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Point Trail - West Clear Creek, AZ

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Canyons are inherently risky. Flash floods occur without notice on sunny days. Technical skills & surrounding topography knowledge required yet does not eliminate risk.
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Difficulty 3 of 5
Route Finding 2 of 5
Distance Round Trip 7.2 miles
Trailhead Elevation 6,580 feet
Elevation Gain -750 feet
Avg Time Round Trip 4-6 hours
Kokopelli Seeds 10.95
Interest Off-Trail Hiking, Ruins, Historic & Perennial Creek
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Author bmaaske
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Routes 1
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Trips 4 map ( 27 miles )
Age 57 Male Gender
Location Phoenix, AZ
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Preferred   May, Jun, Jul, Aug → 8 AM
Seasons   Summer to Early Autumn
Sun  5:32am - 7:33pm
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Beautiful intro to canyoneering
by bmaaske

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This is a beautiful canyon to explore for those that are a little adventurous and not afraid to get more than a little wet. I've wanted to try some canyoneering but wasn't committed to something needing ropes or swim fins. This hike exactly fits the bill. You can decide how far up the canyon you want to go and can do this as an out-and-back, or even a one-way if you drop a car at the Maxwell or Tramway trailheads to the northeast. We hiked from Point trailhead to the petroglyph wall local, right between Maxwell Trail #37 and Tramway Trail #32. We dawdled a lot and explored a lot. It took us exactly 6 hours start-to-finish.

West Clear Creek is located on top of the Mogollon Rim. The east end of West Clear Creek is a 700ft deep sandstone walled canyon with nearly vertical walls throughout. This is one of the few trailheads allowing access to this area from the south side. A few miles further up the canyon to the east are the more popular Maxwell and Tramway trailheads accessible from the north rim of this canyon.

The trails on this hike are not always obvious. You will sometimes need to do some boulder-hopping, bushwhacking, and often have to cross the creek, sometimes in waist-deep water. As the water flow varies, you may have slightly different experiences. But in any case, plan to get wet. Pack your bag with the intention that you will probably slip and fall in. Two of the four in our party did just that. Make sure all your stuff is water-tight. The rocks in the creek are very slimy. Trek poles were a great help in providing additional stability while crossing the creek.

Hike: Starting at the trailhead at N34 32.747 W111 26.018, you immediately drop down into the canyon on a rather steep trail. There is no actual climbing involved, but you will need your hands in many places. The trail down enters the canyon bottom at N34 32.873 W111 26.201. We went entirely up the canyon, but just a little way down canyon from where the trail enters the canyon is a cool weeping wall worth checking out if you have time.

From the trail's entry point, proceed up the canyon to the east. You will almost immediately need to get wet. There may be ways to scamper up a canyon wall in some places and avoid getting wet, but it is impossible to avoid in several areas. You might as well embrace it. Additionally, it is probably safer to wade through the water in many places than climb around on cliffs.

As you proceed up the canyon, you will find a cool side canyon to your left about 0.3 miles from the start at the bottom of the canyon. It's worth exploring and doesn't go back too far. Another 0.5 miles or so, you will pass a spring flowing into the canyon from the south wall. It has a good flow and appears to be coming straight out of the ground.

About 2 miles further up the canyon on the north wall, you will pass another side canyon. Immediately after this, on the main canyon wall, there are a bunch of interesting petroglyphs. Some of these are obviously fake, but the majority of them are the real deal. The glyphs are at N34 33.367 W111 24.972.

The Maxwell trail meets the canyon bottom about another 0.5 miles up from the glyphs. I understand that you can continue up this canyon for several more miles. We ended our hike at this point and turned around, and went back the way we came.

The ascent back up the canyon again was steep and challenging. You will want your hands free to hang on and assist in climbing over large rocks, trees, and ledges.

I think this canyon is every bit as beautiful as the West Fork of Oak Creek. It has diverse flora, vines everywhere, cattails, maple, oak, pine, fir, etc. It doesn't get much greener than this in Arizona. I've been told that there is a lot of poison ivy in this area. While I saw things that possibly could be poison ivy, none of us got into any.

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2009-08-23 bmaaske
    WARNING! Hiking and outdoor related sports can be dangerous. Be responsible and prepare for the trip. Study the area you are entering and plan accordingly. Dress for the current and unexpected weather changes. Take plenty of water. Never go alone. Make an itinerary with your plan(s), route(s), destination(s) and expected return time. Give your itinerary to trusted family and/or friends.

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    FR / Dirt Road / Gravel - Car Okay

    To 142E Trailhead
    From Phx, take I-17 N to exit 287/HWY 260. Take 260 E and just before milepost 249, turn left/N onto FR 144. Take FR 144 1.8 miles and turn left onto FR 149. Follow FR 149 1.1 miles to a T junction with FR 142. Turn right onto FR 142 and follow it .8 mile to FR 142E on the left (there was a sign for 142D and on the other side of the same road was a rock painted with 142E). Stay straight on FR142 another 0.8 miles until it dips down and crosses Tom's Creek. There are parking options in this area off the road.

    2016-07 LindaAnn writes: The last 1/3 mile or so on 142E is the only rough part, maybe not great for low clearance, but easy enough to park there and walk a little extra to the trailhead.

    From PHX (I-10 & AZ-51) 132 mi - about 2 hours 30 mins
    From TUC (Jct 1-10 & Grant) 237 mi - about 3 hours 59 mins
    From FLG (Jct I-17 & I-40) 90.2 mi - about 1 hour 51 mins
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