stone back to Lion/Lemmon caliber.
 Fauna
 Fauna [ checklist ]
[ checklist ]  Water Strider
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Wildflowers Observation Light
Western wallflower, Dudley, larkspur, yellow stuff

Green carrot plant like the cabin hike [ photo ]

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Big Kahuna Falls - Mazatzal Wilderness Light flow Light flow
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout No water at the crossing but plenty very nearby up canyon

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Chilson Spring Dripping Dripping
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Barely dripping but full

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Garden Seep Dripping Dripping
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Wet swath across trail

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max South Fork @ Davenport Crossing Light flow Light flow
Large pools, minimal flow from pool to pool.
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Bursera Lost Luge Loop, AZ 
Bursera Lost Luge Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 04 2026
joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
Hiking6.81 Miles 1,979 AEG
Hiking6.81 Miles   3 Hrs   9 Mns   2.26 mph
1,979 ft AEG      8 Mns Break
 
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My cognitive neuroscience podcast said learning is a trigger for joy. I decided to disambiguate with a new to me trail and blast off up Lost Ranch and splash down Lost Mine.

Flashes of hiking Bunyan Peak at the top of Lost Ranch. With the exception of other people, scattered rock is reminiscent of further west or SW.

Synopsis
Later realized I hiked Lost Ranch with L over four years ago. The nice thing about getting old is the gift of rediscovering.
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Bursera - Prospector Loop, AZ 
Bursera - Prospector Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 01 2026
joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
Hiking6.16 Miles 1,804 AEG
Hiking6.16 Miles   2 Hrs   35 Mns   2.42 mph
1,804 ft AEG      2 Mns Break
 
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Tibber got me hooked on podcast, aka audio crack. I realized that instead of ducking(lowering) other audio on Route Scout, silence when RS is speaking is preferred for podcast. After over a week with several AI agents, I couldn't get it to work on iOS, so it's strictly an Android option in RS settings.

Podcast are cool but I really need to get back into my Sinatra Metallica mix before I graduate to TED talks or bottom of the barrel talk radio.

Last week @JuanJaimeiii gave me a great Route Scout newbie perspective. As a result, a key stat should be stumbled upon easier.

I combined JJ's perspective to a perspective chums gave a couple weeks ago to the layout of files on the File page. I'm happy with the results but I know that just like switching columns on the homepage of HAZ, someone will go through withdrawals.

I stumbled upon Bursera Canyon recently because Telegraph was closed. Hopefully a raid to eliminate the Tesla Twins from soliciting at the trailhead.

Expecting the dullest of dull Tonto Grand Canyon or Bajada SoMo Inner Basin, I found it refreshing.

On one hand you have the constant roar of the freeway. The allure is the majesty of the Estrella's smackdab in front of you. Yeah I've seen them. Yeah I've been there but this showcases them like Humphreys approaching Flagstaff.

The cherry on top; the short canyon ascent is really cool because geology-wise it's not just rock like most of South Mountain, there's actual dirt. The top switchback catches a breeze like the ridge of Gila and the Goat Lode.

Since the name of the game at South Mountain is renaming trails I think we need to rename the Lost Mine side of Prospector to the Holy Luge. It's steep going down vs pure bliss ascending.

Unexpectedly passed a 20yo near noon heading up midway and then a guy in his 50s on the lower slope. Both had hiking poles.

After countless headaches of stopped activity recordings with Apple Watch, I finally figured out water lock is the way to go so your sweat doesn't become hidden gestures.

Perfect weather to enjoy the Palo Verde highlights.
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Piestewa Circumference - Freedom Trail #302Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
 Hiking avatar Mar 15 2026
joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
 Hiking6.23 Miles 1,963 AEG
 Hiking6.23 Miles   2 Hrs   42 Mns   2.40 mph
1,963 ft AEG      6 Mns Break
 
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The joy of Podcast lessons learned:
  • Trust is social currency
  • There is a fine line between TLI and TMI because you don't build trust without sharing. Feelings build trust, and gossip degrades trust.
  • Cavemen didn't draw pictures in caves of stick figures with cell phones*

*DA3 indirectly touched on this recently. Tibber did years ago. That was before she included a dozen stats in her triplogs that cavemen could have never understood


Starting to hit the sweet spot where by the time I get to the summit trail for the upper four furlongs, I'm just beginning to cook. Whereas non-locals are struggling with temperatures over 80°.

Overall, a nice little hike.
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Telegraph Pass Trail - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
 Hiking avatar Mar 14 2026
joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
 Hiking4.05 Miles 1,084 AEG
 Hiking4.05 Miles   1 Hour   49 Mns   2.59 mph
1,084 ft AEG      15 Mns Break
 
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I dove into the world of podcasts, and I listened to a podcast about decision-making. They were talking about procrastinating on picking a meal at a restaurant. If you see the same person a year later, that meal won't matter. Then I listened to a podcast about health and fitness. Every bite you take is a blueprint of your life.
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Telegraph - Prospector Lasso Loop, AZ 
Telegraph - Prospector Lasso Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 11 2026
joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
Hiking9.23 Miles 2,532 AEG
Hiking9.23 Miles   3 Hrs   24 Mns   2.74 mph
2,532 ft AEG      2 Mns Break
 
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They did about a 10th of a mile of trail work on National in the past 24 hours from the top of Ranger, heading west to were it meets the ridge briefly before skirting the Goat Lode. I never noticed that the trail was bad there but okay. Perhaps in progress because as opposed to being a flat ledge now it's a bona fide slanted fresh berm.

I needed to complete this one again because it has prime cell tower switching that wrecked havoc on Android elevation for over a decade. It worked and I had a hunch it would because of a wiring technique.

It's a nice loop but the thought of doing three laps to get in shape, turns my stomach.
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Telegraph - Prospector Lasso Loop, AZ 
Telegraph - Prospector Lasso Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 10 2026
joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
Hiking9.13 Miles 2,396 AEG
Hiking9.13 Miles   3 Hrs   46 Mns   2.43 mph
2,396 ft AEG      1 Min Break
 
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Unbelated post. Yesterday was the nicest day of the year. Everybody except Linda was on SoMo. Deluge around Kyrene on the way over today. Only one other hiker until descending Gila.

It wasn't a group palooza, but there were a fair number of hikers. The sun made an appearance just as I started up Lost Mine. Sunshine and perfect, crossing back.

I redesigned the audio duck* approach in RS in 7.4.14. I haven't tested iOS on a hike yet(undoubtedly bugged), but Android was flawless.

Chums put up a billboard on the I-10 about the RS Review Map, that nobody is interested in points. Fair observation, so I adjusted [ 7.4.17 ] in dev. Android blows at AEG near cell towers due to OS limitations.

Since I figured out Android audio that uses two languages I barely follow, I'll soon be testing a potential fix for the AEG on Android. It eliminates the need to turn off Improve Location Accuracy, which does the exact opposite of what it sounds like. Default ON uses a fraction of an iota less power by using cell towers. OFF creates beautiful elevation profiles, but Android is so content on saving battery that an OS level popup appears each time RS is loaded, chances are slim tolerating the popup.

*There are 2 types of audio: Native(sound files) & TTS(text-to-speech/voice). Ducking is when RS lowers other audio, such as music. Precise ducking deactivation with various scenarios is the goal: begin activity, return chime, off-trail beeps, split statistics, approaching waypoints, and settings play buttons.
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say goodbye
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Telegraph - Prospector Lasso Loop, AZ 
Telegraph - Prospector Lasso Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 09 2026
joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
Hiking9.37 Miles 2,489 AEG
Hiking9.37 Miles   3 Hrs   48 Mns   2.53 mph
2,489 ft AEG      6 Mns Break
 
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Busier than anticipated. I forgot it's the first Monday of the week. They get out of school for pretty much anything these days. Returning home, the sign said it was spring break, go figure. Heading up, a lanky kid with a long stride looked like he was totally bored bobbing his head side to side.

I passed a dad with his two 10-year-old boys right when he said losers make excuses. That's all I heard, so I dwelled on that for the next few miles.

There is generally somebody in a gabby, loud group who squeaks in a good morning or a hello. Simply because they're a decent person. In my case, I figure it is a safety net; please don't kill us, you odd-looking thing. The L & J lot must have been packed based on all the small groups.

Heading down, the hellos went from delivered to initiated. Then acknowledgment dwindled the lower I got. What I consider a ribbon hill is apparently a death climb. Whatever happened to enjoying the journey?

In the ravine at the bottom of Prospector, grasshopper invasion was in full swing. They were flying every which way; spring must be near. There was a guy barely in sight heading up. My initial thought was that there is no way I'm passing that guy. This is where Dave would say, yeah not with that attitude. Halfway up & maybe within fifty yards, he turned around. Probably best, I was down to toe push-ups.

Before National, I passed an older gent doing the loop in reverse. Without a spoken word, I'd wager neither of us would consider changing direction.

Easy butter miles on the ridges, which almost always have a breeze at any time of the year. Even on the hottest days, a breeze from one side or the other swoops up.

Today was sponsored in full by sunshine and a cool breeze!
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Wildflowers Observation Isolated
Two poppies on the National Trail at the top of Ranger. Other wildflowers don't count accordingly to the consensus.
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Tukee Prospector Luv Lomitas Loop, AZ 
Tukee Prospector Luv Lomitas Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 05 2026
joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
Hiking10.78 Miles 2,760 AEG
Hiking10.78 Miles   4 Hrs   23 Mns   2.47 mph
2,760 ft AEG      1 Min Break
 
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Lost Mine kicked my butt last week. When I romped the mine prepared today, Tony James said it best... that was fantastic!

Studio chatter in the remix, not original F1-11 lyrics.
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Telegraph Pass Trail - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
 Hiking4.13 Miles 1,085 AEG
 Hiking4.13 Miles   1 Hour   42 Mns   2.50 mph
1,085 ft AEG      3 Mns Break
 
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Adorable little old couple taking a picture of a male chuckwalla. As I passed, she said chuckwalla! Imagine they're fonda loons on Squam Lake too.
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Piestewa Circumference - Freedom Trail #302Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
 Hiking avatar Mar 01 2026
joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
 Hiking6.55 Miles 2,048 AEG
 Hiking6.55 Miles   3 Hrs   29 Mns   2.15 mph
2,048 ft AEG      26 Mns Break
 
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Now that the brutal winner of 26 is over, we can finally enjoy the purpose of a breeze again.

On Valentine's weekend, it was busy far from the summit trail. Last weekend it cooled down: ghost town. This weekend was declared by some as hot, and it was packed because the only thing better than love is solar heat!
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Telegraph - Prospector Lasso Loop, AZ 
Telegraph - Prospector Lasso Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Feb 26 2026
joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
Hiking9.30 Miles 3,067 AEG
Hiking9.30 Miles   3 Hrs   28 Mns   2.70 mph
3,067 ft AEG      1 Min Break
 
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Time flys, nearly four months since last. Excitingly warm but dragged getting up prospector hiking like I learned to hike by what others deem necessary.

A few poppies and lupine in shadow hollows.
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Dutch - Whiskey - Bluff Springs Loop, AZ 
Dutch - Whiskey - Bluff Springs Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Feb 23 2026
joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
Hiking15.28 Miles 2,250 AEG
Hiking15.28 Miles   7 Hrs   32 Mns   2.24 mph
2,250 ft AEG      42 Mns Break
 
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Road
Good as usual. They are in a losing battle stringing new barbed wire fencing. Stretches of supplies. Stretches of two wires. Perhaps half done. Three to four breaches, including one guy parked on the other side... Lol

Carney/Wave
Busy, sign posted about the closing as feng shui desert hater mentioned.

Dutch
The boring basin is a pleasant cheery green. Miner's Needle approach is at it's Zenith.

Whiskey
Trail condition seemed the same as always to me.

Magic Dragon
Ditto

Synopsis
Good to get out on a baby steps loop to get back into hiking. Good to see Bruce while he's still in his 60s.
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Wildflowers Observation Moderate
Lots of blooming brittlebush, heading up towards Miners Needle. Large stretches of small groups of 6-20 poppies. Not fields, snobs would rate it absolutely horrible. Lupine was notable, seemingly darker purple. Minimal Stinknet on hike, substantial along US60. Owl clover in one area. Phlox, buckwheat, others


dry Barks Canyon Dry Dry
dry at crossing

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Upper LaBarge Box Canyon Pools to trickle Pools to trickle

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Whiskey Spring Dripping Dripping
Seeping out of the boulder squashed spring box. Plenty of water nearby above and below in the creek bed.
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Feb 15 2026
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Piestewa Circumference - Freedom Trail #302Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
 Hiking avatar Feb 15 2026
joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
 Hiking6.43 Miles 2,292 AEG
 Hiking6.43 Miles   3 Hrs   14 Mns   2.17 mph
2,292 ft AEG      16 Mns Break
 
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Accepting the blueblocker fate, I was hiking in trifocal sunglasses because I wanted to take notes on testing the integration of Route Editor into RS.

Started heading to the first saddle. More difficult than fathomed. Just had no energy, felt like I needed a hamburger. After more thought, I decided I just needed a bite of a 1/32 inch charcoal-seared flavor jacket protecting a medium-rare 1/2 lb hamburger, as we had with Bob at GC.

Lost interest in RS>RE debating how to abort the death march. The only thing trifocal sunglasses are good for is driving or hiking on a road. Forget steps and steep grades. I already knew this from a month ago, but I wanted to give it another fair chance.

Passed a guy that would probably pummel me in an alley, but it appeared he scored a valentine and was on civil encounter manners, thus my life was spared with a formal hello.

Next up, I passed two ladies I couldn't see. Unless you're on something flat, forget trifocal sunglasses. Nevertheless, a pleasant hello!

Passed what appeared to be another recently paired couple. The larger set gentleman was not happy with the 3.9-mile choice. Within my 30-second passing range, he kept repeating, you said a moderate hike! She replied, the app calls this a moderate 3.9-mile hike. Figured it was best if I held my tongue instead of blurting out it's a glorified morning workout.

Passed an odd-looking gal that looked like the female version of Meathead from Meatballs.

On the west side, which I don't recall ever being crowded, were 2 tall girls blocking the trail, playing what I assumed was pat-a-cake. A small group was approaching from each side, and I was waiting for an opportunity to pass the small group in front of me.

Decided to avoid the whole situation, and I went wide. I passed the girls before the groups met. Right as I'm passing, one of them says, I want a piece of meat. Thought to myself, yeah, but just like one bite!

Later found out it's a hand clapping game called ooh ah I want a piece of pie. Who knew this was going to be a culture walk?

Ascending to the summit trail junction and warmed up, I was feeling much better, so I didn't skip the summit afterall.

The hike leader of one group was on the philosophy mic. Figured he had the keys, as the prisoners appeared to be in shut-up mode.

A shirtless guy introduced his body to the sun. Fear not, I slipped the sunglasses back on just in time. I could use some vitamin D but probably best to just scare the trophy wives on SoMo.

Finished passing a mother hiking with her three or four-year-old boy. She said see they hike on their right side, and we hike on our right side, and it all just works out.
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Brittlebush is starting to nod. Creosote is starting to look a little crispy.
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Piestewa Circumference - Freedom Trail #302Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
 Hiking avatar Feb 08 2026
joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
 Hiking5.92 Miles 1,911 AEG
 Hiking5.92 Miles   2 Hrs   53 Mns   2.32 mph
1,911 ft AEG      20 Mns Break
 
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Nice hike. This is more of an RS report/heads-up for Android in the last photo.
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White Canyon Upper - SW Approach FR319Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 28 2025
joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
Hiking10.61 Miles 2,045 AEG
Hiking10.61 Miles   6 Hrs   7 Mns   2.27 mph
2,045 ft AEG   1 Hour   27 Mns Break
 
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I was cordially invited based on skills, wit, and naturally appealing good looks. On the drive over, Linda explained how her previous three hiking partners blew chunks, twisted ligaments, and were attacked by fear. Arriving early for the near noon start, I indirectly suggested driving up to Lime Peak 4203. Fisure navigation was riveting.

Hiking down FR2260 that transitions to the origin of White Canyon went quicker than anticipated. Only minor areas made me pause to negotiate. I hadn't hiked with chums or kackle in years, but felt timeless. Their voices, like hearing Bob Dylan(age 84) after a hiatus, were an instant flash of this was going to be good... at least until the next song.

Chums babled geology money shots, and water channeling like he'd explored or looped here a half dozen times. It seemed more legit than BobP's geology lessons, but so does a third grader.

Just after the cave, Chums mentioned to Bruce(age 84), he could wait since it would be an out-n-back to some falls. He declined, but I took the freebie break due to the terrain.

With time to spare, I figured I'd check out the hike I was on. When I saw one of the routes continued past the falls, concern set in whether I had heard correctly. Just before I got to stage two of being another Linda hiking partner victim, voices settled my nerves.

It was [ Cheeseweed ] city in areas. Karl took a [ chilly swim ]. We found a nice spot for lunch for those who wanted to be in the sun and those who wanted to be in the shade. Denny showed up in spirit, and the balance of the group harassed him.

The 6 miles after lunch were a nice walk.

Synopsis
Not a favorite like C2P, 4PC, or Lion. Remarkable for an hour drive!
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[ checklist ]  Black Hills Tank

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Black Hills Tank 76-100% full 76-100% full
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout 84.9% full... small lake

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Crucifixon Tank 51-75% full 51-75% full
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Looked half full

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout
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Bluff Spring Mountain LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 01 2025
joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
Hiking16.42 Miles 2,941 AEG
Hiking16.42 Miles   7 Hrs   52 Mns   2.25 mph
2,941 ft AEG      35 Mns Break
 
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Overall, the road in is of zero concern. Supa smooth for the majority. The second of two major washes slows down the low riders momentarily.

The trail up Cardiac Hill is easier for two-thirds because of trail work, erosion fill, and use. The turn off for Cave Trail #233 is distinctive. A little flow crossing Barks and less near Peralta Rock Gap. Summer sounds of crickets and large swarms of gnats, but they were not annoying. Yellow skipper butterflies.

Bruce was cool enough to do any hike I desired, short of a death march. He's long wished to do this loop clockwise, as he despises the North-South Terrapin ascent. Just passing the Terrapin turn, I figured, why not, so we turned around.

Clockwise was intriguing, as I haven't felt that disorientation in the Supes in eons. I'd rather hike either direction in warmer to hot weather with a breeze than calm fairweather, but to each their own.

White Rock Spring to Holmes is a jungle in areas. Luckily, we cruised by all the side trips. I enjoy checking them out when it's dry, but it's pointless with abundant pools and canyons trickling.

I had to stop about eight more times than Bruce. It became apparent he was not hydrated for a 26-30 miler.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Isolated
Two to three more weeks for the cottonwoods.
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Wildflowers Observation Moderate
Flattop buckwheat, wolfberry, Parish Goldeneye, lots of exhausted fairy duster. Hints of filaree, which typically means a better-than-average wildflower season. Indian paintbrush, isolated Calypso, large fields of the base leaves of invasive California poppies...

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Barks Canyon Pools to trickle Pools to trickle

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Bluff Spring Mountain Canyon Pools to trickle Pools to trickle

dry Charlebois Canyon Dry Dry
Dry at the trail crossing. Water is guaranteed on this date up near the spring and down in LaBarge.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Music Canyon Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Didn't go close to it, but I guarantee there is water.
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Four Peaks Circumference, AZ 
Four Peaks Circumference, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Nov 08 2025
joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
Hiking30.28 Miles 7,660 AEG
Hiking30.28 Miles   23 Hrs   40 Mns   1.40 mph
7,660 ft AEG   2 Hrs    Break
 
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A battle of wills. Soldiering hackberry became an exercise in social thermodynamics. The solution—my own pair of pants— was strapped to John’s back, taunting me as he surged ahead, yo-yoing just out of hollering range. We finished the dayhike 1.5 hours after I picked him up.

5:29 am It's a 4.25mi/1270ft road walk from Mud Springs TH to Lone Pine TH. Albeit too warm for long pants, it was a perfect autumn morning.

Four Peaks Trail #130
6:53 am The trail seemed the same, in good condition, as in previous years. It's not wide like most of the AZT, but it gets the aye okay nod considering location and terrain. Passed two hunters maybe a mile before Black Bear Saddle. Pondered if they had a power haul drone, if they got anything, as five feet up or down might be your last.

Alder Creek Trail #82
There is no trail; it would need an army of @jacobemerick's with @BiFrost to bring it back.

Seldom explored Alder Creek 6-mile East Segment
Black Bear Saddle ▶ Brown's Cave
9:30 am A reconnaissance mission 2025-10-24 revealed few if any had been in the least used 6-mile segment down Alder Creek since Karl and I's 2014 foray.

Possibly 30 feet of trail and the stone work of a long-gone terrace. Pools and clear flowing water off and on for four miles that disappeared for short stretches. No sign of [ photo ] .

Prepping for this hike, I hiked Mount Lemmon —approx 26.5mi/7700 AEG— up and down five times. Forgot I needed six miles, creek rock hopping stabilizer muscles. 5:40 pm, 367 feet from Brown's Cave, 12-14 miles to go. 10s helped bring this dream home and would only get near this and the true lore of the terminus of the Mazzies... I'm an idiot.

Rarely Adventured 3.5-mile South Segment
Brown's Cave ▶ Nondescript Saddle
5:40 pm I told 10s it was a fair trail through a fairyland of open desert... BYO imagination. Unfortunately, we missed the grandeur of this segment; it was pitch dark until the 8:26 pm moonrise

Curious Four Wheeler 1.75-mile West Segment
Nondescript Saddle to Cane Spring TH
8:20 pm This is the most used and least exciting segment.

Cane Spring Trail #77
9:07 pm Once again, I am shocked by how well this trail travels the lower 1.5 miles. The upper mile prepares the victim for #83.

Soldier Camp Trail #83
11:26 pm If this were a well-maintained trail, people would hate it for dipping in and out of two huge ravines. From the Cane Spring Trail #77 junction, it's a simple cairn hunt for 0.55 miles. It goes from bad to atrocious. John was carrying my pack as an olive branch gesture for ripping my arm off last year. Somewhere in the atrocious stretch I bit my lip and hollered ahead "hey, could you stop so I can get my pants out of my pack".

The final 1,100 ft ascent from Boulder Creek to Big Saddle —2:15 to 3:40 am— is not a bushwhack but I was struggling.

Speaking of shame, it's a shame two other mountain trails close to the Valley have been abandoned. Cienega Spring Trail #253 looks three times worse. The unnumbered trail to the north looks marginally better.

5:05 am Finished

Synopsis
Never say never. Who's next.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Alder Creek - Four Peaks Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Pools nearby. It was running good off and on and clear for the 6 miles we came down. Probably water for about 2 1/2 miles.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Mud Spring Dripping Dripping
Approaching, John yelled SWAMP as he stepped into the namesake. Water in the... didn't take a photo, the spring box in topohiker's photos may have been repaired, but I only caught it out of the corner of my eye, concentrating on the end of the hike coming quickly.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Shake Spring Dripping Dripping
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Good size, clear pool of algae, it is dripping
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Telegraph Pass Trail - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
 Hiking avatar Nov 05 2025
joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
 Hiking3.43 Miles 792 AEG
 Hiking3.43 Miles   1 Hour   16 Mns   2.74 mph
792 ft AEG      1 Min Break
 
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Fourth consecutive test hike after humdinger filter rewrites based on three previous hikes collecting data, RS should be a lot closer in fine detail to other apps. It'll be a while before a release. Looks promising on this route.

RS previously recorded 500 points average on this hike

Android S24
3.43 mi - 776 AEG - 1292 points [ RS ]
3.27 mi - 820 AEG - 1621 points [ AllTrails ]
3.46 mi - 744 AEG - 4729 points [ Strava ]

iPhone 16e
3.25 mi - 807 AEG - 1286 points [ RS ]
3.15 mi - 768 AEG -- 456 points [ Gaia ]
3.32 mi - 751 AEG - 4879 points [ Strava ]

Apple Watch 11
3.26 mi - 787 AEG - 4593 points [ Apple Workout ]
3.16 mi - 845 AEG - 1410 points [ AllTrails ]
3.28 mi - 808 AEG -- 758 points [ Gaia ]
3.42 mi - 751 AEG - 1666 points [ Strava ]


It's impossible to please all. I wanted to tackle it after resolving the AEG issues over the summer that Team00 pointed out. Zooming in on this one, satellite on MapDEX, shows the tiny variations between various apps, 3 devices within 2 ft of each other.

Notable recent HAZ edits:
  • Everyone has the opportunity to suggest Label page feature photos: +Detail and +Full
  • KMZ & KML upload/download should work now in Route Editor
    MapDEX is in the middle of a year-long update to a new Google api, so KMZ routes will likely freeze the users' browsers
  • Opened the flood gates on RS Save/Share EDIT Route, load in whatever other data you want, draw boundaries as needed. If "Also update Distance, AEG, Total Time & Breaks" is checked & more than 1 track, a pop-up now offers a list of the tracks you want to include in stats
  • Save/Share triplog entry now has Popup Draft (map)
  • Wish List wishes with notes and date now allow HTML on-site linking for those that can figure out "a" tags
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Mount Lemmon from Catalina State ParkTucson, AZ
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Hiking avatar Oct 26 2025
joebartelsTriplogs 6,000
Hiking26.39 Miles 7,849 AEG
Hiking26.39 Miles   14 Hrs   4 Mns   2.19 mph
7,849 ft AEG   2 Hrs    Break
 
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Arrival
48° to start, nobody else in the parking lot. Nothing motivates me like cold weather. I did not want to finish in the cold, so I got started quickly.

Objective
Nobody makes Shepherd's Pie like Mom. That doesn’t mean they’re made incorrectly, just different. I haven't found anything nearly as good as Mom used to make, but I enjoy checking them all out.

Route Scout was created for hiking with several specific reasons. My former Garmin Fenix 2 was designed to record enough points that if you go from hiking the average 2.1 mph to a jet fighter corner-speed of 440 Knots (506 mph/0.659 speed of sound), it has enough points to represent. RS was designed to eliminate Garmin spiral scribbles every time you pause.

The purpose of this hike was to collect route data for multiple sources so I can add filter option(s) to suit a wider audience.

Hike
Aside from pleasant, the hike up was uneventful to the saddle, except for the first creek crossing after Romero Pools.

A mile or two before reaching the gate where the road begins, I chatted with an SAHC guy more than usual.

I stepped into the parking lot at exactly 1 PM. Took a picture, took a 728 millisecond break, and turned around.

Stopped at Quartzsite Spring on the way back to collect water and take a lunch break. The road was much busier with walkers/hikers/bikers in early September, so I only expected one or two groups to even pass by, let alone have an interest in the little spring nook. Just situated with my socks off to let my feet breathe, a group of kids looks down and I hear something... Are you kidding? We're not going down there; he has his feet out!

About 8 miles to go, I passed a guy who looked like a large scarf with a hiking pole and reminded me of the HAZ barber who used to hike with Linda and Wally. Nothing beats a good wilderness cut, but I got a trim 12 days ago.

Mega Synopsis
Abbreviated from the book, I could write about this multi-app journey. I did a ~3.2mi Telegraph test hike days before figuring out all the ins and outs of 3 new apps and 1 device. That typical one-hour hike was a ten-hour journey. Along with a few other edits on HAZ, I've updated the legacy +Add > GPS Route initial screen to hopefully save others time on that approach if they so choose.

As of recent, RS stats while recording are similar to what transfers to Save/Share. It's all over the board in between because I had to figure out other stuff first, and I will soon work on that part. There used to be huge differences between Android and iOS.

App Stats
RS - Android S24 | 26.57 mi • 7,587 AEG • 4,592 pts
RS - iPhone 16e | 26.38 mi • 7,749 AEG • 4,921 pts
Apple Watch Workout | invalid, missing segments*
All Trails - Android S24 | 26.67 mi • 7,434 AEG • ? pts
All Trails - iPhone 16e | 25.75 mi • 7,415 AEG • ? pts
Gaia - Android S24 | 24.92 mi • ? AEG 6213(-6204) • 8,302 pts
Gaia - iPhone 16e | 24.92 mi • ? AEG 6241(-6231) • 4,958 pts
Strava - Android S24 | 26.78 mi • 7,660 AEG • ? pts
Strava - iPhone 16e | 26.42 mi • 7,673 AEG • ? pts


*stopped twice when I took it off to charge it mid-hike. There's no way you're getting 24 hours unless you put it in low battery mode, coupled with fewer heart rate readings... maybe 16 hours. Apple Watch didn't fail or glitch me. It isn't designed for 14-hour hikes. Using WorkOutDoors now to bridge that issue.

Route Editor
RS - Android S24 | 26.57 mi • 7,158 AEG • 4,592 pts
RS - iPhone 16e | 26.42 mi • 7,179 AEG • 4,921 pts
Apple Watch Workout | 29.17 mi • 7,565 AEG • 48,554 pts
All Trails - Android S24 | 26.66 mi • 7,565 AEG • 48,554 pts
All Trails - iPhone 16e | 25.74 mi • 7,352 AEG • 11,580 pts
Gaia - Android S24 | 26.18 mi • 7,321 AEG • 8,302 pts
Gaia - iPhone 16e | 25.84 mi • 7,213 AEG • 4,958 pts
Strava - Android S24 | 27.84 mi • 7,266 AEG • 51.056 pts
Strava - iPhone 16e | 28.13 mi • 7,289 AEG • 50,462 pts


Historically and currently, for each person who contacts me about straight lining on iOS, I get about 25 for Android. The number of settings required on an iPhone can be counted on one hand. You need three hands and a pain reliever to get'r done on Android. To complicate, the settings change up to four times a year because that's how Android rolls. Use another app or device if you can't figure it out. Hundreds of Android users aren't magically getting lucky. I'll happily set them for you too, if you want to hit this lap on Lemmon.
 Named place
 Named place [ checklist ]
[ checklist ]  Cascade Spring
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Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial
Kickin'

Massachusetts and Vermont snobs need not apply
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Wildflowers Observation Light
You might see a wildflower on this hike year round

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The creek was a clear, low-flow, with large pools.

Since I have not had time in the 5 hikes to explore, I'm leaving this at [32.407026050663,-110.85251605096] as bretinthewild created. South side of camp, 50 feet from creek.

If it is a spring, I do not believe it is at that location. I looked around that area 6 weeks ago and found nothing.

This observation is 210 feet NE @ 5.1 miles. Which is the first creek crossing since Romero Pools. When I crossed the creek minutes later upstream, it was dry.
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