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Tonto Trail: Grandview Trail to South Kaibab
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Caves, Mines, and History
by PrestonSands

The Grandview Trail was built in 1892 to reach the rich "Last Chance" copper mine on Horseshoe Mesa. Much of this steep trail was covered in tightly fitted cobblestones, some of which can still be seen today. Mule trains would bring copper ore up to Grandview Point, where there was a processing mill. Horseshoe Mesa makes a great destination for either a day hike or a backpacking trip; I was 12 years old when I first hiked this trail with my dad.


The trail begins at Grandview Point on the south rim of the Grand Canyon, about 10 miles east of Grand Canyon Village. The trail immediately begins descending the Kaibab Limestone cliff through a series of switchbacks blasted into the rock. Some parts of the trail are supported by stacked wooden logs. At the base of the Kaibab wall, the trail levels off for a ways as it wraps its way around an island of rock. Once on the east face of the island, the trail drops through the Coconino Sandstone via cobblestone covered switchbacks. At the base of the switchbacks is Coconino Saddle, a notch in the cliffs that makes a fine rest stop. To your right (south), there is a nice view of Sinking Ship and upper Hance Creek canyon. Below Coconino Saddle, the trail descends into the red rocks of the Hermit Shale and the Supai Formations. Enjoy the shade on these next switchbacks, soon after you will leave most of the trees behind. Along the next couple of miles to Horseshoe Mesa, the original trail has been covered over by rock slides, but the trail is not hard to follow.

Upon reaching the south end of Horseshoe Mesa, you will come across some remnants of the old mining operation. The trail passes an old caved in tunnel, with many pieces of green chrysacola and malachite (copper ores) scattered around. Soon you will come to the junction of the scary and treacherous side trail to Miner's Spring (also known as Page Spring), which eventually takes you to Hance Creek. Miner's Spring is at the base of the Redwall Limestone cliff, and is the closest water source for Horseshoe Mesa. (The Park Service says the water MUST be treated, however, every time I have been here, I let the water drip from the ceiling of the alcove directly into my water bottles, and have never gotten sick.) There are also a couple of mines to explore along the Miner's Spring Trail, one at the top of the cliff, the other at the bottom of the cliff just before the spring. Be very careful if you decide to enter any of the mines, as some of the rock walls inside are crumbling, with evidence of past cave-ins! On one of our trips to these mines, we encountered a man who said he was mapping these mines for National Geographic magazine. He claimed that there were seven levels of mine tunnels within Horseshoe Mesa!

After passing the junction with the Miner's Spring Trail, the Grandview Trail arrives at the old stone miner's dining hall. The campgrounds are near here, just east of the trail. There were several cabins on this mesa during the mining days, and there are rusty relics scattered everywhere. The Grandview Trail continues northwest from the old stone building, passing on the west side of the rocky butte at the center of Horseshoe Mesa. Where the trail crosses a small drainage due west of the butte, you will see a faint side trail following the drainage down to the edge of the cliff. This is the trail to The Cave Of The Domes (Horseshoe Mesa Cave). At the cliff's edge, the side trail turns right (north) and quickly arrives at the entrance to the cave. This is a fairly good sized cave, characterized by short sections of crawl spaces, which open up into dome-shaped rooms. Many of the caves' stalactites were broken off by early 20th century tourists, and brought up to the South Rim. Some formations are still there, though. Towards the back of the cave, there is a large 30 foot tall hallway, with some bacon-like formations on the walls.

Beyond the junction with the cave trail, the Grandview Trail continues out to the northwest arm of Horseshoe Mesa. It was on this stretch where we encountered some fierce winds on a 2002 backpacking trip. I was carrying a 70 pound pack, and was almost blown off the trail. Now at the edge of Horseshoe Mesa, the trail begins a mile long descent through the Redwall Limestone to the Tonto Trail below. This is the official end of the Grandview Trail, however, I have read that the trail originally continued on down to the Colorado River in the early 1900's.

History: Impressions of the dazzling topography of Grand Canyon have changed and shifted since that day in the summer of 1540 when Garcia Lopez de Cardenas gazed out from the South Rim. The conquistador saw a worthless desert wasteland, nothing more than a barrier to political expansion. At the opposite extreme, the modern view tends toward the romantic, reveling in what we today perceive as the remarkable spirituality of the gorge. Products of the age in which they lived, American pioneers arriving in the 1890s were more practical and utilitarian: they assumed with so much exposed bedrock inevitably there had to be mineral riches waiting to be claimed by those willing to go below and look. Would-be miners fanned out across the inner canyon, probing everywhere, and at a place called Horseshoe Mesa found what they sought. Rich copper deposits initially averaging 30% pure promised wealth, but only if transported from the depths. Optimism reigned supreme, a route was scratched out, and in February 1893 an endless succession of mule trains began moving raw ore to the rim along a rough canyon track originally known as the Berry Trail, more recently as the Grandview Trail. More than any other canyon trail, the Grandview is steeped in the legacy of the mining days at Grand Canyon. Numerous small artifacts associated with these halcyon days are scattered across the top of Horseshoe Mesa, providing a link across the years. Hikers can inspect the physical remains of this bygone era while enjoying canyon scenery at its finest.

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The original Grandview Trail was created to connect the rim with the copper mines on Horseshoe Mesa. The well built trail eventually provided access to more tourists than miners, as the Grandview trail provided one of the best access routes into the canyon for its time. The undamaged segments of the pioneer trail in the upper half of the canyon testify to the engineering prowess of the builders as they devised solution after creative solution to the problems posed by the landscape.

Start off the rim from the established Grandview Point overlook. The Kaibab/Toroweap section traverses steep ground and the old trail is eroded so attention to the problems at hand is essential. Vertical steps were surmounted by construction of log "cribs" that were chained or pinned to the cliff face to provide a foundation for the trail where nature provided none. The exposure here impresses some hikers as hazardous. Unfortunately, several of the historic cribs were swept away by landslides during the winter of 2005. Trail crews restored the trail, but not the historical context of the old logs. A series of sloping ledges at the top of the Coconino cliff demands caution especially when icy or wet. Be careful throughout the Kaibab and Toroweap - a fall here could have catastrophic consequences.

Original "cobblestone riprap" trail construction shows throughout most of the Coconino. Large slabs of sandstone placed edgewise provided a durable (albeit labor intensive) walking surface. The trail comes to the top of a dramatic east-facing gully at Coconino/Hermit contact (known locally as Coconino Saddle) that offers tantalizing views into the upper valley of Hance Creek. Steep cobblestone switchbacks below Coconino Saddle dispense with most of the Supai Formation before the walking moderates and the trail begins a gradually descending traverse across the slope to Horseshoe Mesa.

Horseshoe Mesa offers a myriad of attractions. The campsites are located east of the historic masonry structure. Remnants of mining operations, including rusty cans, nails, tools and structures are protected as archeological resources. Please leave these objects as you found them, where you found them. Backpackers headed deeper into the canyon can choose between three trails that link the rim of Horseshoe Mesa and the Tonto Trail. The northernmost trail that descends the east side of the western arm of the "horseshoe" is the most civilized of these options. Most of the original switchbacks have survived so this route is relatively straightforward, intersecting the Tonto Trail north of Horseshoe Mesa. Hikers can continue along the Tonto about 1.5 miles west to Cottonwood Creek or about 2.2 miles east to Hance Creek. The trail down the west side of the mesa is more demanding, severely washed out in the Tonto Group above the bed of Cottonwood Creek. The path off the east side to Page Spring and Hance Creek is probably the most difficult and exposed. Recent trail work has rendered the hardest place a bit easier, but the potential for a nasty fall exists throughout the Redwall descent. Watch for the spur trail to Page (aka Miners) Spring near the bottom of the Redwall.

Modern backpackers use the Tonto Trail to connect the Grandview Trail with points beyond. An established trail follows the bed of Cottonwood Creek to the top of the Tapeats Formation where the Tonto heads west toward the South Kaibab Trail. Hikers walking east from Hance Creek can follow the Tonto Trail toward Mineral Canyon. The Tonto Platform starts breaking down near the west rim of Mineral Canyon causing the trail to drop below the Tapeats Sandstone to descend Supergroup slopes to the bed of Mineral Canyon. Exiting at the mouth of Mineral Canyon on the east side is a bit tricky. The trail splits as it rounds the point before starting down the slope to Hance Rapids. The upper trail is straightforward, but the lower option requires walkers to bend low and traverse a narrow and exposed ledge. There are a couple of ways across the talus to the shoreline at Hance Rapids and the foot of the New Hance Trail.

Water Sources: Hance Creek and Page Spring (aka Miners Spring) are permanent, year-round water sources. The southernmost spring in Cottonwood Creek is reliable during cooler seasons but occasionally runs dry during hot weather. O'Neill Spring and the northern spring in Cottonwood are undependable at best. There is no water available between the rim and Horseshoe Mesa, nor between Hance Creek and Hance Rapids.

Campsites: Backpackers camping on Horseshoe Mesa (BF5) must camp in the designated campsites. Three small group sites are located east of the standing masonry structure. The large group site is further north, east of the little butte that caps Horseshoe Mesa. Toilet facilities are located at both areas. Camping is not allowed in or near the historic mines or structures. Camping in the Cottonwood (BG9) and Hance Creek (BE9) Use Areas is "at-large". All hikers should bring animal proof food containers; mice and ravens are especially adept at stealing food and opening packs and bags in this area.

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With 5 women from Tucson (a couple were old friends) I hiked down Grandview Trail to Horseshoe Mesa, set up camp, and stayed a couple of nights. On the layover day my two old friends and I hiked down to Page Spring, picked up 4 liters of water, and then on down to the Tonto Trail, west. We then hiked up the Grandview Trail, which goes up a notch in between the arms of the horseshoe, and back to camp. The other gals opted to just hike to Page Spring.

Also, on the first day, a couple of us hiked out to the end of the east arm to where, upriver, you can see Hance Rapids, and downriver you can see the river in the Grapevine area.

It was a really great trip, other than the wind! Very windy, especially at night. I was glad my tent was very well-staked, and I had no problems with it, other than a bit of flapping.

It was during the full moon, so we were treated to the beautiful moonrise before heading into our tents due to the wind and somewhat chilly conditions.

It had been more than two years since my last inner Canyon backpack. This had been two years during which I struggled with foot and shoe problems. I had no problems with pain on this trip. I had done a lot of training hikes. On the way down my pack weighed 43.4 pounds because I carried 8 liters of water. I had no trouble with this weight. I did this so that I could avoid having to go to the spring twice. I ended up giving water away, because I had plenty, while several others began to run out. I had been to Horseshoe Mesa before, and I wanted the option of having plenty of water in camp for the first dinner and breakfast. On the way out, even with over 2 liters in my Platypus hose bag, I am sure it was only about 25 pounds, felt very light.

I was sad to see that Page Spring no longer has the ferns hanging down from the top of it. They are now only on the bottom of it. It used to drip a lot more from above, creating a habitat for the ferns. I hadn't been there for at least 12 or 13 years. It was my third trip to the area. My first trip there was in October 1994.

Wildflowers
Beavertail cactus, currants, cliff rose, etc.
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We didn’t get up to the Canyon until after 2, but there was still time for a quick hike down to Horseshoe Mesa for a little sight seeing and exploring. We ended up needing headlamps for the final stretch, but it was a nice little leg stretcher after the drive from Phoenix.
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I haven't posted in a while because I have been mountain biking a lot more than trailrunning and hiking (4th right meniscus surgery has force that) but I am going to try and put a few of my big hikes on here. Last Sunday, I drove up with 3 friends to say my temporary good-byes to the Grand Canyon (I am moving to Arkansas is a couple weeks). I decided I wanted to do a non-corridor trail that I had not done before so we pick Grandview Trail to Horseshoe Mesa. Great hike and I love the area though August probably isn't the best month to explore. I would love to backpack down there for a few days to really experience. Very steep trail and more technical than the corridor trails but loved hiking the Canyon without the crowds. Did not see one person once we left the rim. See my 3 minute video of our trip below.

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Tonto-New Hance-Grandview
My hats off to Denny for putting this together. When you try to assemble a larger group, it's like herding turtles. (A job he's highly qualified to do)
He was busy arranging a shuttle up until 10 minutes before he went to bed.

Denny's on a mission to complete the entire Tonto Trail. With this section, I've completed the Tanner to Hermit portion with him.

We started on the New Hance Trail at 8am on a chilly morning. It didn't take long to warm up though. New Hance is one steep uneven mutha. My knees were barking up a storm. I would have lost the bet if someone would have told me that you actually gain 400' of AEG while going down this one. Staying upright and taking in the views while hiking, becomes tough on this one.
This section was slower going than we expected. It was 7 miles to the river.
:next: https://youtu.be/o8 ... 8bIU

We ate lunch at the New Hance Rapids in front of a clear flowing Colorado River.
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Next we were on the Tonto Trail, We'd be on this for 10 miles. It got a little warm on a short portion by the river, but then the clouds and breeze came back and it was perfect. I really enjoyed this section of the Tonto.
We all topped off our water at New Hance Creek for the slog out.

Now on Grandview Trail, the fun begins. It was slow going for me. I was gassed. I had about an hour with the headlamp on to finish.

Denny, thanks for setting this up, driving and arranging for perfect weather.
Good hiking with Dave and Preston again.
Great meeting Hippy's Friend Frank.
We had some interesting conversations.
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Grandview and Old Grandview
This was my first time on the Grandview trail. I did not have route scout going (this was my pre-route scout life), so I'm not quite sure of the total mileage for this trip.


Friday: Arrived at Grandview Point at last light on Friday evening. Hiked to Cottonwood Creek in the dark and noticed many places where my high beam shown off the side of the path in to total darkness. Don't fall! ;)
The hike down only took three hours.

Saturday: Day hike from Cottonwood Creek down to the Tonto trail. We headed West and hit the Old Grandview Trail. My buddy Ben packed his large-format film camera and gear down there... :wlift:
He's a professional so it must have been worth it ;) We at lunch on the banks of the Mighty Colorado.

Unfortunately for Ben, he started to feel super sick on the hike back up from the River, but somehow managed to get his heavy camera bag and himself off the Old Grandview without any of us sharing his gear.
When we arrived back at the junction of Cottonwood Creek and the Tonto Trail, the rest of our crew headed back to our campsite where we had left our gear that morning. I hit up the Cottonwood Creek narrows. It's nice down there.

Sunday: Got an early start and explored all the cool stuff on Horseshoe Mesa, then took our time back up the Grandview. Stopped for Diablo Burgers in Flag because that's a necessity.
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We decided to head back to the Grand Canyon for Thanksgiving weekend and got lucky with some Cottonwood Creek permits off the Grandview Trail. We spent three days below the rim and had a sweet hike down the Old Grandview Trail.

We left Phoenix on Friday morning and drove up to the Grand Canyon and started hiking around 11:30am. We made quick time down the Grandview Trail and descended the west side to Cottonwood Creek. We selected a campsite and then spent some time day hiking around the area. We knew it would get dark early so we returned to camp where we ate dinner and hydrated. It was dark by 6pm and got cold soon after. We spent the evening in the tent in our sleeping bags. I have a new zero degree bag and was very comfy throughout the cold night.

Day two started slow for us. We took our time and had breakfast and coffee. We left camp after 10am and headed west on the Tonto for the Old Grandview Trail. The hike was only a few miles and we easily found the large cairn signaling the start. From there we made the descent and were happy to see an established route. As we descended through the Tapeats Break we noticed three guys below us making their way down the route too. We continued on.

The Old Grandview Route has the feel of a roller coaster. It's steep and then levels off and then steep again through a chute followed by a long steep and loose descent through a rockfall ending at the river. The route was a joy and easy to follow. We both took extra special care not to knock any rocks loose because of the group below us. We took our time and eventually reached the beach. The three guys were from Flagstaff and we chatted for a bit. We mostly admired this special place along the river. The views were breathtaking even though you can't see far. We didn't mind.

After our break Claire and I made the climb out. Again we took our time and were very careful with our footing. The going was slow but steady. Both of us made it up no problem. This route was such a joy and I'm glad we spent the time to see it through. Afterward we headed about a mile west to a lookout where we took some pics above the river. From there we returned to camp and settled in for the night.

We woke on day three and broke down camp and filtered more water. From there we made the hike back to the rim. We took a break on Horseshoe Mesa and a few more short breaks along the hike up. The top of the trail was snowy with some ice but was not an issue. We topped out and then made the return to Phoenix with a stop at NiMarco's for some Golden BBQ Wings!

This was another memorable trip to the Grand Canyon. The Old Grandview Route is a lot of fun and is definitely worth checking out. It's quite the ride!
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So this was pure awesomeness!

Jamie Compos suggested this butte and I'm not one to ever turn down some offtrail
So we set off at 8am got dropped off at Grandview by his friend and after a mere ten minute walk down GV we reached our offtrail starting point.

From the top of the coconino we scrambled down a narrow scree filled break in the coco "The Chute" we call it.
It was a long rocky slide but fun!! I love that kind of stuff.

Once into the supai layers we contoured out west and down to the lower of supai layers.
There's a greyish saddle you're aiming for.

Once you hit that saddle we headed out toward the butte! The first supai scramble after the saddle reminded me of the tiny ridge between Cardenas and Escalante buttes.

When we the scramble we followed the sheep path on the north side almost to the end then climb atop.
More supai. Gorgeous boulder field. Another climb.

When we finally reached the butte we had to head up the south side and find our way up to a narrow ledge and a very Battleship-esque looking up climb.

Its a short 7-9 foot chimney. Jamie had to take his backpack off and have me hand it up to him after the chimney.

Because once up that there's a sweet little squeeze hole to crawl through!

For anyone my size there's also a tiny rabbit hole to come up through in the same spot.

After that we were pretty much home free! A short jaunt took us to the true summit with an amazing register line up!! (See photoset!!)

Summit beer and a walk to the far west to check out grapevine. What a view!!!

We headed back via the Redwall Rim Route from Berry Butte back to Grandview Trail. Very easy rim route with a few drainages to sneak through and many demon agave to watch out for.

We topped out at 7pm. (This hike can EASILY be done in 3-4 hours fyi. We just stopped to explore every side drainage and Possible route to other buttes in the area.
Plus...a full day in the canyon is pure bliss.

Writing up full description this week for your enjoyment ;)
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Vishnu Creek
Starting from Grandview Point, I went down to Horseshoe Mesa and then picked up the trail that drops off the Mesa towards Cottonwood Creek. At Cottonwood, I picked up the Tonto Trail and headed west. Roughly halfway between Cottonwood and Grapevine Creeks is a mega-cairn marking the start of the lower Old Grandview Trail. Took the well-carined and easy to follow OGV Trail down to a small beach along the Colorado River. Aired-up my boat, changed into my wetsuit and headed down river about 1/3 mile to Vishnu Creek. The mouth of Vishnu is behind a large pink granite outcropping and requires a difficult maneuver through a strong eddy to reach. For that reason, I aimed for the beach just before the outcropping. Once on the beach, I was able to get into Vishnu Creek by hiking up and over the pink granite.

The River in this section is relatively smooth but there's a strong channel of current (I don't know what it's called, all my maritime knowledge comes from watching reruns of The Love Boat and Gilligan's Island) that runs near the middle. Along the edges, the water swirls around and actually seems to move backwards. I tried to stay out of the channel and worked the sides so I wouldn't get sucked down into Grapevine rapids. Fighting the reverse current was a bit of work but gave me hope for tomorrow's plan.

My walk up Vishnu Creek started off almost immediately by going through some neat narrow sections with plenty of twists and turns. There are several 4-8' pour-overs that have to be climbed or bypassed but all were fairly simple. The first one was the hardest. It's about 6' and there aren't many good hand holds. I threw my pack up and wedged it between the boulders and used the pack to pull myself up. There was no water flowing in the creek and just a few small pools so I didn't have to get wet. The last dry fall is about 25' tall but has a bypass route on creek-right. After the narrows the canyon opens up and you can see Woton's Throne and Vishnu Temple up ahead. It was about 3pm so I decided to turn around here. On the way back I ran into a group of 3 guys who were doing a similar route to mine. They started from Cottonwood Creek and packrafted from there.

Headed back to the river and found a nice campsite right on the end of the pink granite outcrop. Spent a long night (about 12 hours) waiting for morning. I thought some river runners would set up camp across the way at Grapevine Beach as I heard it's a popular spot but I saw no one on the river.

Part of my original plan was on day 2 I would cross back to Grapevine Beach (not actually at Grapevine Creek but up river) directly across from Vishnu and get back to the Tonto Trail via Grapevine Creek. According to Todd Martin's Canyoneering book, one cannot hike up Grapevine from its mouth due to a large pour-over. I would have to climb up the Vishnu Schist above GV Beach and then drop down into GV Creek. He makes this route sound difficult and dangerous so I decided I would try to paddle up river and exit out Old Grandview.

Woke up early and was back to the landing beach by 6am. I saw the other group's not-well-hidden packrafting gear and noticed they all had Sevylor Trailboats. I have this same boat but it is really tiny so I opted to take a larger but almost twice as heavy 2-person boat until I get comfortable enough to use the TB. I also noticed they didn't have any life jackets or wetsuits!

Paddling up river wasn't too bad as long as I stayed at the edge but there was a strong wind coming down canyon that I had to fight. After quite a bit of hard paddling, I made it up to where I was directly across from OGV Beach and tried to make a bee line across. As soon as I got to the current channel I got sucked in and shot back down canyon about 100 yards. So I fought my way to the edge and began working back up. This time I went well above OGV Beach so I could move diagonally to it. Success!

I had a pretty uneventful hike out to Grandview Point. Along the way I ran into Dennis Foster http://www.kaibabjournal.com/Grand_Cany ... n_home.htm. Most of the hikers I passed were interested in why I had paddles sticking out of my pack. Some knew right away what I was doing. If you're going to do any packrafting from a busy trail, plan to answer a lot of questions!

(my uploaded route needed quite a bit of redrawing since the original was a complete mess. It may not be accurate and doesn't include everything)

7 liters total.
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Grandview to New Hance
Kidnapped my buddy Taylor to go on this trip with me, he'd never camped at the river before.

I prefer hiking down Grandview and I remember New Hance was SUPER easy hiking down, knew this trip would be cake!!

We left at 7am due to our ride to Grandview sleeping in, oops.got to the TH round 730,
The hike down GV was cake, made it to Horseshoe Mesa in just over an hour. Stopped to visit the cookhouse and explore the mines then we cruised...more like slid, down the Page Spring trail and took a short break at Hance Creek.

It was already hotter than hades down there by 10am when we cruised the Tonto. We had a mile left to the river when I realized it was Noon on the Tonto in June... "Who does that!?"we said in unison at one point.

It was deadly hot but we had hats, tons of water, at least 3L each plus an extra nalgene (topped off a half liter or so at Hance creek) and we both wore moisture wicking long sleeved shirts. We were both down to half a liter of water by the time we reached Hance Rapids, which is, I think, perfect!

Reached the river well before one in the afternoon, we crushed that trail pretty nicely considering the heat! Spent about 12 hours at the river, we'd picked out a great camp spot about 25ft from the river and a little shallow backeddy, about 2ft deep, just enough to wallow in!
We'd planned to actually camp overnight but the Canyon had other plans!!

We settled in, under the stars, on top of s tarp and super lightweight blanket...then the wind picked up (as usual) and the roar of the rapids all but ceased! I went to add a nalgene to our water container corral in the back eddy, the water had dropped a good 9 inches...ugh. No cold water for our hike out...

Wind got stronger. A tree actually snapped in half, huge clouds of sand and leaves flew from every direction. We wrapped bandanas around our faces and hastily turned my tarp into a tent with rocks, shoelaces, paracord and trekking poles. : rambo :

Then we squeezed in tight, back to back careful not to hit the rocks that held the trekking poles upright in the sand.
The wind lulled us to sleep alongside the muted groan that was Hance Rapids and 45 minutes later I awoke...

With a burning hot, icy cold, stinging, tingling, numb sensation on my left wrist...

You've gotta be kidding me was my first thought. I just got stung 3 times by a little bark scorpion. Really??!! Being awakened by a scorpion in your bed at 1am isn't the greatest wakeup call but whatevs .

We shook everything out, packed up, dunked my arm in the river then hiked out, leaving our riverside campsite around 2am.

New Hance is easy going up. The trail, for me, was pretty tame, obvious to follow in the dark. The longest most annoying part (or so it seemed, could've been lack of sleep) was above the Red wall, the Supai layer felt like it took hours!! (In reality we were moving up the trail for 3 1/2 hours) we stopped at the camp above the red wall and slept for a good 45min then continued on. We made it to the TH at sunrise. Perfect timing!

New Hance was an easy hike but I can imagine hiking out in the heat of the sun in June would not be pleasant!

We then thumbed a ride back to the village from the first car that we saw, score! The drive was a nurse and insisted I let her take us to the clinic for my scorpion stings haha

Despite all the random mishaps the trip was great, red canyon is stunning as always and I discovered I'd rather hike DOWN GV and UP NH from now on!
Haven't tried it? Do it! Its worth it.
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Still a usable trickle at the Tonto crossing, probably won't last long. Not much water in the canyon below the Tonto, although earlier in the season and/or after a wetter winter it would likely be flowing more.

The second bypass in particular is long and gnarly, climbing way up above the canyon floor while crossing multiple ridges and loose slopes. The third bypass down to the river is also steep and loose. Fortunately I brought my packraft along and floated down about a half mile to exit on the Old Grandview trail instead of having to return up Cottonwood and reverse the bypasses.

Overall a similar canyon to nearby Hance and Grapevine, but a bit harder to negotiate and somewhat less scenic.


Directions
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To Grandview Trailhead
From Flagstaff head west on I-40 for 30.4 mi to SR-64. Turn right/north and follow SR-64 55 miles to the park. You will receive a map & information at the GC park entrance. From Grand Canyon Village drive about 9.8 miles east on the rim road to Grandview Point. Please use the upper parking lot for overnight parking.

From PHX (I-10 & AZ-51) 242 mi - about 3 hours 50 mins
From TUC (Jct 1-10 & Grant) 347 mi - about 5 hours 20 mins
From FLG (Jct I-17 & I-40) 95.0 mi - about 1 hour 41 mins
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